Did you know that auto workers' health care plans adds a whole $1,000 to the sticker price?

[underpants]

Anyone know what the executive pays adds???

Anyone ever heard that mentioned???

Link to MSM or Fox?

[FreakinDJ]

1. Less then Medicaid

Up front health care cost are still cheaper then back door tax burden for medicaid.

But I think the $1000 fiquare is made up horse shit by some corporate freeper types. Most of the task in auto manufacturing is automated and not that many Man Hrs are used in manufacturing a car.

[The Vinyl Ripper]

5. It's not just the manufacturing of the automobiles..

It's the mining of the raw materials and refining of same.

It's the production of the oil which supplies the energy to actually make the cars.

It's the design work to develop and test prototypes and tooling.

And a myriad other things as well.

The factory floor is really only one small part of producing an automobile.

[flpoljunkie]

2. And why is that? It's because insurance premiums has gone up 78% since 2001.

Premiums rise less than last year's growth pace, but still outpace inflation and worker earnings, survey says.
September 11 2007: 9:32 AM EDT

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Health insurance premiums in 2007 rose 6.1 percent, the lowest growth rate in eight years but still well above inflation and worker earnings, according to the latest annual survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation.

It was the fourth consecutive year of slowing growth and the lowest rate of growth since 1999, when premiums increased 5.3 percent.

Average annual costs
Premiums and levels of worker contributions for family coverage.
Total Premium Worker Contribution
PPO $12,443 $3,236
HMO $11,879 $3,311
Source:Kaiser Family Foundation
Note: PPO is preferred provider organization. HMO is health maintenance organization.

Since 2001, however, premiums for family coverage have increased 78 percent, while wages have gone up 19 percent and inflation has gone up 17 percent.

The number of employers offering health care benefits was essentially unmoved at 60 percent, down from last year's 61 percent.

Employees' annual average cost for single coverage is $4,479 and $12,106 for family coverage. Single workers on average pay $694 of the cost out of their own pockets, while worker contributions for family coverage is $3,281.

According to the survey, 95 percent of firms with 50 or more employees offer health insurance, while smaller firms of 3 - 9 workers are least likely to offer benefits (45 percent).

http://money.cnn.tv/2007/09/11/pf/health_costs_kaiser/index.htm

[underpants]

6. Oh yeah THAT part of the equation

the clear purpose is to imply that it is the workers' fault for *gasp* wanting healthcare when in reality it (if it is real) points to how out of control the subisdized health insurance industry is.

[TahitiNut]

3. Gosh! I wonder what their food and housing adds to the price.

Maybe they should be kept in the stables with the other domestic livestock. :sarcasm:

Sorry ... I know that's nothing close to your position, but that's EXACTLY what I think when right-wingers piss and moan about those "greedy workers" and complain about the costs of their care and feeding.

After all, the cost of a $1 head of lettuce includes $0.10 for the field labor. Horror of horrors they get paid more!!!!
:eyes:

[dsc]

4. That is most probably a correct figure

and is a great argument for nationalized health care. There is no earthly reason so much of the cost of health care should be borne by employers. It, among other things, kills jobs by making us less competative with foreign countries.

[muntrv]

7. Another case for universal health care. Toyota recently set up a plant in Canada

instead of the US because Canada has universal health care, thus Toyota does not have to pay for it.

[BlooInBloo]

8. Heh.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1894712

[smalll]

9. That's a lot! If they get sick, they should just take them out back and shoot them!

Think of the savings that could be passed on to the customer! (:sarcasm: for the impaired.)

[NV Whino]

10. Well, hell, why don't we have gerbils making cars

then we could save a couple of thousand right from the get go. Or better yet, let's move the gerbils into the CEO positions then we could save multiple thousands.