The beach erosion in Florida is stunning.

[trumad]

Many more pics:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-erosion-pg,0,5528813.photogallery?coll=sofla_tab01_layout

[babylonsister]

1. That is unreal! Talk about waterfront property! nt

[donsu]

2. good grief! I wondered how the shoreline fared during the night

thanks for posting this

do you think some of those large bldgs. will be condemned?

[Warpy]

3. It's not the first time, either

Miami Beach had a huge rebuilding project some years ago because the sand had been reduced to a thin strip. A brand new beach was dredged up and deposited in front of all those high rise hotels and condos and the area was reborn just in time for the South Beach craziness.

If nature had its way, those heaps of masonry would be reachable only by boat, their lower two floors submerged.

That ugly wall of high rises stretches nearly the full length of the east coast of Florida, broken only by the expansive mansions of the super rich.

Undoubtedly, the taxpayer will again foot the bill for dredging and redeposition to buy the area a few more years of glory.

[babylonsister]

6. I wonder who will get more attention in rebuilding first; the Everglades

are SOL:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2195025&mesg_id=2195025

[nashville_brook]

25. we should hope the Everglades b/c that affects everyone, and not just the developers

and condo owners.

beachside owners are screwed no matter what. the big finger that comes off of Florida at Cape Canaveral (Brevard Co, where i grew up) is a barrier island. they don't call them that fer nothin'. 20 years ago, there was only 6 to 10 feet left of dune in front of many of the condos in Satellite Beach and yet, they still couldn't build them fast enough (in the last boom, at least). when they're gone, they need to stay gone. i know that's offensive to some -- but oceanfront owners aren't like Ninth Ward residents. they have money and they have choices.

moreover, it's not the owners who are at fault -- it's the complete lack of regulation of the developers. when i was a child, tall buildings were forbidden on the oceanfront. it was a regulation that made sense in an area where you can stand on a stack of books and see the ocean on one side and the Indian/Banana Rivers on the other. that regulation got chipped away just as the doomed condos are now being chipped away.

[Uncle Joe]

4. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the photos, trumad.

[tuckessee]

5. Good time to look for relics. n/t

[madrchsod]

7. they are running out of sand to rebuild the beaches

sand has become a very scarce commodity because there is`t a lot left in florida and barging it in from who knows where would cost hundreds of millions.

[glowing]

8. That's what you get for building on sandbars... they are always

moving. And due to the hurricanes the erosion is even worse... Sandbars are not to be built on. These properties are why the rest of us in Florida cannot afford our insurance. Million dollar assholes who want to ruin a natural beach front oasis.

[lonestarnot]

9. Damn.

[piedmont]

10. It's foolish to build so close to a beach. I hope their insurance premiums go through the roof.

[Sancho]

21. Believe me...they won't charge the beachfront folks higher insurance...

but those of us who live two miles inland have our rates so high that the insurance is more than the mortgage payment!

[piedmont]

22. That sucks.

Building on the beach really ought to be banned.

[malaise]

11. Thre was a man on the Weather Channel

showing Jim where his million dollar beach front property line was four years ago - he had a long pole there. It's now about 50 yards into the sea and barely visble. All those coast front properties will soon be in the sea. Wait for the beach front hotels in the Caribbean - they too will be gobbled up.

Add.

[lovuian]

12. Yep Miami is in Big trouble as we speak

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nkUuE4f1GIw

Wanted tons of sand for beaches

there isn't enough

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nOTxoDRmdw4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=O7Px6xFRsX4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-3jwnasMc-M

Global Warming is happening NOW

[rodeodance]

30. plenty of sand at bottom of oceans

[sandnsea]

32. Remember the ground glass beach stories

No, there isn't plenty of sand at the bottom of the ocean. They've dredged so much up in that area that they're running out. I have no idea how much that contributes to increased damage from the hurricanes. They're mixing ground glass in with the sand to make the beaches.

