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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:20 PM
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So only 2 Democrats out of 10 are voting for an attorney general who was expected to sail through?
I'd say that shows Democrats are doing their jobs as a whole since this nominee was expected to sail through by both parties
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:21 PM
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1. Doesn't matter if it's 2 or 10. The result will be the same.
NO Democrats should be voting in his favor.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:23 PM
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2. Agree none should, but that's not too bad of a tally nt
nt
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:27 PM
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5. Not good enough.
The Republicans keep their members in line; not the Dems. Every single time an important vote comes up, just enough of "our" side (if you want to call it that) manage to fold like cheap umbrellas in a windstorm to ensure the Repubs get their way. Every single goddamn time, and I'm sick of it.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:34 PM
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10. You've heard the song, "pubs are a party, dems a coalition."--nt
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:26 PM
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3. I can't explain Feinstein's vote, but Schumer
Kind of got himself into a corner when, prior to the nomination, he went on record talking about Mukasey as a fine choice blah blah blah.

If he changes his stance now, regardless of the quite legitimate reasons that have now come to light, he'll be attacked as a flipflopper who caved to his fellow Dems in an effort to thwart Bush. Hell, that's as noble a cause as you can name IMO, but perhaps Schumer fears being so labeled.

Sorry, Chuck; before you sang his praises, you should have asked him about that pesky waterboarding stuff...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:48 PM
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12. No, actually schumer is voting for mukasey so he can say they were hoodwinked again
just like he said about roberts and alito, when he said they were “too easily impressed with the charm of Roberts and the erudition of Alito,”

Hey Chucky, if you have already used that for the Supreme Court, what is the excuse you are going to use about mukasey?

Here are some more great quotes from the mouth of schumer:

"schumer" said his “greatest regret” in the last Congress was not doing more to scuttle Alito. “Alito shouldn’t have been confirmed,” Schumer said. “I should have done a better job. My colleagues said we didn’t have the votes, but I think we should have twisted more arms and done more.” . . . Schumer said there were four lessons to be learned from Alito and Roberts: Confirmation hearings are meaningless, a nominee’s record should be weighed more heavily than rhetoric, “ideology matters” and “take the president at his word.” “When a president says he wants to nominate justices in the mold of Scalia and Thomas,” Schumer said, “believe him.”
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:55 PM
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16. Ugh. That really stinks.
Sometimes he seems so on-target, and other times...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:57 PM
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17. sorry, didn't mean to be so cynical. Even with that, we still have to vote Democratic in 2008
ironically because of the Supreme Court.

There is no question what the republicans will do, and there is still some hope with the democrats



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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 01:03 AM
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19. Absolutely!
You could cut me into hundreds of pieces and scatter me across the countryside, and I'd still pull the blue lever.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:26 PM
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4. This is a joke, right? You're satirizing, right?
Those two Democrats are going to guarantee that the US Senate confirms, and states its approval of, an Attorney General who explicitly avoids stating that waterboarding is torture, and that the President can break laws he finds inconvenient to his job. Where is the success here?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:27 PM
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6. If Democrats vote for him then they are accpeting waterboarding
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:54 PM
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14. Absolutely, and when those that voted for the IWR, and patriot act they knew exactly what it meant
Edited on Sat Nov-03-07 11:55 PM by still_one
No, Virginia, there isn't a Santa Claus, they lied to you about that also


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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 06:37 PM
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20. I ofter wonder about their actions
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:27 PM
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7. That's like saying losing by one run isn't as bad as losing by ten runs.
Losing sucks, I don't care what the final tally is. :shrug:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:30 PM
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8. Democrats are "doing their jobs"?
By allowing an unacceptable nominee to get out of a committee they control? Yeah, heck of a job.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:32 PM
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9. You're joking
Right?

That's like saying Gore only lost the 2000 election by 537 votes. Great. But we still got saddled with Bush**.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:40 PM
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11. I'd say you are wrong
There will be a lot more than 2 Democrats voting for him when the full Senate votes.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:49 PM
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13. And, I'd say those 2 should be removed from office for aiding and abetting war criminals.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 11:54 PM
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15. Or put another way....
...only 2 out of 10 Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee don't have a problem with trusting another Bush AG not to torture people. The fact that they also happen to be 2 pricks I'm sure is purely coincidental.

Now there's a record we can all be proud of....

:sarcasm: - Posted for the sarcastically impaired

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 01:02 AM
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18. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke /nt
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