I heard evil on NPR this morning--Norman Podhoritz. Folks, we need to fight the neocons

[Skidmore]

and drive them out. That man was pure evil. He was being inteviewed in "On Point" with Tom Ashbrook who was attempting to discuss Podhoritz's new book on World War IV, which he is actively working to gin up. He is also serving as an advisor to Guiliani, his new annointed. This is the website about that broadcast, and you can listen online.

http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2007/09/20070926_a_main.asp

Folks, we seriously need to not get fragmented on this war. We cannot allow these people to succeeed. This man is insane and * sounds absolutely rational presenting this philsophy when compared to Podhoritz.

[babylonsister]

1. That's the man who has *'s ear- birds of a feather:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1890827

[stellanoir]

2. I listen to Ashbrook almost every single day but for some reason, I checked

the scheduled subject matter on the website earlier today, took one look at Podhoritz's mug, read the blurb and thought "fuggetaboutit."

The Coltrane show is much more pleasing.

[Skidmore]

3. We should also listen to this. This is what we are fighting, not

that cowardly, incoherent pissant tool in the WH. This is the evil behind the fool on the Hill.

[stellanoir]

5. Maybe I'll stiffen my spine, hide all sharp objects,

and tune in for the later broadcast on your recommendation.

Just was feeling like some lighter fare this morning.

[Mythsaje]

4. WW IV?

I wasn't aware we were up that high quite yet.

[bananas]

6. They consider the Cold War to be WWIII. nt

[Emit]

7. Re: WW IV

~snip~

... One such cosponsored symposium was called “World War IV: Why We Fight, Whom We Fight, How We Fight,” and was held on September 29, 2004. The FDD news release explained: “The Cold War is now being called by some ‘World War III' because it was global, had an ideological basis, involved both military and non-military actions, required skill and the mobilization of extensive resources, and lasted for years. Today's ‘war on terrorism' has the same elements, hence a broader name, ‘World War IV'.” Symposium speakers included prominent neoconservatives Podhoretz, Woolsey, Eliot Cohen, Rachel Ehrenfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz.

~snip~

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/3301

[Mythsaje]

9. So, in other words, they're trying to glorify and promote

the idea that THESE ideological battles are/were the same thing as facing down the territorial aggression of Germany and its allies through military intervention during both REAL world wars?

I don't think they're the same thing at all.

If there's a WWIII, WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones. Or shards of sharpened sheet metal and rusty pipes.

[Emit]

8. Here's some more connections you might be interested in, especially

in light of the Kyl-Lieberman Iran Resolution.

Committee on the Present Danger

Overview

The Committee on the Present Danger (CPD) was resurrected in June 2004 by a largely neoconservative group of 41 members. This is the third incarnation of the committee. In its two previous manifestations, the CPD served as a pressure group, first in 1950 to win public and congressional approval for a post-World War II remilitarization and troop deployment that launched the Cold War, and then again in 1976 by a large group of Cold War hawks who wanted to kill the U.S.-Soviet Union détente and roll back communism rather than continuing the containment strategy that had guided U.S. foreign policy since the 1950s. ... According to the CPD, “Our mission is to educate free people everywhere about the threat posed by global radical Islamist and fascist terrorist movements; to counsel against appeasement of terrorists; to support policies that are part of a strategy of victory against this menace to freedom; and to support policies that encourage the development of civil society and democracy in those regions from which the terrorists emanate.”

~snip~

CPD's slogan is “Fighting Terrorism and the Ideologies That Drive It.”

George Shultz and James Woolsey are the cochairs of CPD's six-member board of directors. Members include Kenneth Adelman, Rachel Ehrenfeld (director of the Israel-focused American Center for Democracy), and Clifford May. William Van Cleave is one of the few members of the current CPD who was also a member of the second CPD. Other members who also belonged to the second incarnation include Max Kampelman, Midge Decter, Norman Podhoretz, and Peter Rosenblatt.

Republican Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona and Democratic Sen. Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut serve as CPD's honorary cochairmen, giving the CPD the appearance of a bipartisan initiative. Like the second CPD, the current CPD is largely a grouping of national security militarists and neoconservatives. Since its founding in mid-2004, the CPD has substantially increased its membership and now includes an international wing.

~snip~

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/3301

[Lasher]

10. We have met the enemy

and he is us.

[bananas]

11. One of the callers said "Judeo-Fascism"

I never heard that term before, pretty good!

[Raksha]

13. It makes me so ashamed that these neocon creeps are Jews!

I can't believe they haven't been excommunicated by now. They demonstrate what Naziism would look like without the anti-Semitism. It would STILL be totally evil.

[Solly Mack]

12. "drive them out" - They seriously need to be

Podhoretz is very dangerous