Obama's Fuzzy Math (UPDATED)

[patrioticintellect]

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/eoq3matchee?match_campaign_id=3

Here's the goal: 500,000 donations to this campaign from 350,000 people by midnight on September 30th.

How exactly do 350,000 people make 500,000 donations? Are you requiring people to donate two or three times in this period that's less than a month? Who are these people who support you? Are they financially capable of doing this, Barack? Is this your idea of grassroots funding of a candidate such as yourself?

*******How can you be anti-war when you are committed to 100,000 more troops in Iraq? Yet another instance of fuzzy math.*********************

[H2O Man]

1. If you read

the next sentence, you'll have the answer.

[BlooInBloo]

3. For the pwn.

[patrioticintellect]

13. So Barack is only capable of securing somebody to match 150,000 of the 350,000 donations?

I thought he'd have more corporate and special interest money to match his supporters' donations.

[H2O Man]

18. Guess you were

wrong X2.

[patrioticintellect]

21. No, that's one way of getting "500,000 donations".

:popcorn:

[Kagemusha]

2. You know if you asked nicely, maybe someone would calmly explain.

As it is, even if I made the effort to recall how that math works, I wouldn't reward this kind of petty cheap shot making.

[Bitwit1234]

15. But you more than make up with it on cheap shots at Hillary

boy when the shoe is on the other foot we get testy don't we.

[Kagemusha]

16. Excuse me, which cheap shots would those be?

I've made some comments on this board in response to cheap shots on Obama, but I really don't care for going after Hillary as a candidate, as she is obviously much beloved by Democrats at large. So, I don't know what you're talking about.

[BlooInBloo]

4. Has there ever been a more transparently deceitful thread in the history of DU?

The answer is in the very next sentence, like waterman said.

[MADem]

11. As I said downthread, it is not fuzzy math. It's a way of maximizing impact.

And that's beside the point of the matching contributions.

Make a Donation Now and Double Your Impact
We're facing a hard deadline in less than a week. The financial reports filed after September 30th will set the tone for the last 100 days before people start voting and caucusing.

The numbers will be a signal to voters in the crucial early states that our movement has the support it takes to win.

So let's go.

Here's the goal: 500,000 donations to this campaign from 350,000 people by midnight on September 30th.

If you give right now, someone who has already given to this campaign will match your donation.

[Nickster]

5. "If you give right now, someone who has already given to this campaign will match your donation"

Wow, that was real hard to figure out, he hid it right under the line that you quoted.

[Nimrod2005]

6. ROFLMAO.......nt

[Hobarticus]

7. This dreck, from a Kucinich supporter?!?

Why?

:shrug:

[BlooInBloo]

10. I think less and less of Moonbeam McCrazypants everytime his supporters speak.

[Hobarticus]

12. Sadly, I think that's half the problem...

For all of the platitudes of St. Dennis, it's just politics as usual.

[Nimrod2005]

8. I hope you donate too, someone will match your donation!!!

[MADem]

9. Well, it isn't fuzzy math. It's just a way of getting a half a million donations

from slightly more than a third of a million people. Affording isn't an issue--say, you decide to give the guy twenty bucks. You give him ten bucks, twice.

It's a way of making the impact feel bigger, and when you do that, you can 'grow' your bandwagon of support. Gee, he got HALF A MILLION contributions!!!! Maybe I should contribute, too!!!!!

It's actually clever, though they should have skipped that sentence you cited -- it's clumsy, and makes it obvious what they're trying to do. They'd have been better off getting bloggers and other actors to put the word out in smaller venues.

[patrioticintellect]

14. Manipulation of numbers

You're right. He is a politician. WTF was I thinking?

[MADem]

35. They all do it. Even the 'eschewers' do it by simply eschewing, and playing the

"I'm purer than you are" game.

He's not really manipulating the numbers, he's simply magnifying the momentum. It's a tactic to generate interest and enthusiasm.

Politicians need to get noticed to get their message out. Whatever works for them, I guess.

[patrioticintellect]

22. I was legitimately seeking to understand Obama's system for donations

Let me tell you how Kucinich is handling it.

He has set a goal and asked supporters to help him meet it. There's no 350,000 for 500,000 or 1 million donations divided by 2,000 or 5,000 times 10,000 plus some money from here. No. It's simple. If you can donate, donate.

Richardson on the other hand demands $80 dollars NOW! because he is 800,000 dollars short. And that is what you will give if you support him.

[MADem]

34. Well, isn't DK taking Fed Matching Funds? That's a whole different ballgame, there.

I'm not giving any of them a dime...yet. I'm still making up my mind.

[patrioticintellect]

36. I'm not as knowledgeable on that...

I should be since my candidate believes in that method of campaign finance.

[BlooInBloo]

17. Wow - to have supporters like this, Moonbeam McCrazypants MUST be...

... like the worst person on the planet.

EDIT: Post-goalpost-moving-update post.

[burythehatchet]

20. OK, why attack Kucinich here?

[Hobarticus]

25. The OP's flying a Kucinich avatar...

That's why I brought it up.

[burythehatchet]

27. So why attack Kucinich?

[Hobarticus]

30. I'm not attacking...

I asked, this from another candidate's supporter, and why?

[patrioticintellect]

32. At least my candidate...

...never allowed the disenfranchisement of black voters to go ignored or not remedied.

Look, I realize how it could be seen as cheap but think about this...I just boosted support for Obama! And I knew I was going to! So why throw a cheap shot that involved a link to his donation page? That would be stupid.

I really was seeking to understand his donation plan and not deliver cheap shots until people like you plunged this thread downward to the lowest level possible.

To all Kucinich supporters out there, you tell me that the 350,000/500,000 thing doesn't seem "funny"? Should I expect a report on OpenSecrets.org?

[burythehatchet]

19. JUST SUPPORT YOUR OWN DAMN CANDIDATE

fergodsakes

[Hobarticus]

26. Yeah, the OP should just support Kucinich, his own damn candidate...

instead of half-assed swipes at other candidates.

Good idea, no?

[burythehatchet]

28. Agree wholeheartedly. That was what I said.

[Hobarticus]

31. There ya go.

[WilliamPitt]

23. Yup

It's officially Stupid Time on DU.

Gonna be a long 13 months.

[tammywammy]

24. bwahahahha

Indeed. :rofl:

[burythehatchet]

29. can someone give me a hand up. I slipped and fell in.

[ecstatic]

33. Thanks for using a Bushism to bash Obama

:eyes:

[patrioticintellect]

37. No problem