Carville on Rather's Show: "I'll never get over 2000!"

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On Dan Rather Reports on HDNet. He interviewed Carville. When asked about what is his biggest outrage in his political life it was the Election of 2000.

Transcript isn't up yet, so I'll have to rely on my memory from last night.

http://www.hd.net/danrather.html

"Democrats fall in love. Republicans fall in line."

He called the NY Times campaign coverage of Al Gore "borderline criminal" and said the Washington Post was even worse. When pressed, he mentioned the non- stories about his smugness, his earth tone clothes, and especially the pushing of the lie that he said he invented the internet. He brought up the Love Canal lies, the pushing for Gore to concede Florida, and putting Gore under total scrutiny, while giving Chimpy a pass at every instance of his mis-words and hypocrisy.

He said that Both papers should take a long, hard look at the disaster that is the last 7 years with Chimpy, because they are chiefly responsible for it. He said "I'll never get over 2000, and neither should any Democrat...ever!"

He then went into who he thought would be a good running mate for Hillary, and Evan Bigh (sp?) was one of them, mentioning he's "centrist" instead of a DLC deadbeat, so Carville is still the DLC shill asshole he always was, but as far as the 2000 theft, he is right on the mark!

So all you Repugs, I'll never get over 2000 either, save your breath on telling me to. I don't take orders from any right wing asshole, so get bent! As long as you think Chappaquiddick is still valid, you have no right to lecture ANYONE on getting over anything. Hell, half of the Georgian's I met in Conyers/Covington are still fighting the Civil War. So eat shit!

[bigscott]

1. i agree with you

Carville is an asshole - married to a bitch. deserving of each other. Both spot-light, camera whores

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8. He obviously wasn't outraged enough.

[terip64]

2. I saw a little bit of it. Redeems himself a little in my eyes. I won't get over Ohio in '04 either!

[lonestarnot]

3. Yeah James. Mary rubb'n salt in your eyes every day too prollee.

[TwilightGardener]

4. Jesus, why is everybody pushing Evan Bayh? Can somebody

tell me what his great accomplishments are?

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6. I know. Creepy isn't it?

Carville's reasoning was he's from a red state (In) and with Bayh (thank's for the spelling) the Dems could take the state.

His real sream candidate would be the Kansas Guv. Kathleen Sebelius. He said it would be a blowout! "Why get one strong woman, when you can get two?" Of course Sebelius is also a "centrist".

[TwilightGardener]

7. OK, I do like Sebelius. She was able to convince some red-state Repubs

to turn blue--seems like a very competent woman. I don't think Hillary would take that kind of chance, though--seems even riskier than pairing up with Obama in terms of ticket electability. And I'm not trying to be controversial here, but there WOULD be lesbian innuendos (there already are against Hillary as it stands).

[hedda_foil]

17. Just like Lieberman ... He's the DLC's fair-haired boy.

He's being pimped for Veep for the same reason that Gore was pushed to pick Lieberman in 2000 ... to reassure the corporate masters that the Presidential candidate won't rock their boats.

[WinkyDink]

20. Evan Bayh is a little too sleep-inducing for me.

[calmblueocean]

5. I'll never get over 2000, either. It's one of the reasons I wish Gore would run.

Obviously, we can't repair the damage Bush and Supreme Court have done, but finally having Gore take the place he was unfairly denied in 2000 would do a lot to heal some deep wounds in this country. If Gore doesn't run -- and yes, I know, it sure looks like he won't -- these wounds are going to fester for the rest of my life. I and many others will be left with a profound sense of justice forever denied, and whoever the next president is won't be fully legitimate to me, even if it's a Democrat who is elected.

It's a free country -- well, it used to be -- and Gore is entitled to do whatever he wants, but his choices have consequences. I think Gore ought to run just to offer the chance at restoring legitimacy to the Presidency once more and healing not just the planet, but the country itself.

[srf Rantz]

10. I agree pretty much idealistically

that's what I'd love to see happen too and a big reason I'd like Gore to run.

but the reality is that "healing" probably wouldn't take place. they'd crank up the same bullshit noise machine they did during his campaign and smother his presidency with it.

we won't see any real healing until we find some way to dismantle their media machine, not just spread info by going around it like we do thru the internet and the blogs, but dismantle and return the broadcast media to actual journalism.

trouble is to do so and still remain true to our progressive ideals without resorting to reverse censorship or govt. control, and thus accusations of being partisan and "just as bad", will be difficult, to say the least, if not impossible.

there are ways tho ...

[NewJeffCT]

9. A local radio host here said that if Hillary wins...

he could see her appointing Obama to the SCotUS.

I think Hillary might pick Bill Richardson as a VP nominee.

[TwilightGardener]

11. I could definitely see Obama as a Supreme, but I want him to be President, too.

What to do with him if he's not the nominee? Way too much brains and talent to waste.

[lateo]

12. What ever Carville.

I'm glad he is upset about it but I'm betting it is for different reasons than you and I. Jon Stewart pegged him correctly when he visited his former CNN show "Crossfire". "You are part of the problem...you are hurting America."

[waiting for hope]

18. And he sooo wants Howard Dean's job.

Carville's a Prick.

[swilton]

13. Who Is Carville to Blame the Media

Carville is a pimp for the MSM on Crossfire - not once does he
ever get down to discuss substantive issues.  His claim to
fame is masterminding the Clinton '92 election which would not
have been won had not Ross Perot taken conservative votes away
from Bush I.

Carville is a pimp for the DLC.  

I'm sorry but if Gore doesn't run, I can't see voting for any
of the Democratic candidates now running.

Sarah

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15. Sorry, but that's a GOP BS meme.

Clinton got 44% of the votes in '92. Bush got 25%. Polls suggested that although more Repubs went for Perot than Dems/independants, the 19% Perot did get would've been split about 60-40 in Bush's favor has he not run. Clinton would've pulled it out anyhow. Bush was in the dog house for raising taxes, which was the right thing to do.

Even if all of Perot's votes went to Bush, he would've only tied Clinton at 44% (25%+19%).

This bullshit story has been pushed by the right wing, and Clinton hating Repubs to question his legitimacy and go after him with smears for 8 years during his presidency, and it should stop right fucking now!:grr:

[yodermon]

14. Carville Betrayed Kerry in 2004 with his traitor-wife Matalin

So I would politely request that he go fuck himself.

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16. Kerry wasn't DLC. Carville is a selective Democrat.

...convenient, huh?

He said, point blank...Edwards will not be nominated. He stated all the good things Edwards has said, like having a real health care plan, just that no matter what, Edwards will never be nominated. I assume because Edwards isn't DLC. He said the only ones with any chance are Obama, Clinton, and Gore if he decides to run. DLC'ers, all 3 of them.

[beachmom]

21. Yep. People should regard Carville with suspicion. Even about Gore.

This is just red meat he's serving, and people should take it with a grain of salt.

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19. Hey! I never been on the greatest page.

Thanks everybody!:grouphug:

[sandnsea]

22. pander pander Carville

It's the Clintonian specialty. But they never stand beside any Democrat except themselves.