More muck on Maher

[donsu]

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2565.shtml


-snip-

Then, turning to his panel, Maher said, “You know what that’s all about? Given all the things I’ve said, and believe me, I’ve said a lot of things, as you all know, that could get my head on a block. The one they protest about out here, people think that the World Trade Center was a controlled explosion .” And here comes the piece de resistance: “So in that incident, I’m actually defending President Bush . I don’t think President Bush brought down the World Trade Center .”

But there were boos in response from more protestors. And Maher went for a laugh, saying “And cows,” referring to the protestors’ boos. He got his laugh although his Bush statement hung in the air like the atomized cloud of the Towers over the World Trade Center apocalypse.

-snip containing history on things Maher has said and done-

Well, at least, we know now you’ve suffered the slings and arrows of repression for being too smart for the room. But what have you learned, Bill, apart from pushing other people? What have you learned? And when will you learn, before you blow this show, too? Your highbrow guests, between forced smiles, were looking on somewhat in horror at the events. And Sheila, who knew right from wrong, tried to say you were walking on that precious First Amendment, the same one that was violated to show you the door. So it goes. So it goes.
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this didn't copy correctly. I'd advise reading the link

[meegbear]

1. Before you blow this show too?

How's the advertiser boycott going?

[devilgrrl]

2. The stupidest too-do ever.

Bill Maher doesn't believe the towers were downed in a controlled demolition :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:



Get over it!

:nuke:

[aquart]

7. Golly. Neither do I.

I actually believe brown people are capable of thinking up a plan to steal four planes and fly them into buildings and then execute that plan.

[Swede]

3. Right on Bill Maher!

Don't you just love his response to these idiots?

[CT_Progressive]

48. Yes, good for Bill. People need to accept that terrorists really did attack on 9/11.

And that Bush's only "part" in it, was that he and his admin are the most incompetent fucks to ever walk the planet.

[napi21]

4. That witeup is BS. I watched the show, and Bill had every right

to eject the disruptors. He even said "This isn't the Iowa cacus, and the debate is between US up here! You are the audience, and the word audience comes from the latin word that means TO LISTEN!"

[pepperbear]

5. what would have been alot more effective....

if bill had invited the "crashers" up on the stage to join the debate. It would have been alot more entertaining too.

[dysfunctional press]

8. i'm guessing that the 'crashers' aren't the type prone to debate...

they're just idiotic disruptors who try to shout down anyone with a logical opinion or facts.

[devilgrrl]

9. What would be even better than that is have them on Hardball with Tweety!!!!

Bigger viewing audience too!!!!

[Mz Pip]

11. Perhaps he should

change the name of his program to "Conspiracy Time" . That would be about as funny as a bag of hammers. :eyes:

Why should he be expected to let any disruptor wreck his show?

Mz Pip
:dem:

[MindPilot]

12. No it wouldn't

Bill's show is not an open forum. And exactly which of the INVITED guests would you have the host push aside to allow these nutcases to "join the debate"? As it was the "crashers" cut the panel discussion in half.

It's live TV and live TV is timed to the second. Deviate from the script? You just don't do that.

[mondo joe]

16. If you think that's entertaining, I suggest you pay to air it.

Igf you're right, you'll make more than enough money to reach many more people with the message.

[daninthemoon]

18. No way. I tune in to see Bill and his guests, not a bunch of rude

idiots in the audience. The whole thing was just bizarre, and I applaud Bill and his guests for continuing the show as quickly as they did. Now, if he wants to air a SHORT taped interview with one of them, that might be acceptable, but they had no right to interrupt the show, especially for something so assinine.

[theboss]

26. If by "entertaining" you mean, "flip to ESPN2" then yes...I agree

How is this the least bit entertaining?

[mondo joe]

40. I want to know why everyone who thinks this would be such great entertainment

isn't working to get the program on the air themselves.

[MonkeyFunk]

33. No

People shouldn't be rewarded for acting like children.

