Well, crap. Gore adviser: 2008 run is "extremely remote"

[kay1864]

Two Gore advisers, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to share his thinking, said the award will not make it more likely that he will seek the presidency.

If anything, the Peace Prize makes the rough-and-tumble of a presidential race less appealing to Gore, they said, because now he has a huge, international platform to fight global warming and may not want to do anything to diminish it.

One of the advisers said that while Gore is unlikely to rule out a bid in the coming days, the prospects of the former vice president entering the fray in 2008 are "extremely remote."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/ap_on_re_eu/nobel_peace

But who knows. I myself hope to hear something one way or the other in the next few days.

And I myself think the Oval Office would make one hell of a "huge, international platform". ;)

[Fran Kubelik]

1. Despite myself, I still try to read some hope into that.

:(

[kay1864]

4. It definitely makes one wonder

It seems like they wouldn't be speaking at all without his OK. But who knows.

It is a bit odd that they didn't repeat the official "he hasn't ruled anything out" phrase.

[Horse with no Name]

2. "unknown sources"

"alleged advisors"...
There are LOTS of folks out there that don't want him to jump in the race and would love NOTHING better than to kill the momentum that is stirring in America.
If they had the authority to speak FOR him, they wouldn't have to be anonymous.
Thus...their opinions are worthless.

[kay1864]

6. Neither of those phrases appear in the article, you know

They were identified as "Gore advisers". Most reporters verify that sort of thing, even if the reporter agrees to not identify them by name.

[Horse with no Name]

10. they appear in 100's of articles just like this one

all with the sole purpose of convincing us that he will not run.
However, nobody ever says who they are...
"some people might say" that the reporters are full of shit.
But aside from that...you STILL have faith in the press verifying what they print?:rofl:

[kay1864]

13. 100's of articles, you say? Please cite one.

[Horse with no Name]

14. Google them yourself.

I have read many about "unnamed" sources. You probably have to but choose to be pedantic.

[kay1864]

16. Your claim, not mine

Ain't gonna do your research for you. Heck, you say there are hundreds, wouldn't take a second for you to find just one.

[Horse with no Name]

19. nice try.

Not my research. You want it...you get it.
I'm tired of the misinformation propagandists. They seem to be "everywhere".
I did notice you didn't choose to answer my question if you still trusted the MSM to verify sources?:rofl:

[kay1864]

20. You claim it, you back it up.

Empty words, otherwise.

[Horse with no Name]

21. 16,300 hits on google for "Al Gore" "unnamed sources"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=MnL&q=%22al+Gore%22%22unnamed+sources%22&btnG=Search
Now shoo...

[kay1864]

24. Were any of those called "Gore advisers"?

If not, comparing the two makes zero sense.

[Horse with no Name]

26. ..........

can't stand it, can ya?:rofl:
Neener Neener Neener.
Your article is as full of bullshit with it's "unnamed advisors" as all of these articles with their "unnamed sources".
You must be in a world of hurt today knowing that he MIGHT run. :rofl:

[kay1864]

28. You must be in a world of hurt with that reading comprehension problem

Read my OP, will ya? ALLL the way to the bottom.

Sheesh.

[JuniperLea]

42. hahahahahahaha!

And then read all your posts defending the article... hahahahah! Yeah, read to the bottom... sheesh, indeed!

[JuniperLea]

41. OH GOOD GOD!

Anonymous sources tell the PRESS something, and you are willing to swallow it, hook, line and sinker? Drink Kool-Aid much?

[JuniperLea]

38. So true!

I'm so shocked to see allegedly progressive DU posters so willing to swallow this crap! Unnamed, unidentified, anonymous... plus the press... equals total bullshit afaic!

[flvegan]

3. Nowhere in there do I read "he is not running"

I'm curious as to why he hasn't just come out and said he's not going to.

[mmonk]

11. Good point and question.

[kay1864]

15. Agreed. But it is a point on the side of "not running"

And it is indeed odd that he has not announced. Except that if he WERE to run, this is the smart approach, to get essentially free media coverage, and conserve his eventual campaign funds instead of spending them over the summer.

[JuniperLea]

39. Exactomundo!

This play on words has been going on for MONTHS! If he had truly decided NOT to run, I have no doubt whatsoever that he would have come out and emphatically said... I am NOT going to run for president in the 2008 election! Absolutely NOT going to run. Will NOT run.

