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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:38 AM Original message |
Why can't GM just fire the striking workers? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. trust me they would love to but thats one of the perks of being a union member |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. One word: Contract. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. But they can just shut the doors. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Do ya think GM big-wigs haven't thought of that? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. I don't know Michigan law, but I don't think it's |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. and Scabs are what they are called for a reason |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yes, we do.... |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Unions helped raise the standard of living for all workers |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I worked at a General Electric plant with an open shop |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. America has benefited from Unions, all of us |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Very true |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. And those things won't just fall back into our laps.. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. You can't fire striking workers in a right to work state either |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. But, companies, as I understand it, can hire |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. Not if they're under contract. |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
27. and as I understand it ... the union will also protect the non-union workers |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Scabs get trouble, Corporate Scabs get BIG trouble |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
5. You should probably pose that question in this forum: |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. Contract, and difficult to replace to the point of being impractical. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. I don't think that's allowed in union shop states |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. The National Labor Relations Act prohibits firing strking workers |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Unless your name is Ronald Reagan. And STILL Blue-collar America loved him. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Technically |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
15. GM may simply off-shore all the work the strikers used to do. |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. true - 350,000 workers in union from GM in late 90's is now only 70,000 as they offshore n/t |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
39. very true |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. Do Some Studying.... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:09 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. wages last 6 years are less than 2000 so pressure is on unions as GM runs off |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. GM Saw This Coming |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I agree - it does feel like the 60's - I have my fingers crossed for the union. n/t |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. If anyone has experience as a new hire or as summer help |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Agreed, this is the line in the sand.. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
22. Here's one reason. |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
23. You'd think certainly after the last 7 years of republican control of the world |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 06:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Why make them illegal when you can quietly make them irrelevant? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
26. would you buy a gm product built by a temp worker? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Would you buy a GM product built by a union worker? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Do Union workers decide on the engineering and design of GM cars? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. yes---- the american worker are the best in the world |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
30. And let the scabs come in for less money, less benefits and more outsourcing. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. It's what summarizes the Republican (and perhaps Libertarian) approach to labor: "There's always |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
41. Solidarity |
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