Age of anti-Hillary, won't vote for her in November, people...

[HERVEPA]

Are they (you) mostly young folks without a good background in history,
or people not thinking analytically, or what?

[Akoto]

1. I'm twenty-two, so I suppose you'd see me as a young person ...

I'll support whoever is ultimately nominated on our side of the fence, but in the primaries, Kucinich gets my vote.

This is about voting for the person who speaks for my desires and ideals, as is both my duty and right.

[Vincardog]

2. How abut ME? I am an adult MENSA member who believes we need a POPULIST like Dennis Kucinich

not a triangulating corporatist like her. Your question is insulting.

[HERVEPA]

4. Not meant to be insulting. I would prefer Kucinich to Hillary.

I just cannot understand the idea of not voting for her in the general election if she gets the nomination.
Haven't people seen what THEY have done over the last 8 years?
And don't people know she would be extremely different from them, even if she is not as liberal as we wish.
And what about the poor, minorities (GLBT, Black, ...), it's OK to be cavalier and say the hell with them to make a statement! The statement (Nader, now a rethug tool, in 2000) worked out real well for us the last 8 years, didn't it.
It's a real world we live in, and we have to deal with that. It's great to be an idealist, but some realism IS needed.

[Vincardog]

13. Talk is cheap. The first PRIMARY vote has yet to be cast. Do you think ANY Democratic

nominee will have trouble taking on Rudy?

[EFerrari]

3. No. Are you?

:)

[HERVEPA]

6. Not young, unless 58 is the new 25. But I am analytical.

[EFerrari]

9. Then you might want to check your data set. n/t

[leftchick]

26. indeed

:crazy:

[Milo_Bloom]

5. Nope and thinking fine.

[Mojambo]

7. She hasn't secured my vote yet. I'm 34. n/t

[Romulox]

8. Does that mean that all pro-Hillary people are old coots with no interest in the future?

That seems to be the flip side of the OP's (quite loaded,) question. :silly:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. No.

Some of us are too old and too tired to keep selling out.

[Larkspur]

11. I'm 46, Caucasin, and oppose her because...

she supports shipping my job to India

And I also oppose her support of the Iraq war.

She's not a leader. She's a follower pretending to be a leader.

[Trajan]

12. You are relatively new to DU ....

A word of advice:

DU doesnt occupy a large segment of the electoral universe .... It isnt a world, a continent, a nation, a state, a county, a city, or even a block : It is as limited forum .... and ONLY a limited forum ...

While it may reflect the feelings and emotions of a large number of national citizens, the ratio of membership to overall population is infinitesimally small ...

My point is this: There really isnt much to 'worry' about here .... We MUST worry about the need to replace who governs the nation, and how we do that, but IF only a small segment of DU is declaring these statements, then we neednt place too much weight on this when compared to the national polity.

[HERVEPA]

18. I have been here since 2002, as have you. I just post less.

[Trajan]

19. Wow ... someone who posts less than I do ....

Nevertheless: that part of my message was insignificant compared to the rest of the message ...

Why didnt you respond to the 'infinitesimal impact' argument ?

[saracat]

14. I am anti Hillary, minored in history and Poli Sci and will only promise to try

to vote for Hillary is she is the nominee.I have a very good backround in history and I yhave been a Democrat for over thirty years. My grandfather was part of the Roosevelt Admin. Some of us just don't want Hillary and for very good reason. Your question is ridiculous and insulting.

[Inspired]

15. I'm old enough to choose a candidate that I believe in.

History tells ME that another Clinton in the White House isn't the kind of change I want for our country.

My analytical skills are fine, thank you very much.

I don't know if I'll vote for 'her' or not. Your insults won't matter much to me when I make my final decision.

[TahitiNut]

16. Hillary is the center of the universe. All else is either 'pro' or 'anti' and ...

... it's all personal. It can't possibly be principled disagreement. It can only be ignorance, inexperience, and a mental incapacity. Ave!

