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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:18 PM
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I don't watch much TV lately, but I get a feeling that this writers strike is less about a deadlock,
and more about showing Americans how important these people are to our way of life. That is, this might take a while because they're playing the consumers more than they're playing the employers.

Is that about right?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:25 PM
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1. nope. its about money.
Plain and simple.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:39 PM
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8. I don't think you understand the question.
With most strikes, the tipping point comes with economic compromise. But in this case, the tipping point seems to rely heavily on educating the public how much we count on screenwriters.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:25 PM
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2. For the writers, it's all about fundamental fairness. They know that
even DVD royalties will some day be moot, as will DVDs. It's all gonna be via the internet. That's why they are fighting for internet royalties. And the studios know this.

Like I said yesterday. SHAME ON Nick Counter and his clients for trying to permanently deprive writers of virtually all royalties and then LYING about the fact that the writers offered a compromise.

(I know Nick Counter)
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:28 PM
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3. It's money
Right now writers get residuals when their work is used again and again. Say a TV show they wrote and got paid for gets aired in syndication on the local network at 6 every day. They get a check for that every month, added up of course.

The problem is that they're not getting residuals for anything sold as an online download, or in the new mediums that everything is moving towards, so the writers are asking for a share of the residuals of those new mediums, and the producers are saying no.

So, strike. The writers don't want to be left out in the cold for other people to make reams of cash in new media while they're left with less than before.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:29 PM
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4. They want a chunk of new profit streams (like the internet) where their work
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 01:29 PM by wlucinda
is being sold and they aren't being compensated. Strike seems valid to me....
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:30 PM
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5. no, it's about writers (the creative force) getting their fair share of revenues.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:34 PM
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6. So you're blaming the writers for the producers' greed.
Well, isn't that special.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:41 PM
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11. You sure aren't smart. But you're pretty good at making stuff up.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:09 AM
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13. Links, sweety. Show me what I "made up."
And be prepared to prove it.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:25 PM
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14. You made up the part where I blamed anybody for anything.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:41 PM
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12. And those producers (most of them anyway) would be NOWHERE without the creativity of the writers
Same shit you see in every industry. Greedy, talentless, amoral fucks are lavishly rewarded for taking advantage of the creativity of others.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:36 PM
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7. the nerve of them wanting to get paid for their work!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:39 PM
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9. It's about getting paid for new media
You don't just watch a show on TV when it airs anymore.

You record it and watch it on Tivo
You buy a DVD for the complete season
You watch it at the station web site
You watch snippets on YouTube
You d/l from bit torrent
You watch snippets or whole webisodes from your iPod or phone

Writers deserve to be paid for content that airs over these new media.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:40 PM
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10. From what I saw last night, most of the programs were reruns.
It's seems the production companies and/or networks are behind the writers. It's not like they didn't have programs in the can to be aired, but they chose not to in solidarity. For my part it's all right. I started to catch up on my reading.
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