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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:42 AM
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I thought the best part of the interview with President Ahmadinejad was :
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 07:54 AM by lionesspriyanka
when the reporter asked him if he had any thing he admired about president bush.

President Ahmadinejad turned the question around and said "as an american do you have anything you admire about your president?"

the reported said "he is a religious man"

That not a compliment, thats just a statement.


on edit: I dont support President Ahmadinejad's domestic policy at all. However i do not believe that reporters should attempt to bully leaders of other nations especially when they roll over for President Bush at all times.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:45 AM
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1. I'm Thinking....
Nope, not a damn thing. He'll make an excellent case study in villains, perhaps?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:46 AM
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2. as a reporter he should have expected this turn around and had a prepared answer
president bush is a religious man, is hardly a compliment.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:49 AM
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3. I don't care if he hates bush,the guy is disgusting
He has pushed women's rights in his own country down the toilet.Do a little research

He is unpopular at home and using his trip here for a little propaganda boost at home





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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:51 AM
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4. who said i suppported him? i was just making a statement that the entire interview was a farce
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 07:52 AM by lionesspriyanka
and it was embarrassing.

there are several nations whose policies on women and gay rights i abhor.

iran is one of them.

doesnt make that stupid reporter any less stupid.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:51 AM
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5. And This Differs From W How?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:54 AM
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6. I don't think W can tell women they are barred from attending a stadium event
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:58 AM
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46. Just Democrats from Public Ones?
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:59 AM
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9. Ahmadinejad was elected in 2005.
I have no doubt that the threat of a US invasion of Iran was a huge help to Ahmadinejad. I doubt that Iranians, who are more progressive in their beliefs than the ayatollahs, would have elected such a hardliner if they were not fearful of Bush's constant saber-rattling.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:06 AM
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11. Ahmadinejad got into office because of big-mouth Bush's...
saber-rattling. The Iranians were trending toward a more friendly government before Bush opened his big mouth.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:17 AM
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12. It's working out quite well for the neocon plan of securing the oil supply of the Middle East.
If the Iranians had elected a more moderate leader, they wouldn't have the bogyman of Ahmadinejad to use to justify their plan to bomb Iran.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:44 AM
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22. I just wish Scott Pelley had asked some other type of questions
Wasted opportunity in my book
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:46 AM
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23. yes, it was. it was squandering a good opportunity.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:32 AM
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34. Iranians elect nobody
At least as far as we identify elections. The ayatollas control politics and if you are not on their list of approved candidates then you can't run.

The election was more or less a beauty contest. Ahmadinejad does not run much other than his mouth.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:32 AM
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35. yup.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:58 AM
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36. While it's true that candidates must be approved by the Council of Guardians
there were other candidates who were much more moderate running against Ahmadinejad. Consider his main opponent in the 2005 election Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani:

"Rafsanjani is heavily associated with the Iranian business class and like his constituency he is hostile to Ahmandinejad and the more ideological tendency in the Islamic Republic. Rafsanjani is best described as a pragmatic conservative, who supports a centrist (but nonetheless Islamist) position domestically and a moderate position internationally, seeking to avoid conflict with the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akbar_Hashemi_Rafsanjani

It's unlikely that Rafsanjani would have "run his mouth" as much as Ahmandinejad, and Rafsanjani would most likely have provided fewer outrageous sound bites that could be manipulated by the Bush administration to support an invasion of Iran.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:03 AM
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10. I think, rather, that he is trying to forestall a
US attack on his country. He's trying to show that (whatever else he may be) he is NOT at threat to the US. He tried to remind us that after 9/11 Iran enthusiastically cooperated against the Taliban, and sealed their border tight (unlike our ally in Pakistan) allowing a quick and decisive victory over Bin Laden and Mullah Omar.

BTW, the Iranian RW oppression of women has been ongoing since 1979, while Amadinijhad has only been president for a couple years, so there's no point in dropping it ALL in his lap.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:19 AM
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13. Yeah! So let's bomb the fuck out of innocent Iranian women and children!
WOO HOO! AMERICA KICKS ASS! We won't stand for people being mistreated by their government unless it's OUR government doing the mistreating! We'll show that asshole! While he's safe wherever the hell big important leaders hide while bombs are dropping, we'll kill hundreds of thousands of those filthy Iranians in order to save them!

.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:23 AM
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16. ...
:thumbsup:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:57 AM
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24. You are a perfect example why we need a lot fewer males in political office
Most of you overreact. Must be all that testosterone.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:58 AM
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25. i believe thats sarcasm.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:17 AM
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37. I'm stunned you actually had to point that out!
:wow:

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Timex Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:04 AM
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27. good point n/t
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:39 AM
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42. pretty much sums it up
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:20 AM
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14. Do some studying you say
Well just how much say does this "President" really have in matters such as you listed? He is but a figure head, the Ayatollah makes the rules..
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:32 AM
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20. also lets stop lying about the reasons we condemn some foreign leaders and not other
if we cared about women/gays we would really really hate saudi arabia, but we dont.

if america's foreign policy stance was more uniform, the rest of the world wouldnt view us as bullies and see through our inauthenticity.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:40 AM
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43. bingo
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:55 AM
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7. Wow. Do the priests have this country brainwashed or what?
1. Religiosity, especially fundamentalism, is not something to be admired.