[mitchtv]

43. except no one wanted to hear that nonsense

They were rude, and ruining the show. Too bad it took so long to eject them

[AntiFascist]

44. The whole thing was staged for entertainment value...

you don't think the producers may have had some clue when they let people into the audience who were carrying placards?? It also allowed Maher, a very respected spokesman for the Left to denigrate the 9-11 movement, and of course there are plenty of DUers ready to jump in and try to finish it off.

[dysfunctional press]

6. i support bill maher 1000% on this one.

the wtc/building 7 conspiracy Nuts are an embarrassing bunch of complete morans.

[TwilightGardener]

10. Bill Maher's entitled to his opinion, AND his show not being interrupted by audience members.

[Lurking Dem]

13. Rock on, Bill!

He was right on the money.

[mondo joe]

14. How do you feel about DU tombstoning disruptors?

[enki23]

15. i'll go him one further

i agree with him, at least in this case, completely. and i'll go further and assert that i don't think george bush is a reptilian overlord who drinks the blood christian babies.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

19. Nope

He drinks the blood of Iraqi Muslim babies. And apparently has developed a taste for Persian baby blood.



Get On The H.O.R.N.!
America's Liberal Voice
www.headonradionetwork.com
and
iTunes Radio (Talk/Spoken Word)

[supernova]

17. Maher has the right to do his show his way

He threw out some uncooperative audience members. Big deal.

They picked the wrong forum for their protest, IMO.

[Speck Tater]

20. Deviating from the Party Line is inexcusable. Independent thought is forbidden!

Or at least SHOULD be forbidden. What will happen to party unity if we allow people to think for themselves. Outrageous, I tell you!

[mondo joe]

23. Which party line are you thinking of?

[MindPilot]

21. I've watched this several times.

When Bill says "...I’m actually defending President Bush." there is a sarcastic tone in his voice which indicates he is speaking from the POV of the protesters. Of course it doesn't come though in the transcripts, but watch the clip; it's there.

What Bill is saying is that these controlled demo tinfoilers think that because he doesn't believe their remote-controlled planes, missiles and controlled explosions conspiracy theory, that makes him a full-on Bushbot.

Just like some DUers think that because Maher got pissed off that some hecklers were disrupting the show, that makes Maher a fascist.

[Writer]

22. To the idiot disruptors in that show: How is Bill Maher supposed to affect change?

He's neither a politician nor a journalist. "Real Time" is an entertainment and opinion show - it is NOT a news program! If you're going to protest "THE MEDIA'S" (because, of course, they all work in unison :eyes:) coverage of an issue at least have a better understanding about the difference between journalism and entertainment.

Just because YOU get your news from comedy programs (and obscure, conspiracist websites, apparently) doesn't necessarily make you informed.


Sincerely,

Writer the (semi)Curmudgeon

[OzarkDem]

24. He reminds me of Morton Downey, Jr

All hot air, trying to boost his ratings. What a buffoon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morton_Downey_Jr.

[daninthemoon]

27. That's a stretch. Are you saying he planted the disruptors? In

what way(s) is he anything like downey?

[devilgrrl]

29. Uhm, I couldn't disagree more.

:eyes:

[DS1]

34. Laughable comparison. You might as well compare Tucker Carlson to Walter Cronkite

Sorry, Walter.

[blondeatlast]

35. Wow. It ain't perfect, but there's far more intelligent debate in one hour of RT than on a month of

Hardball.

[mondo joe]

38. Yes. They both have two eyes and 4 limbs, identify as male and are on TV.

They're alike in those ways - but no others.

[qazplm]

25. how is he "walking on the first amendment"

when he isnt the government?

Tired of people thinking the First Amendment means you get to say whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want, in whatever forum you want.

It most definitively does not.

[Writer]

30. And here's something else that most people don't understand: only the government can censor.

Once you walk into a private forum, you are immediately subject to their rules. Only the government can CENSOR a person's free speech through a rare act called PRIOR RESTRAINT.

[blondeatlast]

36. Thank you. I worked at the Collection Development office of my local

library for years and constantly had to tell people this fact. It took very little time before I had my spiel memorized.

