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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:33 PM
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Thirty two ***HUNDRED**** miners trapped in South Africa?????
I can't even conceive of this. Just on MSNBC at the half hour news break.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:34 PM
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1. A cable broke on the elevator
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:34 PM
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2. wanna bet they're not caucasians?
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 05:43 PM by spanone
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:46 PM
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5. Uh, about 95% OF THE WHOLE COUNTRY is non-Caucasian, in case you didn't know.
Why bring race into this discussion? The miners who died in Utah were white.

What's your point?

Redstone
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:47 PM
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7.  white folks own south africa, they don't go in mines....
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:51 PM
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8. so....they can import whitey to work the mines?
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 05:53 PM by ProdigalJunkMail
or better yet, shut them down so no one has a job? i would be willing to bet (to use some of YOUR verbiage) that if they did try either of those two tactics, there would be riots...

sP

OnEdit : it is a publicly traded company that owns the mine...you got a stock fund somewhere??? YOU MIGHT BE THE 'OWNER'...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:53 PM
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9. hey pal, just made a point and it's true. whitey is not a nice term.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:54 PM
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10. whaaa...whitey offends you?
you try to make the issue about race and then get pissy on the terms? what a laugh riot you are...

it's a publicly traded company...YOU could own shares...but then you would be an oppressor at that point, yes?

sP
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:02 PM
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11. Given the history in South Africa, it is not surprising that this has racial implications.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:08 PM
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12. so...the suggestion is if it was 'caucasians' down the hole
things would be different somehow? baloney...

sP
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:52 PM
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13. A lot of my wife's family is in South Africa. I'll bet I know a whole bunch more
about what things are like there than you do, so your uninformed attempt at turning this into a racial issue is a non-starter, at least with me.

And yes, my wife is half African, so I do have a dog in the racism fight.

Redstone
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:47 PM
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6. let's see...given the demographics of south africa...
what the fuck does that have to do with anything? can't they just be people that are trapped? nope...they have to be something else...

fucking pitiful...

sP
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:42 PM
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3. Now THERE'S a job fer ya.
7,000 feet underground with a few thousand guys.

And the lift breaks down.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:42 PM
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4. A gold mine IIRC. nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:59 PM
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14. Wish it was 200 - it's more than 3,000!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7027122.stm
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More than 3,000 workers are trapped deep underground in a South African gold mine, officials have said.

A pipe broke, severing power cables to the lift and trapping workers at the bottom of a 2.2km (1.4 mile) shaft.

Rescuers are planning to use an adjacent shaft to lift them out, a spokeswoman for the mine's owner, Harmony Gold Mining, said.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:19 PM
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15. Cry, the Beloved Country.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:26 PM
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16. This is not a huge story, insofar as there will probably be no loss of life.
The main elevator is disabled. A bad time for those involved, no doubt, but it's not like a cave-in or explosion. There's air, food, water, power, phones, etc.

They need to bring everybody up a different shaft using a saller elevator, so it will take a long time, but the media's use of "trapped" is a little alarmist. I think "stuck" or "stranded" would convey the situation better.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:32 PM
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17. Harmony Gold, Barrick Corporation and Cynthia McKinney
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 07:36 PM by seemslikeadream
Barrick boosts Russian exposure
The 31.7% stake in Alternative Investment Market-listed Highland Gold, formerly Harmony Gold, has been picked up by Barrick Gold and an international group of institutional investors.

Barrick has acquired 10% of the equity from the placing and Highland Gold has also conditionally agreed to issue a further 29.58 million shares at the placement price of 235p per share.

This would give Barrick in total 29% stake in Highland Gold

"This agreement with Barrick marks a new phase in the progress of Highland Gold and we are excited about the prospects of developing a relationship with them in Russia."
http://www.miningnews.net/storyview.asp?storyid=19417


Barrick Corporation and Cynthia McKinney

The real reason McKinney was trashed.

Was Barrick Gold Mining funding both sides of a civil war and perpetuating that bloody conflict?

Top human rights investigators had evidence that a mine bought by Barrick in 1999 had in clearing their Tanzanian property three years earlier bulldozed mine shafts burying 50 miners alive.

Tundu Lissu was one of those investigators and McKinney was trying to save his life.

Only one Congressperson demanded hearings on the matter.
In 2001 Cynthia McKinney convened a special congressional panel to explore the role of US covert forces and private interest in Central Africa.

But maybe ther was another reason Andrew Young and Vernon Jordan let McKinney swing, Remember Barrick? Did I mention to you that Andy Young and Vernon Jordan are both on Barrick's payroll? Well, I just did.
http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/unitedstates/de ... ...


War is Golden for the Bush Administration
Posted by seemslikeadream on Fri Mar-11-05 07:34 PM

After George Bush Senior left the White House, he became an advisor and lobbyist for a Canadian gold-mining company, Barrick Gold. Hey, a guy’s got to work. But there were a couple of questions about Barrick, to say the least. For example, was Barrick’s Congo gold mine funding both sides of a civil war and perpetuating that bloody conflict? Only one Congressperson demanded hearings on the matter.

You’ve guessed: Cynthia McKinney.

That was covered in the . . . well, it wasn’t covered at all in the U.S. press.

McKinney contacted me at the BBC. She asked if I’d heard of Barrick. Indeed, I had. Top human rights investigators had evidence that a mine that Barrick bought in 1999 had, in clearing their Tanzanian properties three years earlier, bulldozed mine shafts . . . burying about 50 miners alive.

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd02152003.html
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