RANDI'S ON (LIVE), and SHE herself says she wasn't mugged!

[Cooley Hurd]

...just an unfortunate accident while smoking outside an Irish pub.

WELCOME BACK, RANDI!!!!!!:bounce::loveya:

[JackBeck]

1. SHE doesn't even know what happened!

[Cooley Hurd]

2. She admitted she was in an Irish pub...

:shrug:

[JackBeck]

3. Dr's concluded there was nothing physically wrong with her.

Someone most likely slammed into her.

[Gold Metal Flake]

5. Pathetic.

[Stephanie]

6. Huh?

You've never been to an Irish pub?

[Cooley Hurd]

12. What's pathetic?

That she visited an Irish pub or that I jokingly inferred (via a graphic of my favorite drunk crow, Drinky Crow)?

[Gold Metal Flake]

46. As much as I like Maakies...

I don't care for the stream of insinuations of inebriation with regard to Randi's situation that I have seen recently on DU. At this point, without evedence of unlawful activity from any person or persons, this is a situation that is personal to Randi, and she deserves her privacy. Of course, there will continue to be posts from thise who deem it worthy of their time to malign progressives in pain. And so it goes.

[Cooley Hurd]

49. She herself said she was at an Irish pub...

...and she went out for a smoke and whammo! She came to, bleeding.

Getting drunk is certainly lawful (unless you're gonna operate a car, a supertanker or an airplane, of course), and perhaps she was teetotaling that night. My posting of Drinky Crow was done in humor and speculation only (that's why I put a shrug smiley at the end of it.)

Regardless of how she hurt herself, I'm EXTREMELY glad she's back, and better than ever!:thumbsup:

[Gold Metal Flake]

68. "I'm EXTREMELY glad she's back,..."

I see that in your other posts. Just looking out for my Queen.

:toast: <<< no irony intended.

[AuntPatsy]

66. How is that pathetic? Do you even know more than she was in there period?

[Xenotime]

69. What the hell is your problem? She is safe and you wanted something else?

[cherokeeprogressive]

Did she take her dog Simon with her? n/t

[Cooley Hurd]

29. She didn't mention Simon, so I assume Simon was an assumptive cover story...

...perpetuated by those who misunderstood the actual story.

[Breeze54]

88. Maybe she danced one Irish jig to many!

I blame the Irish!! It's always those damn Irish rogues!! :sarcasm:

:rofl:



:P

[Cooley Hurd]

94. We LOVE to drink and dance!

;) :hi:

[Breeze54]

101. I know!! ~ I've laughed with Irish eyes all my life!

:hi:

:toast:

[Matariki]

89. Drinky Crow!

[Cooley Hurd]

102. *dook-dook*

;):hi:

[slackmaster]

81. That's common after a head injury

It's called retrograde amnesia.

[bdamomma]

4. Randi is upset.

she must of blacked out.

[tridim]

11. I've seen people faint for no reason before

The last one I saw was in a bar, and the faintee hit her head on the bottom of a barstool. When she woke up she didn't have a clue what happened.

[dubyaD40web]

7. She doesn't know if she blacked out or was hit?

I don't think I understand? Does any part of her backside hurt? Like her head if it was hit from behind. Anyway, get well Randi.

[defendandprotect]

14. If you've ever had a minor accident, fall down . .. even when conscious you're not always sure

of exactly what happened . . .

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. Blacking out is a natural body defense

I've seen this one quite a bit in the back of an ambulance

What happened

Don't remember...

[JuniperLea]

43. I've blacked out twice...

Both times were horrible... I saw someone about to die, he fell out of the bed of a truck going 90+ on the freeway. I'm sure I wouldn't have been able to handle that, so my brain took care of me. Second time was a similar situation, someone was about to die and my brain thought better of letting me see it. I'm very grateful too!

[Mabus]

44. Bingo

As someone who was knocked out my a go-go dancer one New Year's Eve and didn't find out about what happened until several days later, I can vouch for that. I swear, one moment I was on the dance floor rocking out and the next thing I knew I was being helped out of the club. It happened so quickly that it took a couple of days for us (and some x-rays and an MRI) to figure out what had logically happened.

