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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:36 PM
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Telegraph - "Al Gore's 'nine Inconvenient Untruths'"
Can somebody help me debunk this, please?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/10/11/scigore111.xml



The nine alleged errors in the film

Mr Gore claims that a sea-level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by melting of either West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future". The judge said: "This is distinctly alarmist and part of Mr Gore's "wake-up call". He agreed that if Greenland melted it would release this amount of water - "but only after, and over, millennia"."The Armageddon scenario he predicts, insofar as it suggests that sea level rises of seven metres might occur in the immediate future, is not in line with the scientific consensus."


The film claims that low-lying inhabited Pacific atolls "are being inundated because of anthropogenic global warming" but the judge ruled there was no evidence of any evacuation having yet happened.


The documentary speaks of global warming "shutting down the Ocean Conveyor" - the process by which the Gulf Stream is carried over the North Atlantic to western Europe. Citing the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the judge said that it was "very unlikely" that the Ocean Conveyor, also known as the Meridional Overturning Circulation, would shut down in the future, though it might slow down.


Mr Gore claims that two graphs, one plotting a rise in C02 and the other the rise in temperature over a period of 650,000 years, showed "an exact fit". The judge said that, although there was general scientific agreement that there was a connection, "the two graphs do not establish what Mr Gore asserts".


Mr Gore says the disappearance of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro was directly attributable to global warming, but the judge ruled that it scientists have not established that the recession of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro is primarily attributable to human-induced climate change.



Or if it has been covered somewhere, is there a link?

Thanks.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:40 PM
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1. yay lets play parsing Gore
starring: bearded Gore, and Earthtones Gore.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:41 PM
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2. Poorly written comedy, right?
I still can't figure out what this mash up is?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:50 PM
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3. LOL, to condense what the Judge said....
I don't believe in global warming so I will put forward opinions from the anti-global warming faction as the reason for my decision.

I would very much like to see the Judge's written opinion where he has cited the factual data he used to come to his decision. I think, if he did provide the "data", the authors of such "data" would be worth googling.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:28 PM
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7. Agreed...sounds like the judge had a personal axe to grind...
Edited on Thu Oct-11-07 02:33 PM by truebrit71
..how the hell would HE know that the Atlantic currents won't shut down as salinity decreases...from his extensive research done behind the bench? Gimme a break...

This judge is inserting his own beliefs in his ruling about a film based on scientific data?

Idiot.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:55 PM
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4. Better stick to the law, Mr. Wizard.
Mr Gore says the disappearance of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro was directly attributable to global warming, but the judge ruled that scientists have not established that the recession of snow on Mt Kilimanjaro is primarily attributable to human-induced climate change.


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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:25 PM
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5. some discussion here, see two links in OP ...
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:28 PM
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6. 'mind if I don't recommend this?
I'd rather see a short list of anything that Bush has said in six years that have any semblance of truth
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 02:29 PM
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8. Geographical news from Wikipedia:
"According to the South Pacific Regional Environment Program, two small uninhabited Kiribati islets, Tebua Tarawa and Abanuea, disappeared underwater in 1999. The islet of Tepuka Savilivili (Tuvalu; not a Gilbertese name) no longer has any coconut trees due to salination. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicts that sea levels will rise by about half a meter (20 in) by 2100 due to global warming and a further rise would be inevitable. It is thus likely that within a century the nation's arable land will become subject to increased soil salination and will be largely submerged."

Here's the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati

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