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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:40 PM
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Are the neocons right? Are all those under the Democratic umbrella unable to defend one another,...
,...to the point that we are just a bunch of "scattered cats"?

If we aren't kicking Democrats to the curb, the Democrats are kicking MoveOn and Kucinich and Carter and Stark to the curb.

We argue among ourselves about the details, drop our compasses and completely lose sight of the people who are imposing abusive and criminal and unconstitutional policies.

Meanwhile, the PERPETRATORS escape to continue their crimes as we squabble over, small things.

I am sure you do not feel like a scattered cat. You are confident in your position on whatever hits you.

I'm not so confident in myself or my positions. I need to know both I and my positions contribute towards making life better for others. My value is dependent upon what I can do to make life better, even if it's just a compliment when that's all I have to give.

I am struggling to make a point, here,...about how the RW NOISE MACHINE purposely operates to steal the best of humanity and incite the worst of it,...with horrifying success, for now.

Thoughts through a keyboard, that's all.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:44 PM
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1. Bogus Bin Laden tape yesterday said much the same but re: Iraq Resistance
Sure, we're herding cats

always have been

but that's what real democracy is
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:56 PM
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4. That's pretty fucked up,....to suggest "Bogus Bin Laden" defines us? WTF?
:wtf:

WOW!!!!

Right at the top, too!!!

Hang that response on the wall, baby!

Incredible.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:07 PM
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6. The Theme of the Bin Laden tape was urging the Iraq resistance
to join together and fight the occupiers

instead of going after each other

Sorry you didn't get the connection


but since you brought it up

I'm pretty pissed off at the spineless complicit Dem leadership

and I'll be damned if I'm gonna shut up and go along with their bullshit

People and democracy are dying while they play politics badly
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:34 PM
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8. Well, playing politics badly could characterize posts on some discussion board, too.
If we can't do better, it's kind of silly to criticize other human beings (no bigger or lesser than you or me) for failing to be greater than us keyboard peckers.

True? :shrug:
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:49 PM
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9. I have no doubt that many here could do the actual work much better
but, getting the job is something else entirely

It's not what you know
it's who you know

so that makes most of us play politics badly

for if we played it well
we'd have been born to influence
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:48 PM
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2. only fascists are in lockstep...true democracy has many facets
fascist vs facists...I prefer facets
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:04 PM
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5. Fascists and rigidly self-involved facets interfere with common human causes, huh.
I've walked, lockstep, with people from every part of this world with thousands of facets.

We did so in respect of one another, LOCKSTEP, and against oppression that impacted all of us.

LOCKSTEP is a good thing when it comes to protecting our lives against tyranny.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:51 PM
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3. Well Hillary I guess has a strategy for getting in office
Kucinich is running on the issues.

I think the republicans have used strategy to get wins, and they know how to package issues.

I don't know how the big picture works though with Democrats.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:16 PM
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7. So, you don't know the "big picture" of Democrats?
I'm trying to figure your response to the OP.

:shrug:

You raised Hillary.

I am sitting here trying to figure how the "Hillary" thingy is responsive to the OP.

I can't figure.

Is the "Hillary" what's commonly called a "straw" being inserted? :shrug:

Must be.
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