[defendandprotect]

8. Broken face . . . difficulties with eye --- very honest approach . . .

and I think we're all going to be wondering what happened?

Was it an attack on her?

[AngryAmish]

50. Freepers attacked her with hammers

[defendandprotect]

56. Could be . . . those really creepy little Freepers . . .

large hammers . .. small penises -- !!!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

9. "I'm done with this, that's it"!?!?!?!

I hope she just means I'm done with talking about it......

Because if it doesn't....

[cali]

10. It is not unreasonable to assume, at this point,

that she'd been drinking

[JackBeck]

16. Even if she had been drinking

She said her doctors said there was nothing physically wrong with her that would have made her pass out.

[bdamomma]

24. if she was drinking without eating all day, I would fall down too.

[lumberjack_jeff]

85. True, yet I'm 44 and still have all my teeth.

It isn't that far to the ground.

[Cooley Hurd]

27. I know - I've done worse when I've been drunk...

...in fact, I walk funny to this day because of it. ;)

Bottom line, IF Randi was drunk and fell down, then that's it. That's fine - she's a human like the rest of us. I still love her!:loveya:

[Semper_FiFi]

109. I love her too.

I send her all my love and support.

[azmouse]

13. I went through a brief time where I would black out for no reason.

It's scary but the docs found nothing wrong with me either.

Randi should be careful and have someone check on regularly for the next few months in case it happens again.

Stay well, Randi. I'll keep you in my prayers.

[defendandprotect]

17. It's unlikely that just "blacking out" would have caused this kind of damage ---

[azmouse]

37. It happens very suddenly.

I was lucky to land on soft surfaces for the most part. Once I collapsed in a parking lot and cut myself very badly. I have scars from the stitches.

Randi landed on a hard surface with no chance to break her fall. I'm glad it wasn't any worse than it was.

[defendandprotect]

57. If she's talking about NYC "grating" that's trouble . .. but still . . .

sounds like she's saying her face was smashed into the grating . . .

I think it will take time for her to understand herself what happened ---

a lot of trauma to recover from considering the injuries and pain ---

[Monk06]

78. A couple of drinks, a cigarette and low blood pressure. Quite reasonable IMO

Hell I got out of bed too quickly one morning
and passed out on my feet while walking to
the kitchen. Face meet door jam. It happens.

[cali]

99. What kind of damage?

A few broken teeth? It's entirely possible that a fall on pavement could cause that. So, what kind of damange are you talking about?

[Javaman]

15. She also could have just fainted.

it does happen out of the blue and can be brought on by a variety of things.

I know from personal experience.

it's call syncopy. Also Vasivegal (sp)

[libnnc]

18. locking your knees...

you'll drop like a felled larch.

As a marching band vet, I've seen it first hand.

[defendandprotect]

19. Fainting doesn't cause this kind of damage ---- either --- !!!

[Javaman]

26. actually yes, I can show you the scars if you like. nt

[defendandprotect]

54. Well, just tell us what happened to you -- try that . .. . !

[Javaman]

72. okay, earlier this year...

I had a family emergency that could be described as an extraordinary level of stress in my life, the likes of which I had never experienced before.

To start off with, I'm very healthy, exercise, run, eat right, get yearly check ups, the whole dealy.

So one sunday night, I'm talking about the issue with my wife. (the problem was with my extended family and centered on my Mom), and suddenly I felt this rush of heat take over my body, I turned beat red (later on my wife would tell me, now you know what one of my hot flashes feels like LOL not fun).

Then I felt really strange, no other way to put it. no disoriented, just not right, out of sorts. I then sat down.

just before I passed out, I told my wife to call a doctor, and she said, you mean, 911? I answered yes, and passed out the first time.

they checked me out. I was fine by the time the showed which was literally about 2 minutes later. They asked if I wanted to go to the hospital, I said no. (later on, I found out, they shouldn't have asked and should have just took me)

Anyway, later that night, I have to get up to...pee.

while standing there doing my business, I must have blacked out, because the next thing I know, my wife is standing over me waking me and I'm bleeding from my forehead from smacking it on the counter on the way down.

syncope is a weird thing. it's a nerve based disorder. men can get it getting a proctology exam, while urinating (me) and stress. there are other reasons, any sort of very extreme emotional moment (dad passes out during the birth of a child, yes that actually happens).

