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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:04 PM
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Have you read the October Harper's yet? "GENERAL STRIKE"
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/10/0081720


The question we need to ask ourselves at this moment is what further provocations we require to justify digging in our heels. To put the question more pointedly: Are we willing to wait until the next presidential election, or for some interim congressional conversion experience, knowing that if we do wait, hundreds of our sons and daughters will be needlessly destroyed?

***

It is one thing to endure abuses and to carry on in spite of them. It is quite another thing to carry on to the point of abetting the abuse. We need to move the discussion of our nation’s health to the emergency room. We need to tell the doctors of the body politic that the treatment isn’t working—and that until it changes radically for the better, neither are we.

***

An Election Day general strike would set our remembrance of those people free from the sarcophagi of rhetoric and rationalization. It would be the political equivalent of raising them from the dead. It would be a clear if sadly delayed message of solidarity to those voters in Ohio and Florida who were pretty much told they could drop dead.

***

In 1943 the Danes managed to save 7,200 of their 7,800 Jewish neighbors from the Gestapo. They had no blogs, no television, no text messaging—and very little time to prepare. They passed their apartment keys to the hunted on the streets. They formed convoys to the coast. An ambulance driver set out with a phone book, stopping at any address with a Jewish-sounding name. No GPS for directions. No excuse not to try.



If not me, then who?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:12 PM
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1. Don't expect anyone to show up
More people than I could have believed APPROVE of what's going on...and the rest have mouths to feed, or jail cells to stay out of.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:16 PM
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2. Well, that's part of the point of the article.
Did you read it? He does discuss the chains of responsibility that we're all tied to - our desks, our children, our debts...

It's quite a good read.

Makes me tired of waiting for Washington. Makes me want to stand up.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:36 PM
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10. I like his idea
but he's hopelessly lost in whatever fog the rest of the people are in.

I'm not lost, and I know a day's strike, even if it were the entire country, would do little to wake people up. As he says, "As long as we’re willing to continue fucking ourselves, why should they have any scruples about telling us to smile during the act?"

I'll just have to wait for more people to grasp how far into hell we've gone.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:43 PM
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12. Well, keep telling us, and more will hear.
So, you won't stand up. That's fine. I can't remove the shackles that are tieing you down, but I can encourage you to keep on complaining.

Maybe you won't have to wait as long as you think.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:46 PM
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13. I'm rabble rousing in my area, and I can tell you that the response will be tepid
3 converts...and I'm lucky to have those.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:51 PM
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16. 3 converts that is great! and they produce 3 converts and those 9 each
produce 3 converts...it could become national!!!
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:00 PM
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19. 1 of them is producing converts
but was before anyway- I just gave her better info to preach with.

The other two are silent. Supportive, but understandably silent.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:10 PM
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22. It's a start.
Most people aren't really aware of things like general strikes, so it'll take time to bring them around.

Later, we'll have to work on strikes that are weeks, or even months in length. Infrastructure will have to be organized to support the strikers during extended strikes, but IMHO, that's where we need to go - not just a day strike, but weeks of strikes that will put the big corporations into bankruptcy and bring the government into chaos if they don't change their tune.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:14 PM
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23. How about creating competing industries
and zones where taxes are only paid to local entities, and only for local support and infrastructure?

Sure they'll call it treason and succession...but that would strike to the heart of the problem.

They insist that they are the only game in town. Who told them that was acceptable?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:22 PM
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24. How about your classic underground barter economy?
If you don't want to do business with the corporofascists, organize a shadow economy - normal people, trading goods and services, maybe for money, maybe for barter, completely (or at least mostly) separate from the mainstream economy - that way, you could continue to do things to make a living, but without supporting or giving labor to the mainstream economy when there's a strike.

The fundies already do this - I'll have to search for a couple diaries on Kos that mention it in detail, but they already have their own shadow economy where fundamentalists, Dominionists & Pentecostals can choose to only do business with other "good Christians"

Not that I approve of fundamentalism, but maybe we should steal one of their tactics.

Hare-brained? Maybe, but worth at least talking about...
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:39 PM
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25. Actually a significant turnout for a one day strike
would scare the living shit out of the ruling elites. That, in and of itself, would at least be something to look back on and smile.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:18 PM
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3. . . .or attitudes like yours
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:24 PM
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5. Hehe
I'm actually a nobody. I don't exist. I have no money, a job that sucks, and a sick relative who was poisoned on the job and denied workman's comp due to "pre-existing condition"...and the state tells us we make too much money to qualify for help. Oh, yeah, and SSI insists that she's perfectly fine...and we're going to be evicted if I can't come up with the ridiculous amount of rent being charged in my area.

I'm just here to give you a ground assessment. Don't be surprised if my prediction comes true.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:37 PM
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11. Sorry about the hell you're in. But CFS ( "circular firing squad") posts that reinforce the apathy
are not helpful.

The other side loves it every time they see any evidence of discouragement on our side. Go over to FreeRepublic. They laugh about it. It makes them feel great, like winners. It makes their day.

