Has America died under the Bush administration?

[God23]

The neofascist underpinnings allowing torture? The virtual suspension of habeus corpus? The pseudo-acknowledgment of the presidency as a separate and defining branch of government?

Dear god, what has happened to my country?

They out their own spies, they steal elections, they go to war on falsified reasons...

We've been hijacked, people!

[gateley]

1. Simply and accurately stated. Thank you. nt

[MADem]

2. No. It's just having a little nap. It will wake up in 01/09.

[toadzilla]

5. I wish I shared your optimism

[MADem]

19. The older you get, the more optimistic you get. We've been down this road before.

There was a time when people were blacklisted, patriotism was mandated, and people were afraid. Kids were told to cower under their desks every week. The boogeyman back then was a nuke from the scary Russkies.

We survived. We'll survive this Crawford Caligula Cowboy as well.

The clean up is gonna be interesting, certainly...

[Imagevision]

21. Hillary will spend the next 8 years undoing what Neocons installed Bush has changed

New eminent-domain law - Changed Bankruptcy rulings - Health-care Donut Hole con - you can add to the list...

[Throd]

3. No, America is stronger than that pathetic little fuckweed.

It will however, take a lot of work to right things.

[dbt]

4. Yes, She has--and we were all content

to sit and watch NASCAR.

:rofl:

[rateyes]

6. No, but it's on life support, and...

the doctors are on vacation.

[flyarm]

7. the America i knew for 55 years has died..yes indeed!..sadly ..i say..heart broken i say..eom

[defendandprotect]

13. I have to agree in a minor way because so much leadership -- thru which the people speak ---

has been taken from us --- intimidated --- frightened ---

The people cannot speak enmasse --- the words have to come from someone's mouth ---

I'll say again, we have to recognize what a courageous thing Naomi Wolf has done with her book and her speeches!!!

[libnnc]

8. It's pretty bad

But on the bright side, we still have DU...:grouphug:

[jimshoes]

9. I've been saying that for years

People are starting to see the neo-cons for what they really are .... the 21st century incarnation of 20th century fascism.

[jelly]

10. Not ready to pull the lifeline.

Certainly there's cause for concern, but I say let's wait until after the 2008 election to decide whether she's gone for good.

[derby378]

11. * SIGH *

That's why we needed a hardcore Democrat to go after George W. Bush, and hard, in 2004. Now look at the mess that we're left with.

Don't get me wrong. I worked harder for the Kerry campaign than I ever have for any other Presidential candidate. But the man choked when he needed to charge forward, and in the end Karl Rove and those electronic voting machines ate Kerry's lunch.

[ChicagoRonin]

12. No, not yet.

No more than Germany "died" during Hitler's reign
No more than Japan "died" during its fascist takeover

I listen to the voices of my elders, like my Mom, who was born in Japanese-occupied Manchuria and subsequently lived through the Korean War and the corrupt U.S.-backed regimes that ran South Korea for years: These things too shall pass. It's whilst you're in the middle of it that it's difficult to imagine anything better.

[Art_from_Ark]

31. Japan and Germany's reversals did not come from within

and it took years of untold damage and misery before they were set upon a better course.

[bdamomma]

14. this has been planned for a long time by Cheney

that is why his a$$ must be thrown out by impeachment.

[tekisui]

15. It was premeditated murder.--nt

[Cerridwen]

16. Not yet, but I think we're on life support and our insurance has about run out.

Our policy is about to be canceled, the mortgage is due, and the car just rolled over and died. Oh yeah, and the price of Ramen noodles is a little beyond our food budget.

[Greyhound]

17. Duh, dee, dee, dee...

We've been warning you about this for over 20 years! WTF, just slow?

[Quantess]

26. Nice welcome there, greyhound.

Better late than never, I say!

[Greyhound]

40. Sorry, but it's now too late.

The die is cast and our only option is to try to ride it out. I am too old to be patient with the previously brain-dead that have brought us to this precipice.

Now my efforts are to get as far away as possible before the inevitable collapse. These last minute revelations are of no benefit.

[Double T]

18. America is in ICU and on life support.

Only question left is will WE pull the plug?

[The Wielding Truth]

20. She is fighting to survive. She needs our lifeline. Support #333.

:kick: :bounce: Tell everyone you know to contact their Congressperson and tell them you want then to vote no to any tabling of this proposal to impeach Cheney. He must be be made accountable for water-boarding our Democratic America.

[orleans]

22. almost. america has almost died. and it breaks my heart. n/t

[Imagevision]

23. Anyone believe Bush was merely an installed puppet for The New World Order?

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. Hand picked by Cheney. He was exactly what they needed. Someone too stupid

to know what was really going on. Someone who would approve anything the Dark One wanted to do. Someone who could be led by the nose. The Psycho fit the bill perfectly.

[Prophet 451]

33. Hogan, Hall and Nash?

Oh, I see, wrong nWo.

Frankly, no. Because the New World Order does not and in the form usually stated, cannot exist.

[Swamp Rat]

24. America was waterboarded.

We are gasping for air.

[riverdeep]

25. It's teetering on a precipice.

We all think it can't happen here. It's been the comforting balm of every empire.

[Xenotime]

27. Yes. The america that once was is no longer.

Lies, facisim hatred all rule now.

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. Yes and then we have a Democratic Congress with their lips firmly attached to his

ASS helping him every step of the way. They're still funding his illegal invasion, they passed the horrendous FISA Bill, and now they're approving his illegal TORTURE techniques! We are so screwed.

[JFN1]

30. That was the intent

to kill our Constitutional government and replace it with a fascist oligarchy.

[Prophet 451]

32. Yes, but...

America was never a place, it was a shared dream and sometimes, dreams die.

But with enough belief, passion, guts and determination, we can dream a new dream. Out of destruction comes change and out of change, growth. We are currently in the destruction phase and it is heartrending but the wheel turns and nothing lasts forever. Even in it's previous incarnation, the US had big problems and the fact that W was able to do what he has done mostly legally has illustrated those. In the rebuilding that will be necessary as you move forward, those problems can be addressed. Shameful and horrifying at it was, the past gives way to the future.

This round is lost but chin up, stiff upper lip. New round starts tomorrow.

[Swamp Rat]

35. Ding! Ding!

In this corner of the ring, Dennis Kucinich... :patriot:

[Prophet 451]

38. We're all rooting for you, Kooch...

Thank the Lord that someone has the balls to stand against this nightmare.

[leftofthedial]

34. yup

over there behind that rock

[Quantess]

37. A rock? What rock?

Iraq?

[leftofthedial]

39. well, basically oligarchy

I guess

[Az]

36. The disease started in the Nixon administration

But we certainly seem to have entered the terminal phase within the Bush years.