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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:33 AM
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Poll question: All our candidates are great! Agree or Disagree?
Just out of curiosity - I hear this regularly even from candidates that we have a very strong field this time around, and I'm inclined to agree with it - what do you think?

Bryant
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:36 AM
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1. Kucinich...and ONLY Kucinich n/t
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:43 AM
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2. What do you think of DUers who have picked someone who isn't Kucinich? n/t
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:22 AM
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7. He restriced women's right until he became a presidential candidate.
Since the Democratic Presidential nominee had to woo the pro-choice groups, he attempted a quick switch.

Because Representative Kucinich had openly enjoyed restricting women's own rights to their own bodies until there was a possibility he could be the Democratic presidential nominee, I can never take him seriously as the 'progressive' candidate.

I could never support a voting record like his at the polls.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020527/pollitt

He has quietly amassed an anti-choice anti-choice voting record of Henry Hyde-like proportions. He supported Bush's reinstatement of the gag rule for recipients of US family planning funds abroad. He supported the Child Custody Protection Act, which prohibits anyone but a parent from taking a teenage girl across state lines for an abortion. He voted for the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which makes it a crime, distinct from assault on a pregnant woman, to cause the injury or death of a fetus. He voted against funding research on RU-486. He voted for a ban on dilation and extraction (so-called partial-birth) abortions without a maternal health exception. He even voted against contraception coverage in health insurance plans for federal workers--a huge work force of some 2.6 million people (and yes, for many of them, Viagra is covered). Where reasonable constitutional objections could be raised--the lack of a health exception in partial-birth bans clearly violates Roe v. Wade, as the Supreme Court ruled in Stenberg v. Carhart--Kucinich did not raise them; where competing principles could be invoked--freedom of speech for foreign health organizations--he did not bring them up. He was a co-sponsor of the House bill outlawing all forms of human cloning, even for research purposes, and he opposes embryonic stem cell research. His anti-choice dedication has earned him a 95 percent position rating from the National Right to Life Committee, versus 10 percent from Planned Parenthood and 0 percent from NARAL.

When I spoke with Kucinich by phone, he seemed to be looking for a way to put some space between himself and his record. "I believe life begins at conception"--Kucinich was raised as a Catholic--"and that it doesn't end at birth." He said he favored neither a Human Life Amendment that would constitutionally protect "life" from the moment of conception, nor the overturning of Roe v. Wade (when asked by Planned Parenthood in 1996 whether he supported the substance of Roe, however, he told them he did not). He spoke of his wish to see abortion made rare by providing women with more social supports and better healthcare, by requiring more responsibility from men and so on. He presented his votes as votes not against abortion per se but against federal funding of the procedure. Unfortunately, his record does not easily lend itself to this reading: He voted specifically against allowing Washington, DC, to fund abortions for poor women with nonfederal dollars and against permitting female soldiers and military dependents to have an abortion in overseas military facilities even if they paid for it themselves. Similarly, although Kucinich told me he was not in favor of "criminalizing" abortion, he voted for a partial-birth-abortion ban that included fines and up to two years in jail for doctors who performed them, except to save the woman's life. What's that, if not criminalization?


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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 02:48 PM
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19. It doesn't matter to the messiah-followers.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:47 AM
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3. None of them are perfect, but all have potential to be great.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:48 AM
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4. Our candidates (all of 'em) are better than what stands as POTUS now.
They're all better than what the POS party is putting up as their candidates as well.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:25 AM
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9. they stand head and shoulder above any of the oppositions parties
as the old saying goes
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:16 AM
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5. Each have their merits, each have their faults..
as long as one of them gets into the White House, we'll be much better off.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:18 AM
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6. That's true n/t
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:24 AM
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8. Sure they are,
The best fielding of candidates we've had in a while, best I can remember anyway
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:25 AM
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10. Except for our Ross Perot impersonator, and Moonbeam McCrazypants....
... we have a VERY strong lineup.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:31 AM
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14. lol!
I can guess who Moonbeam McCrazypants is, but who is the Ross Perot impersonator?

:rofl:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 12:49 PM
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17. Some cantankerous kinda-funny old dude. I forget his name.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:43 PM
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21. That would be Mike Gravel, I think...
These days, pronounced "GraVELL," as opposed to "GRAvel," which is how he was pronounced when I was a mere sprout and he was in the Senate and dinosaurs ruled the earth. Sure, it may sound a little Frenchy-Foo-Foo these days, but I'll vote for Charles DeGaulle before any republic.

(But I'm still a little pissed that Pat Paulsen hasn't been given more serious consideration.)
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:27 AM
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11. All of our candidates are better than the repuke candidates.
Does that mean they are all great? No, but they are better than what the other side is offering.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:29 AM
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12. As of now, only one stands head and shoulders over the rest: Dennis Kucinich. (pun intended!)
He is awesome.

TC


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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:29 AM
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13. Except for the ones like Mitt!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:33 AM
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15. Mitt-Twits
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 11:34 AM
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16. Subtle. But by "our" i mean Democratic. And Mormon Mitt is running as a Republican. n/t.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 02:47 PM
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18. Self indulgent kick. n/t
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 03:04 PM
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20. One good one anyway.
Dennis Kucinich
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 04:04 PM
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22. All but one is real
DK is the only real deal , the others are just the same old political junk yard dogs with alot of false promises and alot of high finance , this is something others promised to change years ago and it still works to their benefit and will never change .
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