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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:37 AM
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Gore: "serious violations of law by the President."
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 12:54 AM by garybeck
Gore is the only one who realizes how bad Bush is and is willing to talk about it in public.

On Monday, January 16, 2006, an audience of over 3,000 people visited DAR Constitution Hall in Washington, DC to hear a powerful speech by former Vice President Al Gore entitled "Restoring the Rule of Law. " The event was co-sponsored by ACS and The Liberty Coalition, and broadcast live by C-SPAN.

LINK to video of speech:
http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096
Just skip the intros and go to 9:00 when Gore walks to the podium.

A few key excerpts from the transcript:

"The President and I agree on one thing. The threat from terrorism is all too real. There is
simply no question that we continue to face new challenges in the wake of the attack on
September 11th and that we must be ever-vigilant in protecting our citizens from harm.
Where we disagree is that we have to break the law or sacrifice our system of government
to protect Americans from terrorism. In fact, doing so makes us weaker and more
vulnerable."

"When President Bush failed to convince Congress to give him all the power he wanted
when they passed the AUMF, he secretly assumed that power anyway,"

"the Executive Branch has claimed a previously unrecognized authority
to mistreat prisoners in its custody in ways that plainly constitute torture in a pattern that
has now been documented in U.S. facilities located in several countries around the world.
Over 100 of these captives have reportedly died while being tortured by Executive
Branch interrogators
"

"The fact that our normal safeguards have thus far failed to contain this unprecedented
expansion of executive power is deeply troubling. This failure is due in part to the fact
that the Executive Branch has followed a determined strategy of obfuscating, delaying,
withholding information, appearing to yield but then refusing to do so"

"There is a final reason to worry that we may be experiencing something more than just
another cycle of overreach and regret. This Administration has come to power in the
thrall of a legal theory that aims to convince us that this excessive concentration of
presidential authority is exactly what our Constitution intended.
This legal theory, which its proponents call the theory of the unitary executive but which
is more accurately described as the unilateral executive, threatens to expand the
president’s powers until the contours of the constitution that the Framers actually gave us
become obliterated beyond all recognition."

"Last week, for example, Vice President Cheney attempted to defend the Administration’s
eavesdropping on American citizens by saying that if it had conducted this program prior
to 9/11, they would have found out the names of some of the hijackers.
Tragically, he apparently still doesn’t know that the Administration did in fact have the
names of at least 2 of the hijackers well before 9/11 and had available to them
information that could have easily led to the identification of most of the other hijackers.
And yet, because of incompetence in the handling of this information, it was never used
to protect the American people."

"But there is yet another Constitutional player whose pulse must be taken and whose role
must be examined in order to understand the dangerous imbalance that has emerged with
the efforts by the Executive Branch to dominate our constitutional system.
We the people are—collectively—still the key to the survival of America’s democracy.
We—as Lincoln put it, “ven we here”—must examine our own role as citizens in
allowing and not preventing the shocking decay and degradation of our democracy."

"For example, when the Administration was attempting to persuade Congress to enact the
Medicare prescription drug benefit, many in the House and Senate raised concerns about
the cost and design of the program. But, rather than engaging in open debate on the basis
of factual data, the Administration withheld facts and prevented the Congress from
hearing testimony that it sought from the principal administration expert who had
compiled information showing in advance of the vote that indeed the true cost estimates
were far higher than the numbers given to Congress by the President."

"To take another example, scientific warnings about the catastrophic consequences of
unchecked global warming were censored by a political appointee in the White House
who had no scientific training. And today one of the leading scientific experts on global
warming in NASA has been ordered not to talk to members of the press and to keep a
careful log of everyone he meets with so that the Executive Branch can monitor and
control his discussions of global warming.
One of the other ways the Administration has tried to control the flow of information is
by consistently resorting to the language and politics of fear in order to short-circuit the
debate and drive its agenda forward without regard to the evidence or the public interest."