2. Bush is not religious. Rich people have no reason to be. He just uses that to get people to support things that are contrary to their interests.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 07:56 AM
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8. that was my point. being religious is hardly worthy of admiration.
arguably President Ahmadinejad is religious too.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:22 AM
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15. It sounded like an interview out of 1938 Germany.
"What do you admire most about der Fuhrer?" Not 'What do you admire about America?' but 'How about our glorious leader?!' as if he is the heart and soul of the nation.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:29 AM
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19. especially since his ratings are in the 20's. clearly even americans dont admire him anymore.
hell even the reporter couldnt find anythign better that religion
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:24 AM
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17. I would have answered that question with a 'no'! There isn't a thing I can think of I admire about
George W. Bush. I also would have 'lost it' with the idiot interviewer who insisted that the USA had proof that Iran is doing this or that. Like, who would believe anything the USA says after Iraq.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:25 AM
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18. i thought the iranian president did a great PR job in that interview
for the rest of the world, the reporter reinforced the stereotype that americans and arrogant bullys who refuse to own up to any mistakes (iraq)
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:43 AM
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21. this was dirty and pelley got called on it.
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 08:48 AM by bullimiami
PELLEY: But the American people, sir, believe that your country is a terrorist nation, exporting terrorism in the world. You must have known that visiting the World Trade Center site would infuriate many Americans, as if to be mocking the American people.

AHMADINEJAD: Well, I'm amazed. How can you speak for the whole of the American nation?


And this is an outright lie.

(CBS) PELLEY: Mr. President, you say that the two nations are very close to one another, but it is an established fact now that Iranian bombs and Iranian know-how are killing Americans in Iraq. You have American blood on your hands. Why?

AHMADINEJAD: Well, this is what the American officials are saying. Again, American officials wherever around the world that they encounter a


Pelley is an outright tool of the WH propaganda dept.




PELLEY: Mr. President, American men and women are being killed by your weapons in Iraq. You know this.

AHMADINEJAD: No, no, no.

PELLEY: Why are those weapons there?

AHMADINEJAD: Who's saying that?

PELLEY: The American Army has captured Iranian missiles in Iraq. The critical elements of the explosively formed penetrator bombs that are killing so many people are coming from Iran. There's no doubt about that anymore. The denials are no longer credible, sir.

AHMADINEJAD: Very good. If I may.

AHMADINEJAD: Are you an American politician? Am I to look at you as an American politician or a reporter? This is what the American officials are claiming.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:01 AM
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26. yeah he really botched that interview.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:10 AM
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29. he really did. the iranian president is smart and careful, a real politician.
unfortunately the IQ of our newsmedia has deteriorated to the point that they cant handle someone like this.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:12 AM
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30. i think the guy went in with an "i am clearly intellectually superior to you" attitude
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 09:13 AM by lionesspriyanka
and got his ass handed to him.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:22 AM
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32. its always the stupid who underestimate intelligence. nt.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:26 AM
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33. i thought it was racist. its the "he's only a dumb arab" issue.
atleast thats how i perceived it, and i think a large number of non-americans will too.

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:23 AM
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38. if its anti-arab racism then pelley is truly a dumbass.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:30 AM
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41. it felt like that to me. like pelley felt he had some moral/intellectual authority
to speak to a sovereign leader in that condescending, interrogating manner

a manner in which he would dare not speak to his own president.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:41 AM
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44. he is scared of bush. its a sign of the weakness of his character.
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 10:42 AM by bullimiami
its such a common occurrence now.
the media is frightened by bushco so they pander to them.
they also lash out in frustration against whomever they are not frightened of. Democrats, Liberals and others.

sad sad pitiful little cowards. like a vicious chihuahua.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:05 AM
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28. Heard the best line on the radio just now
"Do you intend to build a nuclear bomb?"

A. - "What do you mean by that?"

:shrug:
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:20 AM
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31. the real intellectual insult is how on one hand iran would be a threat to the world
if they had one nuclear warhead and must be kept from it at all cost, even war.
yet
bush, a fanatical madman, and alchoholic and drug addict, a liar, torturer and war criminal, a man who has overthrown the government of haiti by force and murder and put criminals in charge, a man who created war in iraq, murdered in the neighborhood of a million people in the process and has threatened nuclear war. this mans government has a huge nuclear arsenal and is creating newer more horrible weapons as I type.

That is not a threat.

The UN should close their doors in shame. They are toothless and sold out to the powerful like everything else.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:24 AM
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39. Definitely The Best Part!
I agree!
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:27 AM
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40. thanks. that interview was appallling and embarrassing.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 10:54 AM
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45. I love when the mouth breaths site morons* best quality as being a
religious man. Never once does the idea of being a good leader, or being honest or having integrity comes to mind.

Says a lot, you now?

the echo chamber of self delusion.
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