He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster.

[ulysses]

And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.

- Friedrich Nietzsche

Odd, perhaps, for a professed liberal to quote a crazed misogynist like Nietzsche, yet this quip seems appropriate for both the Democratic Party and for the nation in a time of moral stupidity crisis regarding torture.

[cali]

1. it certainly does. n/t

[ulysses]

4. hadn't expected to get a positive comment on this from you,

but thanks.

[cali]

5. sure

but might I suggest that you don't understand where I'm coming from?

[ulysses]

6. that's certainly possible.

I'm all ears, though.

[Blashyrkh]

2. Why quote someone you have no respect for?

[ulysses]

3. the DLC has taught me well to take the good where I find it.

:silly: