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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:12 PM Original message |
Secular Apocalyptists, Dystopias and Christian Millenialists. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. I've now been both in my life |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It's worth tossing out |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I base my feelings of doom on intellectual reasons now at least |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Well, that's one of the points I tried to make |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. it is marginally comforting that we'll be the people |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. What I find odd is how this started getting off the ground in the early 70's |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. That's actually the part that still gets to me a little |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. More like every few years or every couple of decades, if not |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Mad max might not be too far down the road. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. These bursts of religious insanity seem to occur pretty regularily. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. I base my feelings |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. Is this a phenomenon of modern times, |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Always |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. It's as old as religion is. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. sure is. but secular apocalypticism is |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Virtually every religion and culture |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. I've often seen popular forms of Marxism labeled secularized Judeo-Christian eschantologies. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Undoubtedly, though Judaism doesn't |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
16. How about some examples? |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Here's one to start you off: |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Here's a concrete example: |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. That wasn't necessarily secular |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. But many others |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. There were also plenty of secular |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Not disagreeing with you, I just think that Y2K was heavily tainted by Gary North |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. The webbot project has also somehow picked up on 2012 |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
23. Good post,Cali, |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Thanks, su |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I try not to shut people out |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. You do realize that no mortal can |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I agree.nt |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
28. But has the end times ever been FORCED onto us before? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. an unqualified yes. |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Thank you for answering. You say that Bush isn't pushing |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I don't know. I'm pretty tuned in to millenarian language |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Do you think that for most people |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. man, that's a really good question |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. If the human race survives long enough |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I had a really cynical anthropology prof once |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. That's about where I'm at these days |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. The human race is doomed. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Are you channeling Carl Sagan,by any chance? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Really great, great post. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
39. Thanks for the Wojcik reference. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I've had the same experience |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-22-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
46. kick |
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