[Didereaux]

13. Quit worrying! There's FEMA $$$ on the way...no SCHIP, but beaches we'll have n/t

[seasat]

14. I wish the rich idiots would stop building on barrier islands.

They move! It's part of the natural geology of coasts. Unfortunately, those of us that are smart enough to live inland down here usually are forced to pick up the tab to protect their expensive properties.

[shireen]

15. that's what happens to idiots who build on barrier islands

they should have known better. Barrier islands are dynamic living slivers of land.

I don't have anything against ocean-front property. I'd love to be an idiot and live on the ocean; I'd build a modest structure with the expectation that it will someday be taken down by erosion or a hurricane. There are even some places, like Delaware Bay beaches in Delaware (not the New Jersey side) and northern Assateague Island, where beach sand replenishment to counteract erosion is actually good for wildlife. But those projects are small in scale compared to what would be needed in Florida.

Builders of large extravagant complexes, as seen in those photos, are a bunch of scammers. Of course they know those buildings have a limited lifetime. They use the beauty of the ocean as bait for ignorant buyers who pay outrageous prices for the privilege of watching the sun rise from their bedroom windows.

[malaise]

16. I can see the day when buildings like this one

tumble into the sea. If Noel was a Cat5, it might have been this week.

[rodeodance]

17. wow

[seafan]

18. The beach erosion in Forida from Tropical Storm/Hurricane Noel is an ominous sign of the future.

Heavy beach erosion threatens the Seawinds condominium on Singer Island. (Sun-Sentinel/Scott Fisher / October 30, 2007)



Heavy beach erosion threatens several condominiums on Singer Island. This is a view from the condo looking south. (Sun-Sentinel/Scott Fisher / October 30, 2007)



A Weather Channel crew prepares to go live from beneath the wooden stairway behind the Seawinds Condominium as heavy surf and beach erosion cause major damage on Singer Island. (Sun-Sentinel/Scott Fisher / October 31, 2007)



Leanne Welch, Environmental Program Supervisor for Palm Beach County, checks on beach erosion at Jupiter Beach Park in Jupiter. (Sun-Sentinel/Scott Fisher / November 1, 2007)

[earth mom]

19. Serves em right for building such monstrosities so close to the waters edge. nt

[trumad]

23. Ahhh the old serves em right crowd.

[earth mom]

24. I don't wish harm on anyone. But those monstrosities don't belong there.

The greedy bastards that built them aren't hurting are they? Meanwhile the suckers-er-the tenants are gonna be screwed soon.


But guess that's okay with you. :eyes:

[trumad]

28. The tenants,,,,, LOL

they own the condos...

[earth mom]

29. And your point is?

:eyes:

You're just spoiling for a fight with me aren't you? Whatever.

[trumad]

33. What state do you live in?

[earth mom]

36. Why?

[trumad]

39. why not?

I live in Florida...

[earth mom]

41. I live in the Northwest. Now answer my question: Why does it matter where I live? nt.

[karlrschneider]

42. I guess you & I aren't allowed to have opinions if we don't live there.

According to some fucking morons, anyway.

[earth mom]

45. So true. Like why post a thread like this if you don't want people to reply with brutal honesty?

The truth is is that those condos are too close to the beach.


Frankly, I don't think anyone should be allowed to build on the coastline or "own" the coast. The coast should be for all to experience and enjoy and for the natural beauty to be preserved.

[trumad]

48. OK I give...

I'll tell you when you tell me what state.

[earth mom]

53. I don't live on the coast if that's what you're wanting to know.

But as I said in post #45, I don't believe that people should be allowed to "own" any part of the coast line. Most of the Oregon coastline is not built on for this very reason-that the coast is for everyone and should be preserved-and I totally support that.

[trumad]

56. You're comparing the Oregon coast to Florida's?

Ummm--- when was the last time you jumped in the water in Oregon?

[earth mom]

61. I grew up in Southern California. We all saw what overbuilding did in the wild fires last week.

You can't have it both ways. You can't overbuild and push things to the limit and then be surprised when Mother Nature bites back.

