Whatcha think? Health Teacher told my son's class that if they have sex now, they are virtually

[in_cog_ni_to]

GUARANTEED to get a STD. "STDs are now so prevalent, if you choose to have sex now, you WILL get one of them."

I can understand explaining all the risks. I can understand recommending abstinence (not that they will listen to that), but "You are GUARANTEED to get a STD" is a little much.

He also preaches abstinence only as the best method of BC, but also has talked about Birth Control and Condoms, so I'm cool with that. This bogus guaranteed STD is ridiculous though.

What do you think about this tactic? He's lying to the kids.

[Deep13]

1. As you say, he's lying. n/t

[JuniperLea]

Teachers should never lie, period

This guy needs knocked down a few pegs.

Kids are not stupid. Once they figure him out, they will lose all respect and his teaching will become useless to them.

[book_worm]

2. just out of curiosity what grade is this?

and yes, the teacher shouldn't spread lies to urge kids not to have sex.

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. He's a Freshman and knows the teacher is lying. That's why he told me about it.

We have discussed this issue many times over the years.

[book_worm]

17. perhaps you can write a letter to the teacher and cc it to principal

re: the situation and urge that the teacher be honest and upfront about all aspects of the discussion and also commend the teacher for being open in discussing birth control rather than just abstinence.

[Richard Steele]

3. Dangerous. One dishonest statement undercuts any TRUTHFUL info he gives them.

And it's gonna take the kids about 2 seconds
to realize that statement was BS.

[no_hypocrisy]

4. Your son should have raised his hand and asked if that meant he

should masturbate under those circumstances.

[zbdent]

32. I'd rather he masturbate under the desk ...

and not in front of the class ...

;)

[Ellen Forradalom]

5. 'Scared straight' tactics are inappropriate

for sexuality. (Incidentally, pun not intended.)

[iamthebandfanman]

7. well nothing is definite .. . BUT

statistically there are good odds.

when i was in high school (1996-2000) i was in a school program called "Postponing sexual involvement" and we went to the middle school n warned of the dangers of sex at such a young age......
back then the statistic for genital herpes was 1 in 5 sexually active people had it.
im pretty sure thats changed to 1 in 4 or 1 in 3 in the last few years, but im not entirely sure of that.

either way, pretty crazy!

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. Of course there's a risk when you have sex, but not everyone who has sex gets a STD.

There are ways of protecting oneself against them and if you have sex with a partner who is STD free, how do you get STD from that partner? He's just flat-out lying to the kids.

[iamthebandfanman]

18. i know, hes over reaching

and is off base saying if u do it at all ull get it...

im just saying that statistically chances are high for something like herpes because most people dont even realize they have it. most people dont show symptoms until later in life... like 15-20 years later in life in a lot of cases.

we taught abstinence until you are done with school(for practical reasons, not religious or moral) and protection if you couldnt wait.

[JDPriestly]

40. You can wait to have sex until you are 80

and only ever have it with one partner and still get an STD. The likelihood of getting an STD rises with each partner, of course. Maybe your child misunderstood what was said. It is possible to get an STD with your first partner the first time. Maybe that is what the teacher was trying to explain.

[endarkenment]

8. Wouldn't the truth be a better idea?

The "You are GUARANTEED to get a STD" bullshit encourages kids (and adults too) to not even bother with condoms. It is a sick and failed strategy.

[OneBlueSky]

9. what's next? . . . "You WILL go blind -- and grown hair on you palms"? . .. n/t

.

[emilyg]

28. You won't? Now you tell me.

[rodeodance]

10. time to talk to the principle

[MrCoffee]

12. it's about the principal of the thing, don't you think?

[MissB]

19. *snort*

:rofl:

[Solly Mack]

11. It'll fall off, I tell you! Beware!!!!!

The CDC has stats on the percentage of people acquiring STDs and such would have been the better way to go.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/Stats_Trends/Stats_and_Trends.htm

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. Thank you for that link. I was going there later today to get the statistics for my son.

:hi:

[muriel_volestrangler]

26. Plus HPV statistics

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/hpv-prevalence0307

Roughly 1 in 4 women aged 14-59 have it. The vaccine should start to change that soon, of course.

[Sabriel]

14. We were told that you are "virtually guaranteed" to get pregnant every time

I see not much has changed in the domain of health ed, at least for some instructors.

[JBoy]

24. If the girl's on top, she won't get pregnant.

Or if she jumps up and down afterward.

[Dora]

34. Or if you do it in water. nt

[orleans]

15. i think you must live in dupage county!

(god knows i do!)

[riderinthestorm]

22. Damn, me too.

I was thinking that this probably happened at the local high school (WWSHS).

:hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

23. No, but close! :)

:hi: Kankakee County.

[benddem]

25. Where in DuPage

I lived there as a teen ager. I can't remember being mislead about sex...it was more like No information. But that was the times.

[donsu]

16. STDs are in epidemic mode now

nt

[FredScuttle]

21. It will lead to (gasp) dancing

n/t

[nonconformist]

27. The kids will know that's not true, and that will make them discount all the info he gives them

Even the helpful, truthful info.

Not a smart move.

[Crunchy Frog]

29. I'd yank my kid out of that class.

You're under no obligation to allow him to be force fed a bunch of misinformation about important health issues. Is there somebody else who could provide him with the relevant instruction?

[yellowcanine]

30. This is a fundy talking point. And he is wrong when he says "abstinence only"

is the best form of BC. It is only until one no longer abstains. Then, not so much. Does he also exaggerate the high failure rate of condoms. A latex condom used properly will protect against most STDs as well as being nearly 100% effective against pregnancy. The key word being "properly".

[DS1]

31. She's talking about with her

:)

[PCIntern]

33. I have one question:

How can you raise your hand and masturbate at the same time?

[NMMNG]

35. I guess that's only partially as bad as

telling them condoms and other forms of BC are useless. IOW, yes, he's lying to the kids.


"STDs are now so prevalent, if you choose to have sex now, you WILL get one of them."

So if they wait, say, 10-15 years they won't catch an STD? Only teens catch STDs?

Such fear mongering. :eyes:

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. Yeah. My son was pretty disgusted with the lie.

That's why he shared it with me. It's really pathetic that he resorted to lies in the classroom.

[NMMNG]

38. It's the RW way

Protect the children by lying to them. :eyes:

[LibDemAlways]

36. As a health teacher he has a responsibility to provide

accurate information. I'd take it up with the principal - although it probably won't get you very far.

[JDPriestly]

39. What are the actual statistics on this?

[Didereaux]

41. statistically he may be right....CDC has the numbers somewhere on the site n/t

[taught_me_patience]

42. It's not guaranteed but its likely

However, it doesn't matter when you start having sex or how many people you sleep with. What really matters is that the risk is greatly reduced by wearing condoms. Honestly, most STD aren't much of a big deal and are easily curable.

[bighart]

43. so what do the statistics say is the probability

that someone coming of age now will at some point contract an STD? It would seem to me that the longer one is sexually active in the general dating pool the higher the chance that they will contract an STD.