I've never seen this tinfoil theory here...

[tk2kewl]

but does anyone other than me suppose that had Al Gore been elected with neocon Lieberman as veep, the PNACers would have still made sure they got their wars, ala JFK?

Looking back on things I think it's quite possible and I'm glad we still have Al around.

[bryant69]

1. I don't know - I think that's a bit of a smear on Johnson though

Who was far from perfect I admit.

Bryant
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[Horse with no Name]

13. There is a pretty good theory coming round

that Johnson was involved in the assassination of Kennedy in order to serve the war agenda.

[bryant69]

16. I don't buy that at all

But people are always coming up with theories, I suppose.

Bryant

[tk2kewl]

19. well, yo do have to wonder why Johnson ordered the car

immediately cleaned and overhauled.

[Horse with no Name]

20. Wasn't he also the one that ordered the change in route?

that was against Secret Service protocol?
And then there is the matter of his mistress who said that he met the night before with Nixon, Bush and someone else and said the problem would be gone tomorrow?

[RaleighNCDUer]

29. I never thought Johnson had anything to do with the JFK hit -

but he benefitted from other peoples' machinations. By the 80s I decided it was primarily the Hunt brothers and Bushco, and they were maneuvering to get Nixon in after they thought JFK had stolen the election from him. Also, that Vietnam was all about deposing the Dems so that Nixon would be elected in 64, but Goldwater screwed that up for them, so they had to settle for '68.

I have tinfoil hats in all shapes and sizes.

ON EDIT:

And Thanks! to the donors of my hearts.

:hug: :grouphug:

[CJCRANE]

2. Imagine Lieberman a heartbeat away

from the Presidency...

:scared:

[RoBear]

4. Aaaaaiiiiiiiieeeee!

Just the thought makes me go running down the hall screaming!

[sallyseven]

30. God must have watched out for us.

[LongTomH]

3. Pass the Tinfoil!

I've thought that for a long time! These people would stop at nothing!:grr:

[NYCGirl]

5. You'd have to assume that Al Gore would be a puppet like GWB and Lieberman

would pull the strings like Cheney. I don't buy it.

[tk2kewl]

7. I meant that the shadow government would have Al done in

so that Lieberman would get the job

[NYCGirl]

11. Too much tinfoil. Lieberman wasn't even the same guy in 2000. And are there

lots of Democrats signing on to PNAC?

[RaleighNCDUer]

23. Lots of Democrats? No. But Lieberman?

Not a signatory, but he's always been there in spirit. And he's the same guy now as he was then - just then, people didn't know it.

[salin]

6. Afghanistan yes, Iraq, no.

[tk2kewl]

10. Al would have gone into Afghanistan, but ...

I was referring to a PNAC orchestrated assassination

[salin]

21. yikes!

So horrible of a thought, that the suggestion in your OP totally passed me by.

[ellacott]

8. I don't think they would have gotten their war

Al Gore would have had to deal with the Repub controlled legislature. They would roll over for a Democrat and the Democrats would not go along just because he's a democrat.

[BuyingThyme]

9. NOTHING tinfoil about that.

They did it with JFK. They did it with RFK before he even got in. They tried another method with Clinton.

Pass the tinfoil to the people who think otherwise.

[tk2kewl]

12. strange...

a number of posters in this thread didn't even get my reference

[BuyingThyme]

18. And I forgot the October Surprise.

[RaleighNCDUer]

24. I got it.

but then, paranoia is my middle name.

(Not really, but I'm not gonna tell YOU what it is -- I don't know you!)

[tk2kewl]

25. In hind sight it seems almost a certainty to me

Now I want to see Gore as the guy that saves the day.

[RaleighNCDUer]

28. Yep. He's someone I could be enthusiastic about.

I wasn't, in 2000, but not disappointed either (except by his not getting it). The current crop gets my support between grudging to cautiously optimistic, but Al stands head and shoulders above the pack. Too bad he's not running.

[peacetalksforall]

14. When I read anything about 2000 these days - I am filled with wonder

about the strategy of the DLC. I believe Gore listened to them to his downfall. I believe Leiberman was picked for Gore by the DLC.

I am extremely uncomfortable about the DLC.

[tk2kewl]

15. yep...

I thought Lieberman was a curious choice and must have been chose by someone other than Gore.

[peacetalksforall]

22. I remember being so happy about the choice because it broke

the religion barrier. I thought his wife was terrific. I had some misgivings about Leiberman and his votes, but I didn't follow him closely AND I THOUGHT I MUST BE WRONG if Gore picked him. I was ticked about his uppity-moralistic, superior put-down and non-support of Clinton. But I was generally enthusiastic about the choice.

How far I've come in this decade so far.


I really didn't start distructing them (the DLC) and worse until they just picked Kerry overnight. It was so abrupt.

On the other hand, I've been utterly shocked about their lackluster performances on tv for years. I've never watched so many DLC people say nothing important and nothing that would upset any apple carts for anyone. I am apalled at the opportunities that were missed and the more than milquetoast comebacks.

I now want to say I despise them. They support war helpers.

[Z_I_Peevey]

27. I was just like you.

At the time, I thought Holy Joe was a decent enough chap. My, how things have changed.

[mnhtnbb]

17. Remember, John Kerry and John Edwards were the other two VP choices on Al's short list.

[samq79]

26. I didn't actually know that, but...

either of them would have been far superior to Joe in almost every way.

[mnhtnbb]

31. Elizabeth writes about that time in her memoir, "Saving Graces".

And frankly, I think that contributed to Kerry and Edwards (along with Gephardt and Pelosi) ganging up on Dean after Gore endorsed Dean for 04. It was phenomenal to see that Gore bypassed ALL three of his VP picks--not just Lieberman--in endorsing Dean.

[Trailrider1951]

32. Hmmm I've always thought that the reason Big Al

didn't fight for his 2000 victory was that someone sent him a clear copy of the Zapruder film in a plain brown wrapper..............how's that for tinfoil!

[Flying Dream Blues]

33. The scariest part of this post is realizing how easy it is

to believe. Before this round of the BFEE, which has taken the evil and corruption and put it up front and center, I never could have believed (even if it was true) that this could happen in this country.