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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:15 AM Original message |
Ok, moms & dads: Larry Craig and the restroom sex solicitation thing.... |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. ? |
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luckyleftyme2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. the setting says it all |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Be clear though, he did NOT have sex there. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. What about people who were merely making contact in a restroom |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
61. Indeed. Peeping toms are bad, straight or not. n/t |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. That's not the point. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. See my post below on "family restrooms". Also, after years of travelling the world |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
38. but in the Republican minds, they are the same ... |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. "someone needs to speak out for the kids in this situation" |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. You are correct Bluebear |
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Omphaloskepsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. As a young man I was never solicited for or witnessed sex in a bathroom. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I didn't know about the foot tapping thing until the Craig scandal broke. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. 'I wouldn't have noticed if Fred Astaire had been in the next stall.' |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Thank you, I'll be here all week. |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
29. It's a good point. I was unaware of the footsy stuff also and would |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Well I do believe there was illegal solicitation for sex. |
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yellowdogintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. when I first read the foot tapping thing, I honestly thought it was a satirical entry |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. It's not about soliciting children, it's about sex in a quasi-public |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
41. OK serious question: |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. Gay does NOT equal pedophile! |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So, you're saying that if Craig had been successful in his solicitation |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. No, I doubt they would have gotten it on right there in the bathroom. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
14. think of the children!!! |
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Chipper Chat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Oh absolutely! |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. lol -- save our children from anita!!! |
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Nutmegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. OMG you beat me to it! |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:36 AM Response to Original message |
19. helen lovejoy, is that you? |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:58 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. The peeping into a stall creeps me out. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
21. he didn't know who was in the other stall and the cops heard about it on Craig's list, where people |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Then, just sayin', how come parents haven't been complaining about the children seeing things? |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. do you have proof there were no complaints by anyone, there are gay bars for that purpose, and ad |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Do you have proof of all these children who have seen sex at the airport? |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. Oh My Stars, Yes! Every Gay Man Is Just a Heartbeat Away From Molesting Children! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I'm right there with you, Toasterlad |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
69. The article I read about it said.. |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. the airport cops were in fact running enticing ads on Craigslist ("airport fun") |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:52 AM Response to Original message |
22. No matter the aclu defends him...he is toast....he is despicable...and he is sick... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
25. i have a confession to make, i write on the box that has the round toilet cover tissues, i write,. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
26. Oh, yes, just what the Republicans want.. more publicity for Larry Craig |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:16 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Republicans hate both the ACLU and this type of publicity! All |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
31. I had 3 boys, and I usually made them use the Ladies' Room |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #31 |
66. Absolutely same here. |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
84. I have two boys and made them use the women's restroom... |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
33. oh c'mon |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. ... |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. Ha! |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
34. I would imagine a homosexual adult couple having sex in a bathroom |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
35. Tap Your Feet All You Want...Look In My Stall... |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. Enough with all the "better not peep at me" thoughts |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
36. As a mom, I 'm much more worried about Craig's warmongering. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. I love you. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. You said it. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
39. Craig is a closeted |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
45. I Have Never Seen Anyone |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
46. If you are concerned about pedophiles, then worry about church |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
47. oh for crying out loud |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Excellent post, yardwork. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Thanks! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Well said as always. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Oh thank you! |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. indeed |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
64. But.. but think of the children! |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #47 |
65. I believe she's worried about the blow-job that follows the toe-tapping, not the toe-tapping |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. No blow job took place, and we only have the police officer's word on the peeping. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. No of course not. Solicitation is illegal in Minnesota. If you want to debate whether that |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. No, he pled guilty to disorderly conduct. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. The point the ACLU is making is that there is no evidence that solicitation took place. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:41 PM Original message |
I imagine this is where the officer's testimony comes into play. He'll also have to |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
87. This will never go to trial. No way will that officer ever take the stand. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
55. "So, To Answer Your Question, Toasterlad..." |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. ... |
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Sabriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. Just as long as his tapping doesn't disturb my breastfeeding |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
60. I have three sons,and would have no problem with my sons going in the same restroom as a gay man. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Thank you for this voice of reason in the midst of hysteria. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. I agree, but I'm confused. Isn't the real concern about two people having sex in a |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. The ACLU is defending Craig because no sex took place. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Because "solicitation" in public places is illegal. That's what the ACLU should be taking up |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Your facts are wrong. Craig did not plead guilty to solicitation. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. He plead guilty to disorderly conduct. He was arrested for lewd behavior, said behavior |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. If foot-tapping is proof of solicitation, then how come winking at strangers is not? |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. It was way more than foot-tapping |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. I disagree that most people would consider his behavior lewd |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I really do think most people would notice someone peeping at them through the stall crack |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
71. I have three kids and I gotta'say this doesn't concern me in the least. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. But what COULD have happened!!! |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. They could have dribbled on the seat? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I hate it when people do that! Now that's something people should get arrested for! |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I know! How big does that hole have to be? |
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