The same goes for women, but not being one, I'm not really as familiar with the circumstances needed for them to have one, I would think they would be similar.

The other thing is called vasivagel (spelling), which is chronic fainting. If this is the case, then basically the message between a nerve near the heart and a sort of pace maker in the brain that maintains the beat gets out of sync and causes fainting. I'm no doctor and my description maybe off, but that's how it was explained to me. if you have vasivegal, you have to give up your privilege to drive. Thankfully, I don't have that.

I went through a slew of tests, everything from a stress test, echo cardiogram, to a complete MRI of my brain. No tumors, no heart blockage and I did better than the best on my stress test.

So for me, it was just stress. But that didn't stop it from scaring the hell out of me for a while.

So there is a possibility that she just fainted. Like many people in the media, she could just be stressed out or something going on in her personal life we know nothing about.

[LanternWaste]

71. yes-- fainting can cause that much damage

I have two expensive caps on my front teeth (more cap than tooth) and an eight long inch scar on my forearm which indicates that, yes-- fainting can cause that much damage. It really depends on where/how you fall and what you fall onto/into.

[defendandprotect]

74. Randi is describing feeling like her face was smashed into a grating . . ..

I think we have to wait and see what she finally concludes about the incident ---

Personally, I wish she'd stop talking on the radio about where she lives --

She's very heavily attacked Bush . . . . and there are a lot of crazies out there ready

to ensure that "god's chosen" president can continue to get away with the lies and destruction.

[LanternWaste]

82. I think that prudence indicates

I think that prudence indicates that we should simply take her word for it-- and for the time being, agree there was no premeditated attack on her by the RW until there's evidence to support it.

Although I don't listen to her show (I don't listen to any radio talk shows-- it's nothing against her), you seem to imply she's giving a lot of information away about her personal residence, etc. that she shouldn't be-- I hope you're incorrect on that. If not, it may not be a hair-brained scheme if you simply called up her show and gave her a head's-up about it.

[defendandprotect]

106. Probably I could suggest that at her website . . .

I think she's going to need time, herself, just to sort out what happened . ..
in particularly because of the injuries which are probably going to be a problem for a while.

[BlueGirlRedState]

20. Listening to Randi now...

my heart goes out to her -- four emergency root canals! And all the tabloid reporters trying to get a photo of her with her face bruised and teeth broken.

You're beautiful, Randi, and we love you more.

[bunny planet]

21. Her two line note saying she was mugged seems to have prompted Jon Elliot

to play a little game of telephone. His statements are really what started all the rumors. Did Randi mention that?

[orleans]

22. poor randi. she thinks she was probably slammed into from behind

her face hit the sidewalk and street grate

her eye was bleeding and four teeth knocked out

she's had four root canals since monday so she wouldn't lose more teeth

she has a black eye

i'm sure she's beautiful with a black eye too

and the insult is no fucking reporter even bothered to ask if she was alright.

we care randi

we're so glad you're doing better

speedy recovery to you darling

:hug: :hug: :loveya:

[Cooley Hurd]

36. Best post on the thread...

Thank you!:thumbsup:

[Stephanie]

42. the street grate would be at the corner

I bet she stepped out to cross and got hit by a bike delivery guy. those guys are dangerous, they ride the wrong way on one way streets, they ride on the sidewalk, and they don't give a shit. if she got hurt that bad (that's absolutely horrible - i feel so bad for her) i wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened and the guy sped away.

[Virginia Dare]

48. A coworker of mine..

got slammed into by a delivery guy on a bike, knocked her down and crushed her arm. He never stopped.

