Thanks George, one heating oil fill up of a 250 gallon thank

[yy4me]

and we're out $783.00. We will somehow squeeze by this winter by closing off rooms, wearing heavier clothes and any other conservation procedure that we can think of. What the hell are you doing for Americans who are faced with this oil mess and there is not a damn thing they can do about it but freeze or go into debt. You have done this to us, what are you doing to help us out?

While we rub out hands together to help warm up, I'm sure you and the rest of your cronies are rubbing yours with glee. We freeze, you make even more money.

By the way, for you all, how much is enough, anyway?

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

1. We filled up

This last summer and saved just a bit of money. Now we count our blessings that we bought such a small house. BushCo. certainly takes part of the blame, but I wonder, too, how inefficient it is to heat these McMansions piling up in America's suburbs.

Dick Cheney may think he's rubbing his hands together in glee, but in reality he is more akin to Shakespeare's Lady MacBeth, constantly trying to wipe the indelible bloodstains from her hands.

"Out, out damn'd spot!"

[madokie]

2. Is switching to a wood pellet or corn stove be possible

we have been using wood pellets since the winter of '91 and we burn around two tons of pellets a winter. the pellets are costing 210 bucks a ton this year so for about half of your heating oil cost we heat the whole winter and stay warm too. for instance it is 27 degrees this morning and the house is at the mid 70's. anyways just a thought. Our first pellet stove cost us 1200 bucks and we saved that much in the first two years over what we were spending for propane the years before.

[Marrah_G]

10. I am really wanting to do that but...

The flip side is that with heating, gas and prices so high there is nothing left to save up that 1200.00 with.

Maybe with my tax return.

[madokie]

19. If you can see your way in the future to make the payments or whatever

the savings start the day you first begin using it. our original stove which is going on its 16th winter is still being used by our son. that stove has paid for itself many times over, over our other alternatives, propane or electric. burning cord wood is too much hassle here in ok where it might get down below freezing at night and up to 50 and 60 degrees during the day. With a pellet stove you can turn it off and twenty minutes later it is cool to the touch where as with a wood stove that time interval may be several hours making for a hot/cold enviroment.
Oh and what you said about not having money to save, well thats exactly where the powers to be want us to be, where we barely get by. America can do better with our elected officials and we must, they're killing us right now

[AndyA]

3. For this reason alone, Bush should be impeached.

His threats against Iran are largely responsible for the escalation of oil prices, and this will impact everyone in America.

The President has a duty to the American people to protect us and by spewing out his war mongering desires, he is causing speculators to run up oil prices.

Bush and Cheney MUST BE IMPEACHED.

[RebelOne]

4. If this winter is as mild as last year

then I can get by with just space heaters. I live in a mobile home and one space heater in the living room heats the front of the house. And another small one heats the bedroom nicely. I have a 100-gallon propane tank and can manage to make it last for 6 months if I don't use the furnace. Fortunately, the only gas I use is for cooking.

[KillCapitalism]

11. I hope it's as mild, but I'm not so sure...

it depends on where you live, but the Midwest has already seen some bitterly cold winter weather and it's only the 2nd week in November.:scared:

[madokie]

20. where as here in N.E. OK we had our first frost last night and looks like it'll make 60 today

[izquierdista]

5. Biofuels

Anyone who uses heating oil to heat their house should realize that biodiesel can be directly substituted for it. Not only that, since oil burners do not have performance issues like diesel engines do, you can even use vegetable oils. If you are willing to collect and filter the oil from the local fast food joint, you can stretch that heating oil a long way. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Birthmark]

6. Ignorance on display contained in this post.

How long will that 250 gallons last you?

[yy4me]

9. Why was this ignorant? We get 6 or 7 deliveries per heating

season. This is just the first. Can you explain your comment to me?

[CitizenLeft]

14. hi yy4me...

I don't want to speak for Birthmark, and I could be wrong, but I think the poster meant that THEY were ignorant of how far 250 gallons would take you, not that your post was ignorant, and was asking because they honestly didn't know. I was wondering too, how long will that last you? I was trying to compare that to what I pay for natural gas. Last winter I was paying close to $350 a month (Dec-April), and I don't live in a mansion, just a drafty old house I can (no longer) afford to insulate. One day I'll have that old siding ripped off and modern-up, but it'll be awhile.

[SidDithers]

15. That's the way I read it too...

and I'm also curious about how far 250 gallons goes.

Sid

[Birthmark]

22. Because...

...I was utterly ignorant of how much heating oil it took to make it through a season. You have now enlightened me. Thanks.

So, $4k-5k/annum at this rate? Ouch! Hope it's a nice warm winter for you.

[Wcross]

7. Do you have a south facing wall?

Mother earth news had an article this year on how to construct a passive solar air heater and it would be fairly cheap to construct. You make a box using 2x6 lumber & mount it on a south facing wall. Inside you cover the back of the box (next to the house wall) with reflective mylar. You buy PVC piping 6 or 8" and spray paint them flat black. You put in as many that will fit in your box. You put elbows that join all the pipes and drill one hole going into the house at the top and one at the bottom. (You could also drill a hole for each pipe if desired)
You cover the top of the box with plexiglass. You place a duct fan at the top to draw the warm air into the house. The cold air returns via the hole near the floor.

[formercia]

8. You should be grateful

you don't own a McMansion.

Invading Iraq was about controlling the flow of oil. Saddam was dumping it on the market and keeping prices depressed below what the Saudis and Big Oil wanted.

Next time you hear a pod person complain about the price of oil, remind them of that fact.

[taught_me_patience]

12. Maybe a cold winter will get people off their asses

and drive them to action to get this cabal out of office! I've bought a nice down comforter and some sweaters and am hoping that I don't have to turn the heat on this winter (I live in Los Angeles where it can get still get chilly). I feel for all in cold climates, though.... wow $783 is steep. How long does the tank last?

[hyphenate]

13. I'm on fuel assistance

and we didn't even get a full tank's worth oil because of the price. I was allowed 193 gallons at $2.85--I somehow managed to survive since May without hot water, so things are not looking very good right now. The near 200 gallons might last to Christmas if I'm conservative, but truth is, I'm getting colder faster than ever and I'm in agony when I don't have any heat. The evenings are the worst with pain and the cold, but that's life I guess.

[stirlingsliver]

16. Time To Convert To Another Form Of Heat.

Sooner or later, as oil supplies dwindle from their peak, oil will become more and more expensive.

The time is now to reduce your own carbon footprint.

Convert to a non-oil source for your heat.

If you can't do that, at least reduce your own consumption of oil.

The Earth will thank you.

[stirlingsliver]

17. Time To Convert To Another Form Of Heat.

Sooner or later, as oil supplies dwindle from their peak, oil will become more and more expensive.

The time is now to reduce your own carbon footprint.

Convert to a non-oil source for your heat.

If you can't do that, at least reduce your own consumption of oil.

The Earth will thank you.

[KamaAina]

18. Look on the bright side. Maybe Chavez will step in and help you out.

That's pretty much what we've come to. :eyes:

[KitchenWitch]

21. This is one instance in which I am now thankful to live in Southern California rather than Minnesota

Our last heating season in Minnesota ran us about $600. I shudder to think what it would be now.

Conversely, it is not unusual for us in the summer to have a $250 electrical bill each month. x(

[formercia]

23. The French Revolution began because the common folk

couldn't afford the price of bread and the elites were hoarding flour, thus driving the price up.
Big Oil is regulating the flow of oil for the same reason.


A la Bastille!