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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:22 PM
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One Year, And One Day... And I Hope I Can Make It Without Going Completely Insane
The 2008 General Elections will be on Nov. 4, 2008.

One year, and one day.

And while I had planned to enjoy the convulsions of the Republican Party, it is tempered by the nauseous wretch that my bile duct produces from watching the frustrating floundering about of my own hapless political party.

Found this cartoon. Don't know if it applies to me, to us, or to what the voters might be thinking of the Democrats these days.



I am so fucking tired of voting against something or someone. And there was a time when I was proud to state that I was a Democrat.

Nowadays, I just tell people I'm a Liberal\Progressive and leave it at that.

:shrug:
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:24 PM
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1. I wish I could be as confident as you are that this Bunch will actually...
leave the WH in Jan 09... My deepest fears are something similar to what is going on in Pakistan today!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:43 PM
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4. I don't think that will happen
but whoever is on the Republican ticket will be pretty much clones of the existing cabal. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss - if they win.

If the Democrats don't grow some balls I would predict a very low turnout which would be good for the Republicans. One thing they seem to be very good at doing is getting their base out to vote.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:21 PM
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7. The NSPD 51 /HSPD 20 by McFuckwad makes me wonder the same thing
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6377

Bush Executive Order: Criminalizing the Antiwar Movement

by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, July 20, 2007

The Executive Order entitled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" provides the President with the authority to confiscate the assets of whoever opposes the US led war.

A presidential Executive Order issued on July 17th, repeals with the stroke of a pen the right to dissent and to oppose the Pentagon's military agenda in Iraq.

The Executive Order entitled "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" provides the President with the authority to confiscate the assets of "certain persons" who oppose the US led war in Iraq:

"I have issued an Executive Order blocking property of persons determined to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people."

In substance, under this executive order, opposing the war becomes an illegal act.

The Executive Order criminalizes the antiwar movement. It is intended to "blocking property" of US citizens and organizations actively involved in the peace movement. It allows the Department of Defense to interfere in financial affairs and instruct the Treasury to "block the property" and/or confiscate/ freeze the assets of "Certain Persons" involved in antiwar activities. It targets those "Certain Persons" in America, including civil society organizatioins, who oppose the Bush Administration's "peace and stability" program in Iraq, characterized, in plain English, by an illegal occupation and the continued killing of innocent civilians.

<snip>
In May 2007, Bush issued a major presidential National Security Directive (National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51/HSPD 20), which would suspend constitutional government and instate broad dictatorial powers under martial law in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency" (e.g. Second 9/11 terrorist attack).

On July 11, 2007 the CIA published its "National Intelligence Estimate" which pointed to an imminent Al Qaeda attack on America, a second 9/11 which, according to the terms of NSPD 51, would immediately be followed by the suspension of constitutional government and the instatement of martial law under the authority of the president and the vice-president. (For further details, see Michel Chossudovsky, Bush Directive for a "Catastrophic Emergency" in America: Building a Justification for Waging War on Iran? June 2007)

NSPD 51 grants unprecedented powers to the Presidency and the Department of Homeland Security, overriding the foundations of Constitutional government. It allows the sitting president to declare a “national emergency” without Congressional approval. The implementation of NSPD 51 would lead to the de facto closing down of the Legislature and the militarization of justice and law enforcement.


More at article link, including the txt of NSPD 51
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:31 PM
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2. I think in terms of how many more will die and how many more will be tortured
and how much more he will destroy the Constitution instead of days.



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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:52 PM
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5.  Count me in on that one
I also do fear these freaks have no intention of leaving in 2009 , it took them to long to get to where they are in ruining EVERYTHING to the point where there may never be a return to democracy but instead become a police state with a King dictator .

Most of the great minds are dying of old age and look what we have left . I just never expected the american people to do so stupid or these fake religious groups to grow into the swill they have become .

The only person in my life I can talk to about my feelings is my wife , we are on the same page but family and friends have fallen by the wayside . So I come here to seek like minded people .

I always think it can't get worse but then it does over and over again .

I also hate this idea of a global world ideology , it strips all cultures and makes one huge abomination of stench . We saw this happen in the US and it's spreading all over the globe , it's difficult to find hope in all of this .
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 01:33 PM
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3. yeah, count me in on that sentiment
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 02:08 PM
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6. What will the world be like in Nov 08+1. Will there be any open gas pumps? n/t
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:02 PM
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8. IMHO, the early campaign
was simply a distraction from *. It took all things politic in the public's mind off of *. While turning the public off because of its length.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 09:08 PM
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9. The Public Is Definitely Getting Turned Off !!!
:shrug:
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:59 AM
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10. When fatigue sets in
steeple become hypnotic and easily lead.
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