It was wrong in the first place and now some will pay the price for other peoples greed. Which, for lack of a better word, sucks.

[Bluebear]

35. "Serves em right?" - that is NOT applying the Golden Rule :)

[earth mom]

37. Excuse me but I clarified my post if you read the thread further.

Got an agenda, eh? Why am I not surprised?

[Bluebear]

38. Oooooooh what is my "agenda" that you're not surprised about??

[earth mom]

43. I've been here long enough to know when I'm being attacked for no reason. nt

[Bluebear]

44. Yes, poor you.

:eyes:

[earth mom]

46. Get a life. nt

[Bluebear]

47. Goodness, what is your major malfunction? Everyone "attacking" you with an agenda?

:eyes:

[earth mom]

50. What was your point in the first place? Seriously.

You didn't add to the discussion on the thread at all, but instead made a snide remark about my user name. Like WTF is your point?!

Don't you have something better to do or to say? Or did you attack me because you have an agenda against me personally?

Sounds like an agenda to me.

[Bluebear]

51. I have no idea who the hell you are even are. Are you paraniod?

And the original point was, telling people who are suffering something unpleasant "serves em right" is cold. Adios.

[earth mom]

54. FYI- I clarified my post a few minutes later, because I realized that I didn't say what I meant.

So shoot me. No better yet call me names now. My so holier than thou aren't we?

I guess you've never misspoken once here on DU.

:eyes:

[Bluebear]

55. WELL OK I didn't read that!!! So shoot me!

Now calm the hell down :hug:

[bahrbearian]

20. Brings "I've got some swamp land in Florida, I will sell you " to a new Meaning.

[pansypoo53219]

26. ANY

suggestions of planting some mangroves or something?

[donsu]

27. good heavens, then it wouldn't be a beach apt. with a beach view

nt

[XemaSab]

31. God forbid

the residents should have to look at something as distasteful as mangrove, sea grape, gumbo limbo, et al.

That stuff looks like it might have animals living in it. :P

[onethatcares]

34. ok, you riff raff,

start giving us your tax dollars to rebuild the beaches you aren't allowed to walk on. That's what is going to happen, the average citizen will not be allowed on singer island or near those condos in jupiter, but their tax money certainly will be. Idiots building on sand, don't they ever read the bible?

[karlrschneider]

40. Awwwwwww. Where's my violin when I need it? Oh, here

:nopity:
:nopity:

[Mojorabbit]

49. My dream home

is on Bethune Beach. Around ten years ago a home in this private area was 350,000. Last I looked an empty lot was over a million and most of the houses were up for sale. I don't know if they are not able to get insurance or if the taxes went sky high.

[Atman]

52. Sandbars move. That's what "barrier islands" are there for, to protect the coast...

...not to BE the coast. I grew up on a barrier island, Cocoa Beach, FL. You could practically throw a rock from the Atlantic to the lagoon across A-1-A. I'm not going to be so crass as to say anyone "deserves" this, but damn, it you choose to build your home on a movable hunk of sand just a few feet above sea level, well...you have to expect that shit like this will happen. Like building a home directly on an earthquake fault or in an avalache zone...sooner or later it's going to catch up with you.

.

[trumad]

58. It is and I agree,,,

Sort of like living in the mountains in San Diego---or New Orleans...or the coastal towns of Texas.... or the flood plains of the mid-west.... etc...etc...etc....

I just get awful sick of people saying that the homeowners deserve it...not to say that you did.

[opihimoimoi]

57. Sandbag Brigade forming in 4 weeks...sign up asap...$20 per hour

[Catherine Vincent]

59. Destin, Fort Walton and Panama City Beach are okay for now

(these pics were taken in August 2007 and not January 2006)

But it was disheartening to see all the hotels, condos up along the beach there. Especially Panama City Beach.

[zonkers]

60. No problem. Once abandoned, alll those condos will serve nicely as the new breakwater/bulkhead.

Irresponsible, criminal city planning is the cause of this.