:eyes:

[B Calm]

17. 57 years old. I oppose her for all the corporate lobby money she's sucking up!

[gatorboy]

20. They're folks that are upset she doesn't "know her place".

[peacebird]

21. i didn't think it was possible to be more insulting than the op, but you managed

Original Message
They're folks that are upset she doesn't "know her place".
:eyes:

please. I was the only female engineer at the first conference I went to almost 30 years ago. The men either treated me like a little girl, or tried to get in my pants. I am a proud woman's libber and progressive democrat and I do not want Sen. Clinton to be the nominee. I am aware of how badly we need to get the presidency, and try to reverse the effects of the bush mis-administration. I just do not think she is the right choice.

[TahitiNut]

22. You mean like the folks who attacked Cynthia McKinney?

Oh. I see. :eyes:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. 63, BA in history. I'll be voting for the most progressive anti-war candidate on the ballot.

Even if I have to write one in.

[peace13]

24. People who start strange and insulting posts....

Are they bored or unable to come up with a topic that would solve problems rather than create them? Bring us together rather than divide. Help others understand the necessity for their candidate? Who can say?

[Dawgs]

25. 37 yrs. old - n/t.

[The Magistrate]

27. Actually, Sir

Resistance to voting for Sen. Clinton for President generally is concentrated among older voters, including older women, particularly those of retirement age, whose views on the suitability of a woman for President remains conditioned by attitudes prevalent in the culture decades ago. The younger people are, the more acceptant they are of the prospect of a woman becoming President.

[Vincardog]

29. Have you considered that some of the opposition to HRC has nothing to do with her sex? I for one

do want a principled progressive populist. I do not want a triangulating corporatist. Hence I do not support HRC in the primary. I would and have voted for women. Gender is not my issue with her.

[MadHound]

30. Wow, way to dis everybody who dislikes Hillary

Essentially stating that our opposition is solely based on sexist reasons, no matter our background or principles. Hell Mag, you don't even know us, and you make this bald-ass statement. I would think that you should know better to do so, knowing that you'll get your ass smacked down, but I guess not. Well let me commence the smacking.

I am a male, raised by strong females, married to a strong woman, who has worked for several womens' rights issues going back to trying to pass the ERA decades ago. My reasons for not supporting Hillary are her war like stance on Iraq and Iran, and the fact that she is, as my feminist sister, mother and wife clearly state, a corporate whore.

I really expected better out of you Mag, you always seemed like such a reasonable, intelligent person who didn't go in for such stupid, broad brush attacks. I guess not, and I suppose that I will simply have to chalk it up to your blind loyalty to "your girl".

[timtom]

31. Nonsense!

"Resistance to voting for Sen. Clinton for President generally is concentrated among older voters, including older women, particularly those of retirement age, whose views on the suitability of a woman for President remains conditioned by attitudes prevalent in the culture decades ago."

As a 65 year old white male, I would welcome a woman as chief executive.

But Iraq is the deal-breaker. No immediate withdrawal, no support.

I voted for Janet Reno in the Florida gubernatorial primary (then one which Jeb Bush won (2002?).

Age, gender, and race are not determining factors in my vote.
Electability is not a determining factor, either.

That was an unwise demonstration of a broad brush depiction.

[elocs]

28. I will vote for the nominee of the Democratic Party.

I am pragmatic and I understand that the next president will either be a Democrat or a Republican. I will do my part to elect a Democrat. I fully anticipate that if a Republican is elected, then those who vote Democratic but would refuse to vote for Clinton if she is the nominee will be screaming bloody murder about impeachment starting in 2009. It's too bad because usually it's children who pout when they cannot get their own way.

There's a lot of talk here about how bad Bush's my way or the highway attitude is, yet this is pretty much the same thing. Either I get things my way or I'll walk. Both attitudes are sad and out of touch with reality and how things really work in the real world where you rarely get everything exactly the way you want.