This is making the DEMS Look BAD....

[Blackhatjack]

[New Earth]

1. maybe it will teach THEM

to stop playing politics, and be real...

[TheDebbieDee]

18. Exactly! They should have been doing the RIGHT thing!

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

19. Thankfully, I have the capacity to exit the "coo coo's nest" right NOW!

[Blackhatjack]

2. Parlimentary Tactic --refer Resolution to Committee to kill it

[iamthebandfanman]

3. only the dems

who stand in the way


if we were united in this, we'd probably actually get him impeached.

its their own doing if they look bad.
they have nobody to blame but themselves.

[Red Zelda]

4. Exactly!

Because they don't know how to play with fire. I wish they would learn.

[LSparkle]

5. Cheney is at 9% -- how does this make US look bad?

I really, really, really don't get it ... Are we SUCH WIMPS that we can't stand up and speak truth to power?

[MrCoffee]

7. yes.

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Because more repukes voted to continue the debate than did spineless Dems.

:(

Shame on Pelosi and Hoyer.

[Renew Deal]

16. There'd be revolutions in other countries if the 50% STRONGLY oppose dthe president.

That's where he's at in the polls.

[kestrel91316]

33. Gotta keep that all-important powder bone-f---in' dry!!!

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. Hoyer looked pissed off.

:7 GOOD!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

13. That was a plus

Wasn't it? :D


Republicans to Hoyer:

You knew I was a snake when you put me in your pocket.

[Hobarticus]

14. Forced his hand....and now he has to deal with Von Cheney

Who no doubt is coming over right now, from the undisclosed location, to kick his ever-lovin' ass.

[AlCzervik]

8. it's making Hoyer look bad.

[redqueen]

9. And not undeservedly so. (nt)

[OzarkDem]

10. How? I don't see it

The GOP thinks it does, but its not so.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. How many of them voted not to table

how many of us voted not to table?

HOPE that most muricans don't care on how saussage is made

[underpants]

23. Look aside from us news junkies most people will just hear that Cheney almost got impeached

and they will love it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. He got impeached?

far from it, this is the begining of a long process

But I know what you are saying...

Still in my view it is making them look bad

Though the C-SPAN guy now saying this is a presidential campaign stunt

[EFerrari]

12. Maybe they should get a mirror out then. n/t

[Blackhatjack]

17. OK Now Hoyer is in a box (of his own making I might point out)....

Motion to table by Hoyer has now failed.

Motion to refer to committee by Hoyer is being voted on.

However, now you have to wonder if vote totals will be the same as vote on motion to table.

If the motion to commit fails, Hoyer would be put in a position to defend his attempt to keep the Resolution by his own party member from being debated and voted on.

Repubs are obviously going to use this to claim Dems are more interested in politics than getting things done in the House.

Kind of a "put up or shut up" moment for DEMS.

[Neshanic]

22. This is why the republicans are sucessfull. They stick together.

Now they are shoving down our triangulated throats.

[leftchick]

24. Democrats only need point out they interested in ACCOUNTABILITY!

pretty simple.

[Javaman]

20. You mean more than they already do???

a win is a win is a win.

the repukes money spends just as good a the Dems money.

[VP505]

21. I would sure

like to think that it backfires on Hoyer, and then enough rank and file Republics pressure their Reps to go forward with this impeachment. It would probably help the Republics for their reelection if they impeached Cheney and make the Dem's look like shit for not doing it themselves.

[Individualist]

25. It's showing DLC's true colors.

[Blackhatjack]

26. These voting numbers on the Motion to Commit Look Different than Mtn to Table

[backscatter712]

27. And this is a problem for what reason?

Dennis Kucinich, put HR333 out there as an honest attempt to hold our Vice President accountable for all of his illegal actions. Win or lose, he fought the good fight. Sure the impeachment will likely be put down, but in the end, it's respect++ for Kucinich.

Pelosi, Hoyer, and the rest of the establishment tried to sweep this under the rug, despite an enormous groundswell of support from the people. The tabling vote was a selfish power play to maintain the status quo and maintain the corruption, and you know what, it blew up in their faces.

So gnash your teeth all you want about the Democrat's latest humiliation. You know what? They deserve it. They had the chance to do the right thing, and instead they went for petty power plays.

[MuseRider]

29. It is about

fucking time they looked bad for putting their politics ahead of us and our constitution.

I wish I thought it would teach them.

[shadowknows69]

30. And we surely don't need any help with that

I wonder if this is a concerted effort to marginalize DK

[kestrel91316]

34. Of course it is. But it won't work. His brass cojones are now out there

for all to see!

You go, Dennis!!!!!!!

[me b zola]

35. If that is their intention...

I think that this is really going to backfire on them! The public despises cheney.

[WolverineDG]

31. and giving El Mono a blank check for Iraq made them look GOOD?

:shrug:

dg

[Blackhatjack]

32. OH MY.... if the Mtn to Commit to Committee Fails there will be an IMMEDIATE Hr of Debate...

THis is going to force the DEMS hands on the issue of impeachment.

ARE they going to say they think CHeney should NOT be impeached?

ARE they going to argue WITH Repubs that CHENEY should not be impeached?

AND GET THIS --- the time will be evenly split between KUCHINICH and BOTH OTHER PARTIES.

OH MY!