[Stephanie]

53. this is what I'm thinking

they really don't care

[Cooley Hurd]

55. Bike messengers have their own "rules of the road..."

...and they tend to blend in with the surroundings. If only thay could design our fighter jets and Navy ships to have the radar silhouette of a bike messenger...;)

[defendandprotect]

59. Are these Bike Messengers traveling on the sidewalks --- ?????

[Cooley Hurd]

61. They could be... their mission is to get to point A to point B as fast as they can...

...BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.:scared:

[Stephanie]

73. the messengers don't do it but the food delivery guys do

[wrenny]

100. sometimes they do

My son got hit by a messenger bike guy in DC - on his sixth birthday! We had just gotten off the train for a nice day visiting the museums. We were walking down the street and he was just behind me a bit when a guy on his bike came around one of those huge concrete planters and slammed into him. He had his front tooth knocked out and his mouth was bleeding. We went to the Childrens hospital by ambulance since we were without a car and he had to get a few stitches in his gums. Luckily it was a baby tooth.
The guy did not take off, and we were in contact with the company he worked for. They paid all the bills.
My son is 11 now and still loves to tell that story.
So that could have happened to Randi.

[Cooley Hurd]

104. First and foremost, welcome to DU, wrenny!

:hi:

I hope your son is okay now!:hug:

[Stephanie]

70. if it was night it would be the food delivery guys

and they are even worse

[Cooley Hurd]

75. ...but if the Food guys slam into you, at least you get some grub...

...sure, some fisticuffs MIGHT be involved, but, hey... FREE FOOD!:rofl:

[Breeze54]

84. Thanks for the update!! I said she may have been hit from behind but

was told I was a "conspiracy theorist"! :rofl:

I'm glad to hear she's back on her feet and healing.

Thanks! :hi:

[nadinbrzezinski]

87. :-)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

23. She also talked about being hounded by the press outside of her home. Trying

to take pics of her battered face but not asking how she was.

She thanked all that have been there for her in way of her family, friends, lawyer and she thanked everyone in the blogosphere that wished her well.

When she started to choke up with tears. it made me tear up too.

:hug: to Randi

[MethuenProgressive]

34. So, this is the 'Liberal Lie' FOX & Fiends was going on about this AM?

Did anyone really "lie" about anything?

[fooj]

38. Yep. She did choke up, didn't she?

All the best to Randi. You, too!!! :hi:

[never_get_over_it]

58. I think the "reporters" were obnoxious

BUT if IDIOT Jon Elliott - and there really is no other word for him - hadn't gone on his rant about the right wing attacking her - I doubt the press would have cared one bit that Randi probably had too much to drink and fell on her face

Nice work Jon Elliott

[Cooley Hurd]

83. I think Jon is the one who caused the cavalcade of speculation...

...with his misinformation. In all fairness, he probably snagged the (right-wing attack) rumor and RAN with it. Bad on his part, but NOT fatal.

[never_get_over_it]

95. I'm just listening to Randi again

and I'm going to cut Jon a bit of slack because Randi did send an email stating she was mugged - I hadn't heard about the email before - at least Jon did have a bit of info to go on BUT he really should have had more actual info before going on the rant....

[nadinbrzezinski]

108. Given the history of attacks on liberal hosts, including a murder

I fully understand

[liberalla]

25. Well that clears it up!

Not.

I'm very glad she is back and speaking for herself!
And, of course, I still wish her a speedy and full recovery.

:kick:

[defendandprotect]

28. Imagine the trauma of losing teeth and questions about her eye!!! and . . .

being a radio broadcaster ---!!!

She seems, nonetheless, to have kept up with the news --- somehow -- !!!!

[Cooley Hurd]

32. I'm cool with her explanation...

Bottom line... shit happens - EVEN to those soldiers on OUR side.:thumbsup:

[liberalla]

45. Oh yes, I'm cool with it too.

It just still leaves us without a clear explanation of what felled her. After all the speculation I was hoping for a clearcut reason. She's not sure herself, but I am satisfied that there was no attack on her. Like you say, shit happens.

She's sounding good! Like her old self!
:toast:

[defendandprotect]

62. The bottom line is . . . Randi doesn't know ... maybe later on she will ---

It's good to have her back and I hope that the health considerations will not be extensive . . .

[backscatter712]

30. Could happen to any one of us.

Sounds like your basic freak accident.

