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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 02:58 PM
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So Why Do We Hate Iran
You know that old saying "Words will never hurt me"
That is all that Amijinidad had been saying.
We know he is a religious dictator
And I dont agree with their human rights issues
But did Iran ever invade and attack another Country to remove its ruler?
Did Iran ever lie to its people prior to an invasion of another Country?

Rhetoric is one thing, but action is another
They dont even have nucular weapons, I would be more afraid of Pakistan
who really has them.
Even if he did have nucular weapons, do you think he would use one, probably knowing
that once he did, his whole Country would be obliterated in return?

Remember when our CIA helped overthrow their government in the 50's and 60's?
Do you remember when Reagan gave Iraq weapons to fight Iran?
Isn't that the same thing as this administration is saying that Iran is doing now?
How could they not 'hate' us if they even did?

Dont get me wrong, he is a dictator, and I dont like their tough religious policies
that discriminate against innocent people, and their non human rights issues,
but all of this hype and the leading up to a so called 'war' with Iran is ridiculous.


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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:03 PM
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1. Because chickenhawk conservative scum need a constant
stream of someone or something to hate. They can now urge on sending other peoples kids to die in Iran so they can approach an erection. You are right my Friend, we have absolutely no reason to go to war with Iran. I would accept the premise on one condition, that only chickenhawks were sent to fight and die in the desert.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:08 PM
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2. I don't 'hate' Iran but I do hate
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 03:15 PM by Breeze54
dictators and a-holes and liars like Bush & Amijinidad

"But did Iran ever invade and attack another Country to remove its ruler?"

I think that's not known totally.


Iran-Iraq War

http://lexicorient.com/e.o/iranirqw.htm

War between Iran and Iraq, lasting from 1980 to 1988.

The background for the war was disagreement about the border between the two countries, stemming back to 1971, when Iran occupied a couple of Iraqi islands in the Persian Gulf near the outlet at Shatt El Arab. Iraq was also objecting to the Islamist propaganda that was transmitted from Iran to Iraq, and Iraq's government feared that there might be a revolution among the Iraqi Shi'is in the south. In 1980 Iraq expected that Iran was weak after the Iranian Revolution, so that Iraq would face little resistance when occupying Iranian territory.
The war produced no advantage for either side during most of the 8 years. However, it resulted in heavy losses on both sides with 600,000 Iranian and 400,000 Iraqis dead, and an estimated total economic loss of 1,2 billion US$. It also brought Saddam Hussein's ambitious plans for developing Iraq to a halt.

During the war, Iraq enlarged its military forces from 250,000 to 1,250,000, and accomodated the infrastructure of the country to the needs of the military. To a large degree, this established the precondition for the next war: the invasion of Kuwait and the military response from the international forces.

HISTORY

1975: Settlement on frontiers between Iran and Iraq that involved increased territory for Iran compared to the borders prior to 1971.

1980 September 22: Iraq invades Iran, and has early victories.

1982: Iraq is driven out of Iran.

1982-87: The war enters a phase in which Iranian soldiers try to invade Iraq, while Iraqi aircraft bombs Iranian cities and oil installations. Both nations started attacking each other's oil tankers on the Persian Gulf, in reciprocal retaliation. Few territorial advances are made on either side.

1987 July 20: Iran accepts a UN resolution to cease fighting.

1988: Peace is achieved between the two countries, even if the fighting actually ceased months earlier.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:09 PM
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3. Because bush needs a new enemy, the Iraq 'terra-ist' is sooo
yesterday and Iraq has already been illegally invaded so a new country is needed.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:09 PM
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4. I think Iran is for peace. We just don't understand them.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:12 PM
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5. They stole our oil
And put it beneath their feet.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:21 PM
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7. Fear & hate are powerful emotions.
In order to get support to attack another country, fear & hate of that country is a great advantage.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:19 PM
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6. Yes, but a common sense and peaceful way of dealing with
them won't give Bush/Cheney their excuse to bomb them and start WWIII. I'm sure this act will start WWIII because according to the PNAC war plan Syria is next and I don't think Syria is going to sit around and wait to be bombed and invaded once we commit an act of agression in Iran. I think many countries in the ME who are supposedly our allies aren't going to let Amurika get further down the road with our plan to get all the oil rich ME countries under our control. I really think A is trying to stop us from bombing them so regardless of what you think about his ideology and dictatorship, he is actually the peacemaker here, IMHO.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:24 PM
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8. We hate Iran because it is chockful of scheming
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 03:25 PM by Skidmore
antiSemite gaykilling Islamofacist women haters who hate us for our freedoms and our way of life, down to the little babies.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:26 PM
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9. I don't hate Iran
But I do despise their leadership.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:26 PM
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10. oops double post n/t
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 03:26 PM by Marrah_G
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:26 PM
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11. Amijinidad is not a dictator.
A dictator dictates virtually everything of importance that happens inside a nation. Minimally, in order to fit our working definition of "dictator", one has to at least be the person in control. Amijinidad is not in control inside Iran. As I have posted on other DU threads, he has less power there than Nancy Pelosi does here. In fact when Iran had a much more moderate President immediately before Amijinidad, the word used to describe that Iranian by the neocons and much of the media was "figurehead", not "dictator". Recently Amijinidad has been losing all of the power struggles inside of Iran and has been kicked down the ladder of those who hold any power in that theocratic democracy - with the heavy emphasis on theocratic.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:27 PM
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12. He doesn't have enough power to be called a dictator. n/t
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:28 PM
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13. They're a crappy authoritarian theocracy that we don't have to go to war with.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:40 PM
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14. Bush and Ahmadinejad - a pair of loudmouths with tiny pricks.
This whole debacle is degenerating into a cock-wagging contest, if you ask me.

:evilfrown:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:41 PM
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15. They caused 9-11.
Did you forget 9-11?
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:58 PM
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17. Bornagin911
Hell no, because freedom isnt free..................:patriot: :puke: :puke:
:hi:
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:53 PM
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16. Because they have oil
The oil co's want oil and the war profiters have not made enough on Iraq. Very simple and we are yammering on who is the better democrat.
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