And that seems to be just fine with you.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:48 PM
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15. If you don't like reality
feel free to tell me not to share it.

I talk about the problems we have in the hopes that they can be addressed.

False hope does not serve the cause- FReepers don't accomplish more by believing that Bush will lead them to the promised land. They just scream louder.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:58 PM
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18. Questionable assessments of reality don't help either.
It's certainly possible to be realistic without damaging others' efforts. You owe them that much.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:46 PM
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27. That's what's wrong with Americans...
"...and the rest have mouths to feed, or jail cells to stay out of."

So did quite a few of the Danes. All of whom could have ended up in the concentration camps themselves. They did what's right. Something Americans for the most seem incapable of doing.
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:02 PM
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30. As a country we seem to have lost our sense of community
and it is the sense of community, of each of us being tied to the others, that makes a community.

A few years ago, there was a book based on a research project that discussed this and noted the decline in such community-based activities as bowling leagues.

Further, and I think explicitly, those in power have focused us on our differences rather than our similarities as a nation (divide and conquer). I bet that the Danes did not perceive such differences in their society.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:23 PM
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4. The sad fact is...
Pogo was right, the enemy truly is us. And I mean everyone on this board,as well as the entire State of Iowa or Timbuktu, New Mexico. WE are You/we are very important to the universe, and so all those others out their should 'make it happen!' for us, our every little whine and whimper should be immediately satisfied. And I will give pretty good odds these self-same professinal do-nothing whiners will attack the messenger of this thought forthwith....screw-em! The truth will out, even if it doesn't win out all the time.
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:27 PM
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6. It will be as successful as this one
http://www.strike911.org/

Did anyone participate?
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:27 PM
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7. K&R
BTW - I didn't know that about the Danes. Thanks for posting this.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:34 PM
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9. Lois Lowry
wrote a children's book called Number the Stars. It is a fictional account of the evacuation of the Danish Jews. It is a very moving story, even for adults.

Find it in a library if you can.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:33 PM
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8. This made me want to cry:
"An ambulance driver set out with a phone book, stopping at any address with a Jewish-sounding name. No GPS for directions. No excuse not to try."
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:48 PM
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14. "No excuse not to try."
:cry:
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:57 PM
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17. I really want to do this.
This country needs a general strike.

Today's Friday Mojo thread on Daily Kos suggested that instead of election day, the general strike be held on Black Friday (you know, the Friday after Thanksgiving that's the biggest shopping day of the year,) to maximize the economic impact on the big corporations.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:03 PM
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20. Fantastic article and a plug for Garret's books
He's an amazing writer. He wrote 'A Dresser of Sycamore Trees', 'No Place But Here', 'The God of Beer' (for young adults) amd 'Help: The Original Human Dilemma'.

He's from my neck of the woods, and the first two are semi-autobiographical about being a minister and teacher in the Northeast Kingdom.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:07 PM
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21. I think Harper's is an amazing service for readers and writers.
It completely changed my perspective on writers and the state of craft today.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:50 PM
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29. It has THE BEST FICTION
around, bar none!
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:38 PM
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26. Harper's Magazine: Specific suggestion: General strike
Specific suggestion: General strike


By Garret Keizer
Harper's Magazine

October 2007 Issue



Of all the various depredations of the Bush regime, none has been so thorough as its plundering of hope. Iraq will recover sooner. What was supposed to have been the crux of our foreign policy—a shock-and-awe tutorial on the utter futility of any opposition to the whims of American power—has achieved its greatest and perhaps its only lasting success in the American soul. .....
If someone were to suggest, for example, that we begin a general strike on Election Day, November 6, 2007, for the sole purpose of removing this regime from power, how readily and with what well-practiced assurance would you find yourself producing the words “It won’t do any good”? Plausible and even courageous in the mouth of a patient who knows he’s going to die, the sentiment fits equally well in the heart of a citizen-ry that believes it is already dead. .....
Any strike, whether it happens in a factory, a nation, or a marriage, amounts to a reaffirmation of consent. The strikers remind their overlords—and, equally important, themselves—that the seemingly perpetual machinery of daily life has an off switch as well as an on.


.....

The question we need to ask ourselves at this moment is what further provocations we require to justify digging in our heels. To put the question more pointedly: Are we willing to wait until the next presidential election, or for some interim congressional conversion experience, knowing that if we do wait, hundreds of our sons and daughters will be needlessly destroyed? .....
A young man goes to Walter Reed without a face. Shall I make an appointment with my barber? A female prisoner is sodomized at Abu Ghraib. Shall I send a check to the Clinton campaign? .....
It is one thing to endure abuses and to carry on in spite of them. It is quite another thing to carry on to the point of abetting the abuse. We need to move the discussion of our nation’s health to the emergency room. We need to tell the doctors of the body politic that the treatment isn’t working—and that until it changes radically for the better, neither are we.


.....

