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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:46 PM
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Tim Russert Faces Debate Backlash
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/02/tim-russert-faces-debate-_n_70819.html

Tim Russert Faces Debate Backlash
Jason Linkins
November 2, 2007 12:25 PM



Be it legitimate grievance or sour grapes, NBC's Tim Russert has been taking shots in the wake of Tuesday's debate. In one searing indictment that ignited the blogosphere, The American Prospect's Paul Waldman called on Russert to "Stop the Inanity," throwing rhetorical grenades like:

I have a fantasy that...a candidate will say, "You know what, Tim, I'm not going to answer that question. This is serious business. And you, sir, are a disgrace. You have in front of you a group of accomplished, talented leaders, one of whom will in all likelihood be the next president of the United States. You can ask them whatever you want. And you choose to engage in this ridiculous gotcha game, thinking up inane questions you hope will trick us into saying something controversial or stupid. Your fondest hope is that the answer to your question will destroy someone's campaign. You're not a journalist, you're the worst kind of hack, someone whose efforts not only don't contribute to a better informed electorate, they make everyone dumber. So no, I'm not going to stand here and try to come up with the most politically safe Bible verse to cite. Is that the best you can do?"


The antipathy, however, was hardly confined to the blogosphere. The Hill reported today on a Clinton campaign conference call that began with a discussion of marshalling the funds necessary to properly "deflect" the attacks of "rivals," but soon turned to a discussion of Russert himself. Senior strategist Mark Penn sharply criticized Russert's questioning ("The other candidates were asked questions like, 'Is there life in outer space?'") while one called was moved to suggest that Russert "should be shot," later "adding that she shouldn't say that on a conference call."

The vein of grief between Hillary Clinton and Russert runs deep. For the essential background, see Greg Sargent's entry on the Horses Mouth, which details Russert's "ultimate 'gotcha' moment" during her 2000 debate with GOP Senatorial contender Rick Lazio, where the newsman brought up the Lewinsky affair. As Sargent relates:

The Hillary camp seethed afterwards about Russert's ambush, he took a pounding for it from the Columbia Journalism Review, and Bill even took a shot at Russert at a fundraiser, saying that the debate had been "2-on-1 half the time," meaning that Russert and Lazio had ganged up on Hillary. In other words, Russert played the "gotcha" game with Billary, the Hillary camp hit back at Russert, and then Hillary's advisers moved to spin his gotcha into a positive by arguing that the men had piled on victimized Hillary and that she'd valiantly fought back. Exactly what happened this time.


And, do note, the strategy outward ("the men had piled on victimized Hillary and that she'd valiantly fought back") is exactly the same now, as well.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:48 PM
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1. I wrote to him right after the debate and hope all of you did also
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:57 PM
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6. Was Russert the one that pulled the "bible quote" question
up a few weeks ago? I really popped on that one and wrote some network a truly nasty note. I think it was Russy. Didn't see this week's edition of 'make the Dems look like idiots."
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:13 PM
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14. Yep!
Can't begin to express how pissed I was with that. How much more irrelevant can you get? Who's your favorite movie star? Favorite comic book? Flavor of ice cream? Color? Ecchh!

--IMM
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:53 PM
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2. HRC may not be my number one, but by God I'll fight to the end for
her because she's one of "ours." That said, Timmy should not be doing anymore debates. I even wandered over to FReeperland and they were disgusted with him also. That's very telling.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:54 PM
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3. You're not a journalist, you're the worst kind of hack
Fucking BRILLIANT, and right on the MONEY!

It's not just Clinton, either. Look at what he did to Kucinich. The poor bastard is lucky to get three questions in ninety minutes, and they ask him "WOO WOOO...have YOU seen a UFO? WOOO WOOO!!!" Nothing about any of his stances that set him apart from the rest.

The MSM DO make people dumber. And fucking Timmy the Potatohead is the GOP Leader of the Pack.
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133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:10 PM
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13. Mr. Pototoe Head.....
I wonder if he can spell as well as that pigeon
Quail
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:55 PM
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4. They never read the emails.
Our problem is there are too many right wing poopoganda spreaders and not enough truth tellers from the liberal side.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:57 PM
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5. I'm sorry, but the questioning was not out of line.
Some of the questions at the end were silly, I suppose to try to lighten the moment or whatever. But overall, Hillary got asked the questions that were hardest because she's the front runner. This complaining and whining from the Clinton camp is unseemly. Get over it. If you can't face down and outmaneuver Russert, how can you face down and outmaneuver Putin?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:59 PM
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8. I'm sorry...
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 03:00 PM by stillcool47
but this has nothing to do with 'facing-down' a gin-soaked popinjay like Tim Russert. This is a presidential debate, and the moderator has no business going after any candidate. This was not a Fox News gab-fest..it was a frigging Democratic Presidential Debate.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:58 PM
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7. who has russert slept with to get his job?!?!
that fat ass has no ability whatsoever...dumb piece of crap!
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:01 PM
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9. To add to all of the above , he is an ugly m -f-er!!!!!
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:05 PM
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11. They say, "chastity is its own punishment" but the corollary would be
anybody who wanted to sleep with Russert would have to be one hell of a masochistic, self-loathing S.O.B. :puke:
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:04 PM
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10. Truly, he has no talent..
His approach is to have his staff dig up all sorts of contradictions in a candidate's statements over the years and then he or his staff writes gotcha questions, with absolutely no followup questions on MTP.

Anyone with a good research staff can do this. He doesn't engage in actual interviews or conversations with his guests. It's simply one gotcha question after another.

No wonder Cheney's favorite interview is Russert on MTP.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:06 PM
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12. his schtick is so old and tiresome. "In 1998 you said this, now you said this, which is it?"
BOOOORRRRIIIINNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:20 PM
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16. I'd love it if someone said to him
"In 1988 you weighed a deuce and thirty, now you weigh a deuce and seventy....so, back then you were a fatass, and now you're a major bloviated fatass. So, which is it? Fatass, or major bloviated fatass? Come on, answer, gotcha!! One or the other!!!!"
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:30 PM
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17. or simply say to him that his gotcha journalism tactics are not helpful to the american discourse
at all. and actually say the words "gotcha journalism". I believe he would actually soil his briefs if one of these candidates sat that to him. The thing is, they're almost almost all lawyers and probably pretty darn good ones. Can't believe none of them have done some lawyering on him.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:40 AM
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20. Well MADem, on the other hand..
You can only stack SHIT so High :)

Two more points on Timmy's I.Q. And he'd be a Plankton...
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:18 PM
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15. he's not the only one who asks the gotcha questions
and she's been able to outmaneuver almost every other time she's been challenged. she faltered. she's human. she's been doing very, very well up until this debate. but she'll get over it. let's move on.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:31 PM
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18. K&R n/t
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:25 AM
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19. K&R
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 07:19 AM
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21. Really.
In 30 seconds or less explain your position on illegal immigration, also known as "Do you support Gov. Spitzer's bill?"

Sheesh.
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