Do any of you know who Jesse McBeth is?

[booley]

The new spin by Flush and his borg supporters seems to be that he was really calling Jesse Mcbeth a phony soldier and not soldiers against the war in general. Which doesn't fit with what he actually said but ..ok). The premise being that the Anti-War people prop up "phony soldiers" like Mcbeth as heroes and believe them over what 'real soldiers" say.

And my first thought was.. who the hell is Jesse Mcbeth?

I watch free speech TV and Democracy now and have seen the documentaries with soldiers from Move on and Iraq Veterans against the War. And of course, I read DU. I have seen a lot of soldiers against the war. But I never heard of Jesse Mcbeth nor was his pic familiar. (I sometimes forget names but rarely faces)

I had to google Jesse Mcbeth to know who he was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Macbeth

So am I right in thinking that when Flush and the Dittoheads say that we are taking Flush out of context because he was talking about McBeth. that they are full of shit?

Oh and just FYI, seems Flush has personal experience with believing a phony soldier's lies..

http://mediamatters.org/items/200709270010?offset=0&show=1#comments

Hmm, could it al be another case of projection?

[Heidi]

1. It may be time to resurrect discussion of the pilonidal cyst Rush used to escape Vietnam service.

It's true. It's true!

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.asp

[StClone]

2. Widespread Conservative phenom: Mcbeth Syndrome

Find one example no matter how smaller, out of context, or unknown and trumpet its mere existent against perhaps hundreds of opposite examples to show that indeed its insignificant occurrence is paramount. Blast it out of Rush's ass 24/7, drive it home repeatedly, blare it until every Ditto wanker can recite it chapter and verse and watch it come up as the discussion ender for logic discourse: BUT WHAT ABOUT MAC BETH will be the rebuttal to defend Limbaugh ass.

[NYVet]

3. I followed his case, and Jesse, IMO

is someone who had a true desire to serve his country, and when he was washed out of Basic training, it shook him to the core. He took that as a sign of rejection and ended up wanting to hurt that which he loved.

Frankly speaking, Jesse is an embarrassment, and once he finishes his sentence, he should be forgotten.

[John1956PA]

4. My reaction, too, when I heard the blob on he radio that afternoon.

I was flipping through the stations on my truck radio when I heard Oxy-man yammering about someone I had never heard of before - Jesse McBeth. I, too, spend many hours per week reading DU and other progressive sites, and I had never heard of McBeth. To hear blow-hard tell it, McBeth was a juggernaut for all of on the left. I knew immediately that the whale was employing the tactic which you posters have mentioned - create a straw bogeyman and burn him in effigy for the purpose promoting hate mongering.

This tactic of inciting hate is one which I recognized a few years ago when read the editorial of a religious leader who wrote that members of the left were persecuting judicial nominees who held "deeply held beliefs." In that case, it was Democratic leader who had used, and then backed away from, the "deeply held beliefs" phrase. However, according to the religious leader, a large percentage of us on the left banter about that phrase in mantra-like fashion in order identify in code those judicial nominees who do not measure up to our liberal standards.

The demonization of the left will continue because there will always be highly-paid puppets who hold platforms and who have no sense of guilt from knowingly distorting the facts.