"We have a duty as Americans to defend our citizens’ right not only to life but also to
liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is therefore vital in our current circumstances that
immediate steps be taken to safeguard our Constitution against the present danger posed
by the intrusive overreaching on the part of the Executive Branch and the President’s
apparent belief that he need not live under the rule of law.
I endorse the words of Bob Barr, when he said, “The President has dared the American
people to do something about it. For the sake of the Constitution, I hope they will.”

A special counsel should immediately be appointed by the Attorney General to remedy
the obvious conflict of interest that prevents him from investigating what many believe
are serious violations of law by the President.








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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:59 AM
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1. Yeah...no shit.
We sure ain't hearing about it from our Democratic "leadership," are we?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:12 AM
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2. Kucinich: Get Ready to Read Bush His Miranda Rights
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 01:19 AM by G_j
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2049117&mesg_id=2049117

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/27692

Kucinich: Get Ready to Read Bush His Miranda Rights

Submitted by davidswanson on Sun, 2007-10-14 18:16. Criminal Prosecution
Kucinich speech at Latino Congresso, via MyDD

I'm so grateful to be with you this morning. It's such an honor. When I am with this community, I realize the real connection I have, from the heart, (el corazón). It's a connection that transcends the issues, but it connects us to the issues at the same time.

When I started my career in politics forty years ago in Cleveland, the Puerto Rican population was growing, and there were a lot of problems between that community and the police. And so when I finally got elected to city council with the help of the Puerto Rican community, the first thing I did was to take a Spanish language course, so that I could better understand and communicate with members of the Latino community. One of the things we first discovered in the city council was the fact that the police were arresting Latinos without reading them their rights, in direct violation of the Miranda decision. So if someone didn't speak English, they didn't have any rights. The police didn't understand that even if people couldn't speak English, it didn't mean that those people shouldn't have rights. So I was responsible for causing the Cleveland Police to have to learn the Miranda rights in Spanish and carry a card with them.

Now the people in the Administration of George Bush better remember their Miranda rights, because when I'm elected President I'm going to see that they are arrested. I'm not kidding here! I want to let you to know something; how I feel about what's happened to our country. We have been led into a war based upon lies -- an unjust a war. We've seen our civil liberties taken away because of lies. The President, the Vice President, the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of Defense are all part of this. They're going to be held accountable under the law. If someone runs a traffic light, they'll get a ticket here. There are a million dead Iraqis and almost 4,000 dead American soldiers as a result of this war. Where is the accountability? What's happened is that our constitution is being torn up. And in this toxic environment, the Administration, in its never-ending quest for more scapegoats, focuses on immigrants. You know it and I know it. And we see, unfortunately, the failure of the Democratic Party to stand up to this Administration.

..more..


Dennis Kucinich, what do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nymgo3-G-BE


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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:51 PM
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39. K&R to the OP and post #2.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:16 AM
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3. K&R nt
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:18 AM
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4. kcik
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:38 AM
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5. What Attorney General?
This is an amazing statement by Gore - I'm very appreciative of his willingness to express these views.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:48 AM
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7. speech was january 2006. I believe that's Gonzo. n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:29 AM
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10. Didn't catch that - thanks! And think of how much worse it's gotten since then! nt
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:58 AM
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13. well I'd like to think that since congress took over and Rove and Gonzo resigned,
some of this crap is on hold, but I guess that's wishful thinking.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:39 AM
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31. Thus far, anyway. nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:45 AM
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6. "Make my day, Albert!"

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Perseid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:51 AM
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8. I love Gore, but
talk and action are not the same. Sure, it's nice to "educate" those of us who are willing to listen, but it doesn't change anything that has happened, or is happening in this country.

There are a lot of great talking democrats, but I have yet to see one actually accomplish anything. Actions speak louder than words - my momma said.

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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 01:58 AM
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9. he is not in a position to do any more than talk about it.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:04 AM
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29. Several years outside of Washington does wonders for one's courage and vision.
Can anyone not agree that Gore has reinvented himself for the better?
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:01 PM
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35. actually
he could run for President. That would put him in a position to do more than talk...

