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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 04:54 PM Original message |
In winning protest case, father vows to put church out of business (Phelps) |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. I've got no problem with this |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It's one thing to say they have to keep half-a-mile from the grave... |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I don't know what this specific ruling says |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Regarding the latter example, |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ol' Fred and his litter... |
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GCP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. I only hope the ACLU doesn't get involved with this |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Uh, unlike some, they do distinguish between government and private citizens. |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Exactly |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Not likely. The don't usually get involved in defamation cases or malicious infliction of distress |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. We're going to come to regret this decision. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. This is NOT a precedent |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Talk to any lawyer, |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I don't know one lawyer |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. juries determine questions of fact. the appeals courts determine the law |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. If and only if it is appealed |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Kindly, settle down. The Constitution protected hating the government, not eachother. |
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PetrusMonsFormicarum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Harassment is not free speech |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Look, I hate Phelps just as much as the next person around here |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It's not a "slippery slope". HATE speech against private citizens is WAY DIFFERENT FROM,... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. So, I guess I can't go out and protest against a private citizen then? |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Just because we don't agree that it's a free speech issue |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Is that "we" in the royal sense, or do you think that you're speaking for all of DU? |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. We, as in those of us who are disagreeing with you |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. No. YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO HARASS ME! For that, I am grateful. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I have every right to stand on the public street outside your house |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. No. You do not have the RIGHT to harass me. You have the right to speak freely against government. |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. You keep talking about "protesting" against an individual |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Darth is no more a Private citizen than the Chimp is. We have the right |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. This is NOT a first amendment case. This jackass is welcome to preach his hate on any street corner |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. And what happens when that "dissuation" is turned on anti-war protesters? |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Precedent is precedent? NEVER has there been a right granted to INTRUDE on individuals' lives. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Then I tell you what, why don't you go talk to any Constitutional scholar, or Constitutional lawyer |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. What if I told you the only constitutional "scholars" supporting your stance are RW ones? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Why don't you quote your constitutional argument? The amendments I read say the Government shall |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. A couple things. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. What we say and how we protest doesn't really matter. |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. only if anti-war protestors show up at funerals |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. good for him |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
17. Hope he gets everything they own.... |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. I hope he does!!! It's bad enough theocrats have been allowed to seep into government. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
21. Excellent! I'm behind them 100%! |
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Nicole0214 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-01-07 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. They should do just that. |
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