Don't sweat it Randi, it happens to all of us.

[me b zola]

33. I'm so glad that she's back

Nothing but love and hugs to Randi :hug: :loveya: :hug:

[MethuenProgressive]

35. Here's the FOX propaganda on this...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302316,00.html
When "reporting" on this today, FOX and Fiends ran a "Liberal Lie" banner under the talking heads.

[LSK]

40. Apparently she was the subject of Hannity and Colmes

[Tommy_Carcetti]

41. I'd like to give Fox News...

...a fair and balanced fuck you.

[Vanje]

60. You know....

Cant say Jon Elliot didnt just serve it up to Fox, hot, in a steaming platter.

Elliot was a total 100% bone-head.
Right-wing attack mugging was a REEEEALLY stupid assumption to go on air with.
Idiot!
Can you blame Fox for running with it?

IDIOT!

[doublethink]

39. It's Alive !!!!!!

All in the halloween spirit Randi !!! Nothing really humorous about what happened to you. We LOVE U !! Keep speaking the truth to power and being a voice of reason out there. Get well soon, in our prayers. Did I mention WE LOVE U YET? Well we do. :hug: Peace.

note: rec 5.

[JDPriestly]

47. I fell flat on my face, broke my nose, etc., etc. not that long ago.

I have some important information for Randi. Her doctor may already have told her this. If you have abrasions, put on antibiotic cream at first and then put on a combination of pure vitamin E and pure aloe vera extract. You can buy these items at many drugstores, They are not expensive, and they heal and soften the skin very quickly in a natural, healthy way.

I can't get into Randi's forum on website (can't remember my password and user name). Would someone please post this there so that she or her assistants see it. I also advise other people with abrasions to try this.

[LisaM]

51. What about a drugged drink?

I have heard multiple stories of people being slipped the so-called date rape drug in their drinks and blacking out. This would be a plausible thing.

Or she could have been slammed into. There was a story in NYC a couple of years ago about a woman who was jogging and was backed into by a truck and killed - I'm sure she never knew what hit her.

I have close calls ten times a week on downtown sidewalks, etc.

[defendandprotect]

64. One of the things that bothered me was Randi sometimes referring to where she lived . . ..

Anything is possible --

from drugged drink -- to a simple accident --

We have to wait for Randi to figure it out and tell us ---

And, the trauma of so much damage to her mouth and eye I think will keep her focused there for a while and presume keeping pain abated.

[defendandprotect]

65. And . . . no witnesses? Anyone who helped her at the scene . . . ????

[Lena inRI]

93. Right you are. . .any corner traffic camera in place???

First, my best wishes to you Randi. . ."so important for you to remount the horse after one falls". . .

but this whole story is soooooo incomplete and INTIMIDATING EVEN to us, which you have to be feeling on top of all your physical pain, Randi. . .

we hope some kind of investigation . . .private or NYPD. . .should at least SEARCH for either witnesses or technical recording of that CORNER site of your fall. . . .

NO WAY WOULD I FEEL SAFE WITH ALL THE "HOLES" in this experience. . .whether the cause was within Randi or from without, only a witnessing record would put me at ease once and for all.

Godspeed for your total recovery, Randi, and the proven truth about what happened.

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[drbtg1]

52. She mentioned a "cosmetic" dentist and thanked a "Dr. Rosenthal"

I wonder if this is the "Dr. Rosenthal" she was referring to.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/02/20/ndent20.xml

If so, Dr. Rosenthal isn't exactly the cheapest guy around, not someone anyone here could afford, so I don't think Ms. Rhodes would need Dr. Mika's very generous offer.

[Freddie Stubbs]

63. Did she say WHAT she was smoking?

;)

[Cooley Hurd]

76. Major-league herb...

She stood out in the middle of the street smoking a blunt and was whacked by an anti-hemp repiglican!

:rofl:

;)

[XOKCowboy]

105. Well she's been known to frequent Willie's bus... :)

And I certainly wouldn't blame her.

[otohara]

67. Then Why in The Hell Did She E-mail AAR & Say She Was?

what the hell did she think they were going to think?

