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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:35 PM Original message |
Poll question: Do the Great Lakes water resources belong to all Americans? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. Wouldn't they belong to Canadians too? |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. This is correct |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yep I agree with you... Canada certainly owns some of the Great Lakes... n/t |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. yes they belong to the canadians |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. "Ontario says no to Great Lakes water plan" |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
85. ahem.....manifest destiny.... |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #85 |
95. So, screw Canada, eh? Screw INTERNATIONAL treaties, eh? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. ahem...it was a joke... |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Yep, I sure do. Sorry, but all the nastiness of the fire threads |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. If it is any consolation |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
106. Except for Lake Michigan (entirely within the U.S.), yep. |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #106 |
114. Although Lake Michigan is connected to Lake Huron.... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. ALL the worlds bodies of water are connected. Red herring. |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. We're on the same side, TahitiNut... |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. Not true. There is NOTHING connected to my bath tub... |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. Wow, what a frightening question ! |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Researchers are working on filtering systems |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. The Water Resources of the Great Lakes Belong To All |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Nope, wrong... Although you are correct in that the water that flows into... |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. If The Canadians Or The USA-ians Pollute The Waters of The Great Lakes... |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I will agree with you on that point.. and probably with that scenerio.... Canada... |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
91. Our waterways also flow into the Great Lakes |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Treaty. Lake water is owned by boardering states and Canada. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
108. So, then you'd agree that the oil resources of Iraq and Iran also belong to "All"??? |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. I Would? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
7. Do the redwoods belong to people in Ohio |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Well... yes. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Well dammnit then, why did I have to come here to see them??? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Because that would destroy it. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Probably on the lakes they were taking the water from |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. The great lakes get sucked dry by the St. Lawrence River every second. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. So it would have zero impact like a new wal mart on the environment? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I don't know. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. My guess is: |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. My guess is... |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
66. but if they give it to new mexico, they have to give it to everyone else too... |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
103. well, hey now... |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. lol... Now thats a good one for the nite... I love it... n/t |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Only if they are in a Natl Forest and/or Natl Park and/or Federal Land |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. So if they are federal they belong to all people to harvest and use as needed for TP? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
59. We'd just use them for Cornhole. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. I was expecting a different image |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Ohio cows lie. n/t |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 06:39 AM Response to Reply #59 |
76. That's a great picture! ... eom |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #59 |
93. lol |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #7 |
128. Yes, but the people in Ohio aren't allowed to cut them down and bring them to Ohio |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. Depends. |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Depends? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. Yes. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. Just like the oil that belongs to the Alaskans and the citrus that belongs to the Californians. |
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Maq (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
18. voted Other Most of the water belongs to CANADA |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Ok, but all of Canada's water from tributaries flows into an ocean or sea... |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. Please get a map out and look at it. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
67. Most? how so? |
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Maq (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
124. here is more to a lake than a body of water. |
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achtung_circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
25. The Great Lakes |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Why deplete another great national resource |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
27. Let's see, Canada and the United States share the waters |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
29. If you want the water, move here and enjoy it |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. If you want jobs, come here and enjoy it |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
98. We have jobs, thanks! |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
31. Excuse me? From Michigan. You are welcome to move there, but keep your hands off the water. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Agree, people are very friendly here |
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SlowDownFast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. As long as they leave Wayne Newton behind. n/t |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Agree, that's a deal breaker n/t |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
86. Amen to all of that!!! |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
104. amen. |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
110. Actually, I would prefer that Southwesterners concentrate... |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
35. Why wouldn't they belong to all the citizens of the WORLD? n/t |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
36. Southern and Western states in drought |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
39. You can't like 'own' a Great Lake mann! |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Sure, but you can own the land around it and control access. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Agreed... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
41. People need to understand that the water in the Great Lakes is NOT a renewable resouce. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Stay out of the South and West |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Sorry, but that's an idiotic analogy. I'm not trying to steal your Redwoods or your Saguaro Cactus. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. You'd better tell your tourism boards. NT |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Wave bye bye to your tourism industry. Meanwhile, we're still at drought levels |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
70. Fine! |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #46 |
88. I'm all for that, thanks. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
100. "polluting our states" |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Nonsense. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. And how much do you suppose is lost every year to evaporation and sustaining the water needs of the |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #54 |
89. In the 80s the problem was the water was too high |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
101. and what is the other 98% oh wise environmentalist? n/t |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
65. Okay if people from out of state swim in it? Or are they only allowed to look at it from a distance? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. You can swim in it, as long you promise not to pee in it. (nt) |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. That was NOT me. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 06:33 AM Response to Reply #41 |
75. Lake Superior exchanges its water in about 300 years, and Lake Erie in 3 years |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
48. Let's take Lake Erie for example. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. The thought of drinking water from Lake Erie |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. How about people relocating to an area with sufficient water. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. What a novel concept. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Good water management as well |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
107. ...and thereby create JOBS |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. They belong to the residents, absolutely |
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CitizenLeft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
109. you got that right. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
57. No more than the snow at Aspen or the oil under Texas .. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
60. Yes but I have no problem sharing depending on need. However, Las Vegas can go to hell, for instance |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
62. Does Nevada's mineral wealth belong to all Americans? If the Great Lakes could get some of that |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
63. Other: Yeah, native americans |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
68. They belong to Canada too |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
73. Wrong question. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
77. The treaty would allow "high value added" diversions like bottled water |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #77 |
125. Too many 7-gallon containers shipped to the Southeast and Southwest |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
78. I voted Other; |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
79. yeah, fuck canada |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
80. Other. |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
81. People should move to where the water is, not move the water. nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
82. I've had a line from a song in my head since yesterday that fits.. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
83. A good number of folks around here need a course on sovereign navigable waterways |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
84. I'm starting to think that those who live around the lakes |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. It just looks that way to us. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #84 |
94. Just waterless |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
111. I'm starting to think that people who live out West.... |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #84 |
129. You're kidding us right? No water wars or lawsuits in the west...sure... |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
87. They "belong" to the Earth. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
92. They don't belong to anybody |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
97. I Sure As Hell Don't Want Some repukes From Drought States Coming Up Here, |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
105. I think North Americans are stewards, but not owners of the lakes. n/t |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #105 |
126. Morally and environmentally, the Lakes states and provinces are stewards. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
112. "Ownership" is an uncomfortable idea in regards to nature |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
113. "Inch by Inch, Great Lakes Shrink and Cargo Carriers... |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
117. no... |
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European Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
119. If someone wants our water, they have to take the month of March.. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. ...no...they have to take January - March... |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-24-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #119 |
127. If they throw in November, I might think about it. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
122. Maybe the SW states would quit wasting water on lawns and golf courses... |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-23-07 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
123. Last I heard |
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