It is time for us to make a public profession of faith that the people who went to work that morning, who caught the cabs and rode the elevators and later jumped to their deaths, were not on the whole people who would sanction extraordinary rendition, preemptive war, and the suspension of habeas corpus; that in their heels and suits they were at least as decent as any sneaker-shod person standing vigil outside a post office with a stop the war sign. That the government workers who died in the Pentagon were not by some strange congenital fluke more obtuse than the high-ranking officers who thought the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea from the get-go. That the passengers who rushed the hijackers on Flight 93 were not repeating the mantra “It won’t do any good” while scratching their heads and their asses in a happy-hour funk.

An Election Day general strike would set our remembrance of those people free from the sarcophagi of rhetoric and rationalization. It would be the political equivalent of raising them from the dead. It would be a clear if sadly delayed message of solidarity to those voters in Ohio and Florida who were pretty much told they could drop dead. .....
But how would it work? A curious question to ask given that not working is most of what it would entail. Not working until the president and the shadow president resigned or were impeached. Never mind what happens next. Rather, let our mandarins ask how this came to happen in the first place. Let them ask in shock and awe.
People who could not, for whatever reason, cease work could at least curtail consumption. In fact, that might prove the more effective action of the two. They could vacate the shopping malls. They could cancel their flights. With the aid of their Higher Power, they could turn off their cell phones. They could unplug their TVs.


.....

Ironically, the segment of the population most unable to participate would be the troops stationed in the Middle East. Striking in their circumstances would amount to suicide. That distinction alone ought to suffice as a reason to strike, as a reminder of the unconscionable underside of our “normal” existence. We get on with our lives, they get on with their deaths. .....
In 1943 the Danes managed to save 7,200 of their 7,800 Jewish neighbors from the Gestapo. They had no blogs, no television, no text messaging—and very little time to prepare. They passed their apartment keys to the hunted on the streets. They formed convoys to the coast. An ambulance driver set out with a phone book, stopping at any address with a Jewish-sounding name. No GPS for directions. No excuse not to try. .....
We could hardly be accused of innovation. General strikes have a long and venerable history. They’re as retro as the Bill of Rights. There was one in Great Britain in 1926, in France in 1968, in Ukraine in 2004, in Guinea just this year. Finns do it, Nepalis do it, even people without email do it . . .
But we don’t have to do it, you will say, because “we have a process.” Have or had, the verb remains tentative. In regard to verbs, Dick Cheney showed his superlative talent for le mot juste when in the halls of the U.S. Congress he told Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy to go fuck himself. He has since told congressional investigators to do the same thing. There’s your process.


.....

“United we stand,” isn’t that how it goes? But we are not united, not by a long shot. At this juncture we may be able to unite only in what we will not stand for. The justification of torture, the violation of our privacy, the betrayal of our intelligence operatives, the bankrupting of our commonwealth, the besmirching of our country’s name, the feckless response to natural disaster, the dictatorial inflation of executive power, the senseless butchery of our youth—if these do not constitute a common ground for intolerance, what does?
People were indignant at the findings of the 9/11 Commission—it seems there were compelling reasons to believe an attack was imminent!—yet for the attack on our Constitution we have evidence even more compelling. How can we criticize an administration for failing to act in the face of a probable threat given our own refusal to act in the face of a threat already fulfilled? As long as we’re willing to go on with our business, Bush and Cheney will feel free to go on with their coup.


.....

How much better if we could say to our next administration: Don’t talk about Bush. We dealt with Bush. We dealt with Bush and in so doing we demonstrated our ability to deal with you. You have a mandate more rigorous than looking good beside Bush. You need a program more ambitious than “uniting the country.” We are united—at least we were, if only for a while, if only in our disgust. .....

I wrote this appeal during the days leading up to the Fourth of July. I wrote it because for the past six and a half years I have heard the people I love best—family members, friends, former students and parishioners—saying, “I’m sick over what’s happening to our country, but I just don’t know what to do.” Might I be pardoned if, fearing civil disorder less than I fear civil despair, I said, “Well, we could do this.” It has been done before and we could do this. And I do believe we could. If anyone has a better idea, I’m keen to hear it. Only don’t tell me what some presidential hopeful ought to do someday. Tell me what the people who have nearly lost their hope can do right now.




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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:14 PM
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31. What did you think?
Thanks for the clips, btw.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 09:48 AM
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32. An ongoing, national strike until Bush/Cheney are impeached and convicted, or they resign
I wholeheartedly agree.


If our so-called representatives won't cut off the money that enables this Bush/Cheney coup, We The People should.

This article lays it out very clearly how people can strike. Only one suggestion I have is to start immediately. Word will spread, and more and more people will get on board.

I think it is important to state that a national strike shouldn't be limited to one day. It should be ongoing, to force these criminals from power.


The way things are looking now, we don't have one moment to waste.



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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 02:31 PM
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33. I'm so glad to hear that. We can all strike in ways both large and small.
As long as it starts, and continues until the end.

We have to strike back.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:49 PM
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28. this is the only way--stop participating
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