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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:45 AM
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To the 40% stupid MFers who STILL think Iraq did 911...
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 09:51 AM by LynnTheDem
isn't it interesting that the 40% so damn stupid they STILL think Iraq did,or was involved in,the 911 attacks...are republicans.

NEWS FLASH for the stupid MFers; Iraq had NOTHING WHATSOFUCKINGEVER to do with 911.

And even your hero george w. bUsh has said so.

Imagine being dumber than george w. bUsh! DUHHHHHH!


How can people believe something that isn’t true?

A significant number of Americans say Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

That number rose above 50 percent in the run-up to the war in Iraq in 2003. While that belief has since declined somewhat, for many Americans it still exists. In the latest CBS News/New York Times Poll 33 percent said they believe Saddam was personally involved in the 9/11 attacks.

As has been repeated over and over, there was and is no evidence of any such link. So why do so many people believe something that just isn’t true?

40 percent of Republicans believe Saddam was involved in 9/11, while just 27 percent of Democrats do.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/12/opinion/pollpositions/main3253552.shtml

'Cause they're dumber than george w. bUsh. And boy is that ever rock-bottom dumb.

As for the stupid 27% of Dems; you're as dumb as a republican...WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:49 AM
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1. I think most of that 40%...
...don't distinguish between different kinds of A-rab brown people. It's not a matter of education on the issue. It's a matter of, well, this:

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:51 AM
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2. Actually, Quantum Mechanics has explained that Iraq was behind 911.
Open your mind man!



(Do I need a sarcasm tag REALLY?)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:57 AM
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7. That's right. Someone opened the 9/11 box, and it collapsed to a single quantum state...
which in this case was not being associated with Iraq.

If we had NOT "opened the 9/11 box", then 9/11 simultaneously existed in two states, of equal probability, at the same time-- connected to Iraq, or NOT connected to Iraq.

It is the act of observation-- investigating 9/11-- that caused it to collapse to the quantum state of not being connected to Iraq.

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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:52 AM
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3. That 27% explains Zandor...
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 09:52 AM by YOY
Come back Zandor...nothing is forgiven...I just liked to post non-sequitar pro-wrestling moves on your flame-baiting thread.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:53 AM
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4. Well, at least Saddam won't be sponsoring any more 9/11s.
:banghead:
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:53 AM
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5. But Lynn, it is easier to fight them over there.
The light is better and there isn't any snow.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:54 AM
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6. George W. Bush not only says Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but he denies ever saying they did.nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:58 AM
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8. There will always be a certain segment of the population who
either just doesn't know, or just doesn't care. Republicanism depends on the mentally lazy, but there's no explaining the Dems--27% is too high a number to simply chalk up to brain damage.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:11 AM
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9. To the .05% MFers who successfully disseminated that myth:
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 10:14 AM by wtmusic
You're brilliant. See you at the Hague.

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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:13 AM
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10. IT IS THE MEDIA MISINFORMATION FAULT
IF ANERICAN NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:13 AM
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11. I'd think it be lower
afterall we ALL know IRAN was behind 9/11. DUH!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:41 AM
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12. Ugh
If anyone ever needs an example of the harm that 9-11 conspiracy theories without good evidence can do, there's one right there!

And if anyone needs an example of how evil Bush and Cheney are, and how stupid some of their voters are...
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 01:15 PM
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23. What do you mean...
...when you write: "If anyone ever needs an example of the harm that 9-11 conspiracy theories without good evidence can do, there's one right there!"

The OP cites another example of the sad fact that a fair percentage of americans are uninformed, quasi-literate, undereducated rubes and slack-jawed chowder heads lacking even an iota of critical thinking skills. That these dolts continue to exhibit those characteristics by, in this case, clinging to one of the many "inoperative" excuses for the Iraq invasion -- that Saddam played a pivotal role in planning and paying for 9/11 -- is hardly surprising.

But what does that have to do with the alleged "...harm that 9/11 conspiracy theories without good evidence can do...?" Do you honestly think that these very same dysfunctional illiterates have sorted through the physical, circumstantial and anecdotal evidence, read the official 9/11 Commission whitewash, done the background reading from "unofficial" sources, swapped information with friends and co-workers, participated in online discussions, met with local 9/11 truth groups -- then took a couple of weeks to sort it all out, applied those same underdeveloped critical thinking skills to the problem and decided, exclusively on its merits, that the official myth is true?

Do these morons sound to you like the kinds of people who would make an effort to see possibilities beyond the wildly fantastic official conspiracy theory? Do you imagine that they would see the holes in the official myth, which is so riddled with anomalies and coincidences that the odds against 9/11 occurring as portrayed by US governmental, mass media and doctrinal institutions are way beyond those against completing an inside straight flush? Do you think they would be stimulated by what's become one of the all-time great detective stories and true crime mysteries? And that they would act on these puzzles by doing much more than ordering an extra-large pizza for delivery and popping the fifth Bud Lite of the late afternoon?

I don't think the 9/11 truth movement has had much to do with turning these people into slobbering idiots; they had a pretty good head start on that long before BushCo invaded DC.

From your screen name, I assume you live in the UK. If you do, then you've got your own budding national security state and massive surveillance apparatus jump-started largely by 9/11 and then boosted by 7/7/05. But if you haven't been to the US lately, and whatever impressions you may have were formed during visits in the '80s or '90s, I suggest you come back over and have another look around. We've turned from a country of rugged individualist emulators and can-do types (or at least wannabes) into a gaggle of scared, timid, manipulated, nervous and nearly dysfunctional ninny reactionaries afraid of anything or anybody who fits the profiles the DHS has kindly supplied for us.

