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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 05:27 AM
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Can Someone Please Explain To Me Why Iran Is Any Threat
to us whatsoever? I am so irate that anyone including Hillary can even pretend that any Iran or any mideast country is a friggen threat to us. What the f*** would they want from us, except to be left alone?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 05:39 AM
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1. The necroconservative manifesto
declared that the US could not allow any nation to become a regional power capable of challenging US interests anywhere on the globe. Their concern is that Iran could organize the oil-producing countries in the Middle East, and challenge the US-based oil interests.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 05:40 AM
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2. Wouldn't you be a threat to your antagonizers?
So what is not to get? Iran watched what we did to Iraq and knew they were in the line up because little george said so.


The term Axis of evil was used by United States President George W. Bush in his State of the Union Address on January 29, 2002 to describe governments that he accused of sponsoring terrorism and seeking weapons of mass destruction. Bush named Iraq, Iran, and North Korea in his speech.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 05:45 AM
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3. They are a greater threat to Israel, and that is one of the names of this game...
that never, ever; and I mean EVER gets brought up = never-ever!!
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 05:53 AM
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5. Yep, They Are A Threat To Israel
That is a given. I guess the next question is, why do so many believe we really care about Israel? I realize that sounds harsh but I don't believe that most Americans or politicians care about Israel.
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 08:40 AM
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11. never ever indeed.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 05:51 AM
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4. Iran seems to be a distraction
from the "I" word behind the curtain.

At this point I can't help but think that the Dems have been so compliant in his emperorship's takeover, that exposing what lurks behind the curtain would bring down the entire house of cards. Yet the Dems are in huge trouble if they get their hands dirty with Iran before the next election. Why do they always seem to box themselves in?
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 05:56 AM
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6. House Of Cards, Hmmm
I am beginning to think the same. Maybe, we really don't want to know.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 06:17 AM
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7. they are a stumbling block in bush's DOMINION/DOMINATION plan.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 06:27 AM
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8. I guess we need a new boogie man to waste all our tax dollars on..
and bankrupt our country, thus doing away with all social programs.. like social security..
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 06:33 AM
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9. Follow The Money
When they say it's not about the oil, it's about the oil.

$100 a barrel oil means more for that in the ground in Texas and other locations...it's also a windfall for those playing the oil futures market. It's been quite a ride for these people over the past 6 years...starting with the Enron fleecing of California and now moving through Iraq to Iran.

The real problem with Saddam Hussein was he sat atop the second largest oil reserve and would flood the spot oil market to drive the price of oil down. He couldn't be bought or controlled (Raygun tried) and one of the biggest motives boooshie used about sanction violations was his abuse of the oil. Also how that oil would "easily" pay for his invasion. It was all calculated to take this oil out of production or strictly control who pumped it. The Kurds could be trusted, the Sunnis, not so much and definitely not the Shiites.

Now the focus is on Iran who also plays international wildcard on the oil market. Their large reserves are some of the few still not under the thumb of the large oil cartels and limiting or taking it out of production would just help push the spot price higher...thus more profits.

Again, when the spot price rises...so do all those ships that go along the production...the Saudis, the Kuwaitis and other Carlisle clients.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 07:07 AM
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10. Isreal and Oil
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 09:03 AM
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12. They had the nerve to settle, thousands of years ago, atop our oil.
Their blatantly being browner than some of us, and often non-Christian to boot, are just slaps in the face.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 09:14 AM
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13. They are no threat to us at all and you must reject any argument that they are or could be.
Do not allow the argument to go forward without rejecting the premis that Iran poses a mortal threat to our nation, or even a serious minor threat. Iran has no weapons capable of doing is great harm, it has no method of delivering what weapons they have and certainly no way to deliver (let alone accurately) a heavy nuclear device. They do not have the capability to make the materials for anything like a modern weapon and in fact couldn't even come up with enough material to make a small gun-type uranium bomb. They pose no meaningful threat at all to us as a nation.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 09:29 AM
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14. Going a step further
Edited on Sat Oct-27-07 09:32 AM by IDemo
Even if they do wind up with a nuclear weapon in five to ten years, they represent no bigger threat than Pakistan or the former Soviet Union. Nor do they have any particularly attractive targets, even assuming they also achieve a working missile to deliver the goods. We have already done them a great favor by removing their greatest enemy in the region, Saddam. They know that an attack on Israel would bring them complete annihilation from the US.

The "MAD" doctrine (mutually assured destruction) in place during the cold war would be replaced by the "SAD" doctrine: singularly assured destruction.
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