I think repeating that Hillary & Obama want drivers licenses for illegals can sink them

[bigtree]

. . . BEFORE they manage to get to the general.

I'm obviously against the idea of giving licenses to those who emigrate into the U.S. illegally. The immediate thought is how those who issue the licenses would be accomplices to the illegal act. In many cases, that act of illegal immigration is not a minor offense or a benign one. At the very least, it's a breach of our national security which shouldn't be addressed with a wink and a nod by such high profile functionaries of the government. I think that if the act of registration by the illegals isn't going lead to their prosecution and work toward their compliance with our immigration laws, then its a worthless endeavor.

I expect this issue to heat up for the candidates who express support for it. I think it should heat up for them.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Uh, what?

"that act of illegal immigration is not a minor offense or a benign one."

Hell, it ain't even a crime. It's a civil issue.

"At the very least, it's a breach of our national security"

There's gonna steal all our white wimmin, right?

[bigtree]

2. I think it can be a national security issue with some who cross our borders

undeniably so.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. I think that's just ethnic scapegoating.

Just straight up fearmongering bullshit, the kind of crap Bush pulls on a regular basis.

[gateley]

3. Would we be able to get a driver's license in another country if we didn't

have a work visa? (Or whatever is required to work legally in a country). Just curious - anybody know?

[phillysuse]

4. Hillary blew it -

It is strictly a safety issue.

Do you want someone who doesn't know how to drive on the roads, or who can 't read road signs or who doesn't know the rules of the road or someone who has had previous accidents?

Do you want someone driving with no license and no insurance to rear end you?

No you want the people driving to know how to drive and to be taken off the roads and put in jail if they drive while drunk, whether they are legal or illegal.

It is strictly a safety issue.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

5. Egg Zackly!

I've been checking profiles and I've noticed that most of the people who are against undocumented drivers being licensed don't live in states where they have a significant number of them. Compounding the situation is that most of the border states don't have much in the way of public transit. The last thing my state needs is thousands of unlicensed, uninsured drivers on the road.

[AzDar]

10. I'm on the 'front line' so to speak, and I sure as hell think it's a tremendously

STUPID idea.
It is also political suicide for any candidate to embrace it.
So...go ahead, Hillary.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

13. I live in the same place you do.

I don't think Clinton and Obama were 'embracing' it. It was a gotcha question by that RW tool Russert. They are both right. It's a public safety issue and it the result of years of failure by the Bush admin.

[Traveling_Home]

6. Why do you think undocumented immigrant

would get isurance as a result?
They could borrow a friends registered insured vehicle to take the drivers license test. No insurance is needed to get a license.

What difference does it make if someone who rear ends me is licensed?
Either way it's their fault and the police deal with them.

I want anyone to be taken off the road and "put in jail if they drive while drunk, whether they are legal or illegal" AND whether they have a license or not.

Why would an undocumented immigrant care about getting a license? What's in it for them?

I just don't understand?

[phillysuse]

7. This is about public safety, I repeat, safety

I want anyone driving in the United States to know how to drive, to understand our driving laws and to not drive drunk.

Obeying car licensing laws would be a step toward regularization of status.

Obviously if we were to penalize an illegral immigrant for driving legally, no one would obtain a license. However, as long as these people are here and driving, wouldn't you want to control, in some way their ability to drive safely. Since driver's licensing is a State function and immigration is a Federal function, getting a driver's license would not change your status with the Federal government.

[Traveling_Home]

8. I still don't see why...

any undocumented immigrant would bother getting a license. I'm not suggesting we penalize anyone for driving legally but what would an undocumented immigrant have to gain? Why bother? If I'm illegal (or legal) and I'm now driving without a license and if I failed to pass a license test, I'd just keep on driving anyway. Why wouldn't I? What do I have to lose?

I still don't see how licensing has anything to do with safety.

We will just have to try another day.

[mondo joe]

14. If only that were true.

If I thought allowing driver's licenses to illegal aliens meant more would actually take and pass the test, would be insured and would follow through on standard obligations, I'd support it in a minute.

But I don't understand why anyone here illegally would opt to deal directly with the government which I'd think would seem like a trap.

[Rex]

9. It will work, a RW friend stopped by and told me the exact same thing.

He loves listening to Rush, Hannity and Beck everyday. Don't know how he stays sane.

[CK_John]

11. Oil just hit 95.30 in London. Being able to drive will be important than if anyone has a lic. n/t

[Tactical Progressive]

12. Yup, that's what they wanted

They were gunning for Hillary so they just let Obama's concurrence slide.

But it will hurt both and probably Dems in general.

[Roxy66]

16. Me too...This could sink them