Plus, we've had a couple more decades of precipitous decline in public education, lock-down media consolidation so that five corporations now control more than 80 percent of all content doled out by mainstream sources, and an administration so inherently depressing just by their very existence -- not to mention their trillion-dollar addiction to repression, malevolence, greed and genocide -- that people have almost forgotten what it's like to live in a relatively free society, a place where the TSA dimbulbs don't feel you up just so you can be allowed on a plane.

So when I maintain that the current brand of american dullard -- BushBot to the end, drowning in wingnut fundie religiosity and utterly intolerant of any other belief system, media-manipulated into wage slavery and political orthodoxy, in hock up to his/her eyeballs and still consuming tomorrow's garbage, scared shitless most of the time and often armed to the teeth, bigoted and racist towards all designated enemies of the state, poisoned by wingnut radio and TV "news," ignorant of the most basic facts and ideas that people elsewhere in the world take for granted... when I write that this monster has become much worse than anything you might have experienced 10 or 20 years ago, that's my frame of reference.

And looping back to 9/11, that was the single, soul-purging, catalyzing event that sanctioned and kick-started the entire BushCo/PNAC war machine. Because of the massive slack conferred on these monsters in the aftermath of 9/11, they've been able to go on an imperialist rampage abroad and launch a bloated national security state at home -- and all this with the complicity of the "opposition" party.

Many determined people around the world are making a serious effort to undermine the administration's claims to the righteousness of its actions by yanking the justifying event right out from under them, exposing the obvious lies and hopefully making an airtight case for high treason against a dozen or so high-ranking current and former BushCo officials -- with Cheney, Rumsfeld and GW at the top of the list. When the public insists on either vilifying or ridiculing the 9/11 "troofers," they're simply doing BushCo's PR work for them.

Personally, I want to make their remaining lives one continuous, frightening, inescapable hell on earth. And, absent congressional will for impeachment, the best way to do that is to dismantle their claims of legitimacy, starting with stolen elections in 2000 and taking an honest, eyes-wide-open look at who benefited from 9/11. Sure as hell wasn't me, and probably not you either.

Oops. Another essay when a couple of points and a brief question or two was the original intent. Stop me before I type again...


wp
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:53 AM
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13. Why do you

HATE AMERICA?

How come you do not support the troops?

Why do you coddle the terrorists?

I am going to pray for you. Godless Democrat!



do
i
need
this?

:sarcasm:

I hope not... but just in case....
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:21 AM
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14. Who wants to bet that that 27% of dems are all Hillary supporters? nt
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 11:21 AM by Pawel K
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:18 PM
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20. 100% of the people who STILL believe that Kyle/Lieberman....
...is just an insignificant piece of legislation that in no way increases hostility toward Iran and does NOT bring us closer to WAR are ALL Hillary supporters.

Blind Faith, unquestioning allegiance, devotion to people instead of principles can have horrible consequences.




"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:38 AM
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15. Tragically, those 40% are probably also the ones lacking the skills to read and comprehend
and sadly, stupid people don't know they are stupid. Just a look at Freerepublic will tell you that these ignorant dimwits actually think of themselves as being smart and sane.
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me9399 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:51 AM
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16. these idiots....
these idiots are probably in favor of Iran getting nuked and probably have no problem with humanity being wiped out either.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:16 PM
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18. Hey, if God won't give us the Rapture, let's do it ourselves! nt
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me9399 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:23 PM
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22. Sometimes I wish the Rapture would come and...
take all of the idiots and bush bots and then those with common sense and decency can stay.
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FunkyLeprechaun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:14 PM
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17. Reminds me of the time
When I went to university and had to take Critical Reading as part of the requirement to getting a history degree. I'm quite glad I took it when I did because it was one of the most boring classes book-wise, but there were some really interesting people there. There were a couple of republicans there, the guy obviously smarter than the girl (and he eventually joined the army after the class, as I later ran into him wearing a uniform). I haven't heard about him since but hopefully the army has changed his politics.

Before anyone tells me I'm sexist, come on, this girl epitomized all the dumb blonde jokes (even Republican Guy who there couldn't believe how dumb she was). We had a short book that wasn't much to talk about and this was a 3 hour class. So we decided to take a break and talk current events. This was the summer of 2004 and was the height of the political season so it was ripe for debate.

We started talking about current events and that was the Iraq war. Disclaimer, I did post a diary about this on DailyKos the day it happened in 2004.

The guy said that the war was a personal issue for him so he wanted to talk about it. I pretty much said, "Iraq was a mistake, Bush didn't even finish Afghanistan. I don't know why we're in Iraq, Saddam didn't cause 9/11."

The girl said, "Yes he did."

My professor curtly said to her, "That's all spin, next."

She burst out crying and wouldn't stop crying all the way through the rest of the class.... 3 years on I'm just wondering why she cried so much during that class.

I don't understand the 27% of Dems who think Saddam caused 9/11... are they conservative Democrats? I know Leiberman's no longer a Democrat but if he was, I would have put him as an example of a conservative Democrat.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:17 PM
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19. unbelieveable they are still in denial of the facts!!!
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 12:19 PM
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21. wrong forum
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