I even just had this argument with Mr. B@L about a week ago. I'm happy to say I won it... :rofl:

[SidDithers]

28. The writer of that article has his head up his ass...

not only for his nut-job ideas about 9/11, but for his expectation that everyone else should believe what he believes, and for the idea that the disruptors deserve air time on Maher's show to promote their silly theories.

Sid

[2rth2pwr]

31. What the hell was Sheila talking about? First Amendment?

What does the first amendment have to do with this?

[DS1]

32. It's NOT A GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING FIRST AMNDMNT ISSUE YOU STUPID FUCKS

there.


that's better.

[blondeatlast]

37. Um...

YEAH.

I think you stated it perfectly.

[Dr. Strange]

45. Um, you might want to try reading the actual amendment first:

Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech ... and should any citizen desire to be on television, no effort shall be spared to make that happen. Cause television rules, baby! Also, don't taze me bro.

Sure sounds like a first amendment issue to me.

[mudesi]

47. lol (nm)

[DS1]

49. WRONG

done with you

[Milo_Bloom]

50. Umm DS1... try reading what they wrote.

[DS1]

53. I did.

It's not a First Amendment issue. The FA has fuck all to do with this.

Period.

[Milo_Bloom]

54. Dude, seriously...

I agree with you 100000%, but


READ what they wrote... They quoted the first amendment as follows, "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech ... and should any citizen desire to be on television, no effort shall be spared to make that happen. Cause television rules, baby! Also, don't taze me bro. "

[DS1]

56. ah

I thought I was dealing with another cut-and-paster who has nothing but the same reply over and over again.

It gets under one's skin.

[Dr. Strange]

52. Welcome to my ignore list nazi!

Um, let's see, how do you spell your name again?

[blondeatlast]

39. The First Amendment 101: CONGRESS shall make no law...

abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

If you scream bizarre conspiracy theories at my house during a social event, I can throw you out. Same with a BUSINESS.

Capiche?

[applegrove]

41. I thought he handled it well considering he had a show to do. And who

are the 9/11 conspiracy theorists who think they have the right to go onto a TV show an disrupt.

[Milo_Bloom]

42. So, is ignorance truly bliss?

Okay, let's start here...

"So in that incident, I’m actually defending President Bush . I don’t think President Bush brought down the World Trade Center .”"

This was a little thing called SARCASM. The concept is that he is "defending" bush from an absolutely ludicrous charge. That's not "defending" him, as much as stating the obvious.

Second comes this little gem which would be solved if they taught civics in school..."And Sheila, who knew right from wrong, tried to say you were walking on that precious First Amendment, the same one that was violated to show you the door. So it goes. So it goes."

Bill Maher cannot step on someone's First Amemdment rights, because Bill Maher does not work for the government. The first amendment ONLY applies to actions taken by the govenrment/state. That's it. Bill Maher's first amendment rights weren't violated when he was fired and this idiots first amendment rights weren't violated when Bill kicked him out.

I suspect that Bill's ratings will go up over the next few weeks as people tune in to see what will happen next.

[Dukkha]

46. it's not defending * by going against conspiracy theories

It's defending common sense against the wackos who don't have a shred of evidence to back up their tin foil claims. and there are NO rights to free speech on a TV show airing on a privately owned station. The idiots waived their right to assemble peacefully by shouting out on the air.

[Withywindle]

55. You know who's really defending *?

The people who think he and his "administration" are actually competent enough to pull off a conspiracy of this magnitude that would have to involve hundreds if not thousands of people and actually keep it secret for six years.

:rofl:

[Mutineer]

51. He owns the room, he gets to make his own rules

and invite on who he wants to talk to about what he wants to talk to them about. Bullying him isn't the way to get him to talk about what YOU want him to talk about. And it's rude to try to hijack his show and then continue to attack him for trying to regain of his show after it's been held hostage by a group of kooks with their own little nutty agenda.

[debbierlus]

57. Hey Bill, Who said BUSH did it?

If there was a set up on 9/11, it probably did not involve Bush directly.