I'm sorry but listening to her anger about this thing snowballing after she said in an e-mail "I was mugged", is just unbelievable. Take some responsibility Randi! Sorry about the injuries she suffered, but don't be all shocked when something comes back and bites you in the butt!

[Cooley Hurd]

77. I haven't heard anything about the emails that she sent to AAR....

:shrug:

[otohara]

80. She Said

when she got back to her apt., she e-mailed AAR so they would have time to get a replacement and she wrote "I was mugged" - can't remember if she said something about the teeth, but if she did, then a logical person would think the worst!

[Breeze54]

86. So the ""mugged" thing came from HER! - Not Jon Elliot!

But he was man enough to apologize anyway.

I like him even MORE now!! :D

[otohara]

90. Yep

it was a STUPID thing to do! I worked in radio and this shit like this spreads like fire. Radio people are the biggest and most vocal gossips. Soon the entire office is talking about it and all the facts get jumbled up.

She might have been joking, but it turned out to be not so funny in the end for HER and she can't admit she did something really, really stupid. She's being all indignant with everybody else and it's reminding me of Larry Craig's toilet paper story.

[Breeze54]

91. Same thing happens on DU all the time! People forget that sarcasm

or kidding doesn't translate on paper unless you add a :P or a :sarcasm: tag!

Jon Elliot deserves an apology from everyone who called him names the other night!

He was upset by what he thought happened to her, so I think he read her e-mail at face value and was concerned.

Gheesh!

[slackmaster]

79. Wow, the Conspiracy has even gotten to her

Teh coverup is complete.

We're screwn.

[otohara]

92. LOL

[rocktivity]

96. If she's not exactly sure what happened, how does she know it was an accident?

Either she had a drunken fall and is too embarrassed to admit it, she WAS attacked and is too traumatized to remember, or she was attacked, remembers, and has cooked up this cover story with the cops while they investigate.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Cooley Hurd]

97. Tony Soprano might've been a fictional character, BUT...

...passing out because of an anxiety attack is NOT fictional!

[JackBeck]

98. I love how she opened the show:

"Did something happen to me?"

Gotta love Randi's sense of humor.

Get well soon, Randi!

:hug:

[Cooley Hurd]

103. I wanted to yell back, "Nah... everything's cool!"

...to be followed by a marriage proposal.;)

[Laurier]

107. Glad she's okay.

It sounds like she just drank too much and fell down while outside for a smoke. No magic, no mystery, no mugging. Just drunkenness. So what? It happens. Nothing wrong with going out and hoisting a few, even a few too many, as long as you're not driving or otherwise putting others in danger, and it appears that she was not driving or otherwise putting others in danger. So, she got a bit wasted and fell down. No biggie. It should have been a non-story and probably would have been had she not claimed that she had been mugged. Now, it's just embarrassing.

But this, too, shall pass.

[Breeze54]

110. She may have been pushed.

But she lost consciousness and so, is foggy on what really happened.

I'm glad that her 4 teeth were fixed and her black eye is on the mend.

I don't care what the RW toads have to say. They attacked a 12 year old last week!

They will stoop to the lowest level and then dig a hole.

Screw what they think! They don't count anyway, in my world.

I just want those bastids gone...and sooner the better! ;)

[Laurier]

111. There is no evidence of her being "pushed"

So, for now, I'll have to go with the story that she was drinking and fell down, since that's her story and since it's also consistent with common experience, common knowledge, and the stories of at least a hundred thousand others (this is probably a gross under-estimate) who drink too much and fall down every year in NYC.

It is a bit silly to assume or pretend that other scenarios are more likely in the face of the evidence as we currently know it, coming from Randi herself. It really sounds like she just got a bit drunk and fell on her face. Like I said, it happens. Nothing to be ashamed of. But I don't think it helps her if others post unsubstantiated theories about her being "attacked" or "pushed" as that only feeds the nonsense and draws more unwarranted attention to a single incident of her over-indulging in alcohol and falling on her face.

[JackBeck]

112. There's also no evidence of her being drunk.

Which is your unsubstantiated theory.

Like she said on her show, her doctors checked her out and found no physical reason why she would have passed out.