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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 04:06 AM
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12. Considering how many people aren't paying attention, I'd say educating is important
OF course it would be nice to see Congress do something about it too
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:03 PM
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38. You apparently missed part of the point
that it is our duty - all of America - to see that things change. As the document says, "We the People" are the power behind the government, and I'm starting to think we've forgotten that.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:44 AM
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11. That Is Putting It Mildly
Hell yes, treason and murder are quite serious.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:01 AM
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14. BTW, I have a DVD of this speech if anyone wants a copy. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:03 AM
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15. So why can't nancy pelosi
see it? Does Al Gore need to tutor her personally?
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:04 AM
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16. my opinion, she's got skeletons in her closet.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:05 AM
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17. Yep. That's it in a nutshell. They will expose her. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:24 AM
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19. Then she needs to be
out of government.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:55 AM
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26. if so, she should step down
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:08 AM
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18. Should be front page news, IMO. For a treat, find the series of 2004 speeches
he gave on Abu Ghraib and other outrages. Perhaps I'll post them later....they're on youtube also, I believe. This guy was way ahead of the curve.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:25 AM
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20. All I can say is that I heard Gore give this speech on the radio
one cold January day....I cried because I knew he knew how so many of us feel...it was a huge relief. K&R
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:33 AM
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21. WAR CRIMES: "Over 100 of these captives have reportedly died while being tortured by Executive"
Shackles NOW!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:35 AM
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22. And it's coming out now, they started wiretapping before 9/11.
Last week, for example, Vice President Cheney attempted to defend the Administration’s
eavesdropping on American citizens by saying that if it had conducted this program prior
to 9/11, they would have found out the names of some of the hijackers.

Tragically, he apparently still doesn’t know that the Administration did in fact have the
names of at least 2 of the hijackers well before 9/11 and had available to them
information that could have easily led to the identification of most of the other hijackers.
And yet, because of incompetence in the handling of this information, it was never used
to protect the American people."

Isn't that what AT & T is in trouble for, wanting to seek immunity?

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:21 PM
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36. Please
You think he didn't know? My money is on his being the one who tapped the first wire. As for AT & T, if they didn't do anything wrong, why do they need immunity? And, as it started before 9/11 what was the reason given for them illegally spying on us. Go Dodd!
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:40 AM
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23. Kucinich is the only one RUNNING
That is willing to say this.....
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:52 AM
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24. I agree 100%
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:53 AM
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25. I am supporting DK in the Primary
I know he's a longshot, but it's worth trying.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 03:44 PM
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32. Me too...He is the only one I am sending money to.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 10:57 AM
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27. K&R and bookmarked!
Thanks!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:03 AM
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28. Non-Candidate Gore should organize a series of political concerts and
take the Criminal Regime issue to the widest possible audience, the whole world.

Hopefully, he will fare better than the Kennedys and MLK if he does.
I hope the world has changed enough so that political leaders
REALLY challenging the GOP and the right are no longer murdered.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:37 AM
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30. So Mr. Gore, just what are you going to do about it?
if you are waiting for the American public to wake up, you are sadly mistaken.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:09 PM
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33. And yet, Gore is still against impeachment
I can't figure it out. :shrug:
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:16 PM
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34. I watch this speech ALL the time.
go ahead and call me OCD n shit, but- HE'S THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING THE TRUTH!
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:23 PM
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37. Too bad that the American people on the whole just don' t care
"I endorse the words of Bob Barr, when he said, “The President has dared the American
people to do something about it. For the sake of the Constitution, I hope they will.”

I don't see it happening... so many are too busy expecting certain others to do it for them.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:52 PM
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40. AKA "CRIMES".
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NoGodsNoMasters Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:41 PM
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41. "Over 100 dead from CIA interrogations..."
Thats' a statistic you're not going to find in the papers. Good stuff.
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