He's no fool.

The deal is, Hillary supporters here are shaking in their boots. They see the writing on the wall and still stir the Kool-Aid.

[saracat]

5. And exactly who are these "unnamed " advisers? You believe this crap?

Who puts this out Murdoch? This is suspiciously like the Gore says" Hillary is unstoppable " story. Also had no sources and not true.

[kay1864]

8. I believe they are in fact Gore advisers unless you have evidence otherwise

See my reply above.

[saracat]

17. "Two Gore advisers, speaking on condition of anonymity" gives me NO

evidence the ARE Gore advisors or that they even exist.

[kay1864]

22. Yes the AP source must have made them up out of thin air

Yeah, that's it.

:eyes:

[saracat]

30. And you think they don't ? Wow. You don't know any journalists do you?

[kay1864]

31. I know several, actually. How many do you know?

The ones I know actually have standards and take pride in their work. How many do you know personally? Do they make up sources?

[saracat]

33. Lots.I work with them. And yes some do.

[kay1864]

34. Really? Do you call them on that?

Or report them? I would, they're demeaning the others who don't.

Are you a journalist yourself?

[saracat]

36. I have worked as a journalist but I wouldn't consider myself an "official journalist" as that wasn't

my major in college. I do television interviews with political figures and political commentary.Mostly one find out about this stuff after the fact and it is tough to call people on the "some say" stuff.That is the problem with FOX.

[kay1864]

37. Okay, but

"some say" isn't quite the same as having knowledge that sources are actually being made up out of thin air.

"There are those that say" or "some say" are reflective of opinions heard. Inventing actual sources and quotes, is something else altogether, and reportable.

[saracat]

43. But the point is, you can't "prove it'. Because they do not HAVE to

release the name of an anonymous contact. What can someone say when it is reported? This journalist doesn't have a source? They reply, "I do" and the story is ended,seriously. Most journalist do actually have sources.I am not saying they don't but I never automatically believe anything that is anonymously sourced.Many times the reason for that is just to "plant" a story, otherwise, they would be authorized to speak and would give their names.At least that has been true in my experience.

[kay1864]

44. "Most journalist do actually have sources"

I'm glad we agree that they do exist, anonymous or not.

[Horse with no Name]

23. but kay believes it

or otherwise he is attempting to spread misinformation...

[kay1864]

25. Yeah, that MUST be my motive

It's all over my OP :eyes:

[bdamomma]

7. as much as we would like him to run, let the man make up his

own mind. He has so many choices to make.

[MiniMe]

9. Per the CNN Story:

A source involved in Gore's past political runs told CNN that he definitely has the ambition to use the peace prize as a springboard to run for president.

But he will not run, because he won't take on the political machine assembled by Sen. Hillary Clinton, said the source. If the senator from New York had faltered at all, Gore would take a serious look at entering the race, the source said. But Gore has calculated that Clinton is unstoppable, according to the source.

Gore repeatedly denied he has any plans to run again, but this week a group of grass-roots Democrats calling themselves "Draft Gore" took out a full-page ad in The New York Times in a bid to change his mind.

"Your country needs you now, as do your party, and the planet you are fighting so hard to save," the group said in an open letter.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/12/nobel.gore/index.html

[mod mom]

12. CNN=misinformation + propaganda. They want HRC because she is the only chance

of a GOP victory/theft

[saracat]

18. Yup.

[redqueen]

40. "a source involved in Gore's past" & anonymous advisers...

Yeeeeeeaaah...

:boring:

[marlakay]

27. I hope the comment about Hillary

spurs him to run...

[Ravy]

29. The day Arnold appeared on the Tonight Show, many of his staffers were

saying he was not going to run.

[crispini]

32. Really? Hahahahaha.

I, personally, hope that if Mr. Gore does not run, he will at least ENDORSE....

[JackRiddler]

35. Why anyone knows Gore...

has nothing to do with the soundness of his powerpoint presentation, and everything to do with his career as senator, VP and winner of the 2000 popular vote for president. It's clear how he got his platform in the first place, and where the power to actually change things lies.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

45. "Extremely remote" like one in a million?

So you're telling me there's a chance!