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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 02:50 PM
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"I'll Chew Your Ass Out"-Ex-Navy Instructor Nance: If SwiftBoated-"You'll See A Spectacle On C-SPAN"
Edited on Wed Nov-07-07 02:57 PM by kpete
Ex-Navy Instructor Promises to Hit Back If Attacked on Torture
By Spencer Ackerman - November 7, 2007

Nance has become newly controversial for writing on the counterinsurgency/counterterrorism blog Small Wars Journal about his experiences teaching waterboarding for the Navy's Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape (SERE) program.

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"God forbid if there's even the slightest hint about my credentials," Nance says over tea in a Washington coffee shop. "You will see a spectacle on C-Span.

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Since he wrote the post, however, a number of comments have appeared on conservative blogs questioning Nance's military service record. (Small Wars Journal had to delete a number of particularly ad hominem comments.) Nance doesn't want to dignify the attacks -- "it's vet-versus-vet warfare," he laments. But he says he heard from a staffer for the Democratic majority on the committee that a Republican aide has been "questioning my credentials" to members in preparation for the hearing. In response, Nance sent the committee "17 years' worth of evaluations" from the Navy and told staffers how to find more material if needed. Emphatic about not getting swiftboated, he warns would-be assailants, "I'll chew your ass out."

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Nance remarks, "Two centuries of knowledge were thrown out the window" when the administration decided after 9/11 that, to use Cofer Black's famous phrase, "the gloves come off." What administration officials mistakenly thought, Nance says, is that "these were actually gloves, not empirical data. Dude, it's not a glove. It's a fact. But they thought it was one more tool in the tool box."

The result, Nance says, is that al-Qaeda now has, essentially, its own SERE school in U.S. detention facilities, as released detainees have given numerous accounts of their interrogations. What's more, he warns that the world is about to see an uptick in the use of torture as "cops in Bogota, everyone" now believes that the U.S. has lent torture its imprimatur -- or, at least, isn't in a credible position to criticize foreign countries' human rights abuses. He says he's testifying in part to help his old comrades in SERE, which he sees as a vital tool for training U.S. troops. "SERE needs to be increased," Nance insists, "but what needs to be stopped is the transfer of SERE techniques to official interrogations."


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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 02:52 PM
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1. Pelosi, Reid, Schumer and the rest of these pantywaisted idiots
could learn and thing or two about how to handle those republicans.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:08 PM
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2. Note to Congress and Repukes:
Do not fuck with a Master Chief. Do not even THINK of fucking with a Master Chief, even for a moment, because you might slip and fuck with a Master Chief, and then he will stomp your asses into a damp pink spot.

And if you fuck with a SEAL Master Chief, you will only succeed in pissing all thge other SEAL's off, too.

I am warning you, you are about to open up a can of Whoopass on yourselves.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:13 PM
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3. oh.. please....please piss him off
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:32 PM
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6. I'll bet Darrell Issa wins the grand prize!
Must see TV.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:14 PM
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4. The 'club' down in Norfolk will be buzzing tonight.
This is going to be good. :rofl:
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:25 PM
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12. Anyone who does that needs a brain check.
I am so happy to see this guy step up. It makes me gleeful that he can shove 17 years' worth of evaluations in the House Judiciary subcommittee members' faces at the mere hint of questioning his credentials. Here's my hearty thanks that he's going to shove some serious reality and common sense into their faces as well.

Thank you, Master Chief.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:05 AM
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15. By other SEALS do you mean Blackwater?
You may be intimidated but I am not. They can bully all they want, and they do, but I will still ask for the TRUTH..
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:57 PM
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16. Blackwater and Navy SEALs...
Are two different things entirely. The SEAL's I have known were honorable people and fine professionals. Not thugs.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:22 PM
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5. One nation under fucking torture!
Torture is us. :banghead: :argh:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 03:34 PM
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7. Kick and Rec.
kpete, put this in your journal so that it stays on the front page for a while.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:25 PM
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8. Republicans have attack dogs that go after ANYBODY that questions other republicans.
The Democrats unfortunately have ATTACK DOGS that go after their own candidates. That's probably why republicans keep getting elected. They don't attack each other they attack the democrats.

Democrats are so wimpy they attack each other.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:21 PM
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11. did you even bother to read the op..
or were you just looking for an opportunity to admonish those who call out clinton on her triangulation?
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:01 AM
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13. some, if not many, dems are part of the problem. nt
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:32 PM
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9. Cofer Black
Nance remarks, "Two centuries of knowledge were thrown out the window" when the administration decided after 9/11 that, to use Cofer Black's famous phrase, "the gloves come off."

Cofer Black is now employed as the head of intel for Blackwater. One more reason to stop their presence in the U.S.

I hope Nance gets a chance to open up a can of whupass on the repukes. I'd love to see him come down on the chickenhawk party flaks.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:00 PM
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10. Larry Craig would love to have his salad tossed
"just what to I have to say to get some?"
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:03 AM
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14. Here's hoping he gets really pissed off.
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