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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:20 PM
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Checkmate, America
The U.S. is financially bankrupt. It has $9 trillion in official on-the-books debt, and $55 trillion in debt-plus-future-obligations. This debt is supported by an economy that has a structural trade deficit of $700 billion a year, with more jobs leaving the U.S. forever every year.

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The U.S. is morally bankrupt. It is unable to distinguish between actual right and wrong in real-life matters involving The Golden Rule, and to act accordingly. Torture, pre-emptive wars, assassination by executive order, and other gross violations of human rights are tolerated by not only the government leaders and politicians in power, but by most of America's churches and corporations.

In fact, in what's sometimes called a "Christian nation," many of America's most outspoken "Christian" leaders are unhappy that the U.S. has not already attacked Iran. They are fully supportive of Israel's genocidal and discriminatory policies against Palestinian civilians."Morality" is thus something that is applied by the government to individuals, but whatever the government itself does is "legal," and therefore "moral" by definition.

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The U.S. power structure -- the government bureaucracies, politicians, corporations, mass media, and churches -- is simultaneously rigid and fragile. It is rigid because the vast majority of the people working in it suffer from "group think," and will not alter or refuse illegal or immoral orders and policies from on high for fear of losing their perks and privileges. It is fragile because it is institutionally stupid and corrupt, requiring only additional time and entropy for catastrophic collapse. As that happens, it will eliminate even the pretense, the charade of a democratic republic.

Unfortunately, and sadly, there is no possibility of change via the ballot box. Thanks to decades of gerrymandering, incumbents rarely lose and their replacements are drawn from within the enormously corrupt Two-Party Machine. Always.

And there is no point in looking to the Democrats for salvation, or for progressive change. The Democratic Party sold out to corporate lobbyists long ago, and is nothing but a septic tank of incompatible philosophies held by compromised, unprincipled politicians. The Democratic Party's lowest common denominator is simply the status quo ... which is how we got here today, with permanent war, unaffordable healthcare, two million Americans in prison, many for small amounts of reefer, etc., etc.

The only commonality in the Democratic Party is that they are not Republicans, but even that can change in an instant. And look at Democrat Joe Lieberman's instant transformation. He quit hiding in the neocon closet after he was outed by Ned Lamont, and the Republican voters hoorayed. And so we are stuck with another 5 years of Uncle Joe's warmongering for Israel. He simply could not be removed from office by the voters in his party.

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Bottom Line, this is where the U.S. is now: It will fall from "superpower" status in at most two decades. It will become the Belgium of the Americas -- at best. Or possibly even become a failed state, insolvent and unable to collect taxes or provide any services except military gulags to hold angry prole mobs.

Or, if things go a little worse, the U.S. could be turned into a radioactive wasteland someday. After yet another moronic miscalculation by American leaders; the next global superpower may decide that enough is enough and that it's time for American "regime change" to permanently eliminate the nuclear blackmailers from power in Washington D.C.

Because what actual power does America have, except the threat of nuking non-nuclear nations which refuse to obey Washington's dictates? Nuclear blackmail is all that is left, once the last pretense of moral authority is stripped away from an oil-starved, financially bankrupt country running massive structural trade deficits.

http://www.unknownnews.org/070905a-MrChuckles.html


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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:07 PM
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1. self-del
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 07:08 PM by HypnoToad
:tinfoilhat:
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 12:26 AM
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15. Another Doctor Who Fan, I See
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 12:26 AM by AndyTiedye
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:21 PM
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2. K & R
because I cant find any fault with any of the premises.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:22 PM
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3. Unless the offshoring is in anticipation of that nightmare scenario?
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:56 PM
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4. compromised, unprincipled politicians.
Not all. There are some good ones out there. Check out Kucinich (and be careful with that broad brush). Many in the party are exactly as you describe - in fact the majority at the moment. But that can change - from the ground up.

There is still a modicum of hope left for this sick sick republic, IMO. But to save it we need to admit the realities of your post, which is why I will..

K & R :)
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:16 PM
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7. If we're going to stop this run away train then we need to;
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 08:17 PM by Middle finga
1) Pick Kuncinich, Gore or some other anti war canididate and support them to the fullest. 2)The war need to end immediately, I mean all soldiers out of Iraq within a few months not years. 3) The military budget need to be immedidately cut in half which includes closing over half our military bases around the world and bringing those troops home as well.

If we do those 3 things we could free up hundreds of billion of dollars a year to fix other problems.

Edited: Spelling error
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 11:04 PM
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11. To be honest with you
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 11:05 PM by Truth2Tell
I'm not sure the steps you describe can realistically happen under our current framework. I wish they could, but I suspect they can't.

First I think we may need a wholesale movement within the Democratic Party to return to a truly compassionate set of values - and a corresponding program of widespread education of Americans (Dems and others) about what exactly that means about our relationship with the other nations of the world and the environment of the planet (among other things).

We have lots of work to do, and I think it will be well past this primary season before we see substantial results. We may even backslide further before we truly progress, as sad and demoralizing as that would be. Hillary as Prez for example.

Just don't lose faith even if it gets uglier, cuz it's likely to. And we're gonna need those who understand the realities even more after it does. Hang in. Never give up.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 11:11 PM
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12. Hate to break this to you but, we haven't had a republic since at least 1947.
The "National Security Act" of 1947 was the first major step, in modern times, of the elimination of the American Experiment.

There is only one power, represented by two parties and the only thing that will change that is when things get so uncomfortable for so many of the sheeple that they can no longer ignore the suffering that surrounds them and afflicts them.



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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 12:03 AM
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13. I stand corrected.
I use republic mostly as a rhetorical flourish rather than a truly precise adjective. But your point is valid.

With the rest of your post I agree - I simply don't think all is lost. It may get worse before it gets better, but I still have some faith in some people.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 12:12 AM
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14. I wish I could muster such, these days I'm afraid I have none. But, I love your sig pic.
Priceless.
:kick:



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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:58 PM
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5. and that's just the good news.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:02 PM
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6. Buncha melodramatic nonsense.
Someday DU is going to have to stop luxuriating in the fact that the Democratic Party is broken and will actually have to start taking measures to fix it - or will everybody here just be holding their noses and shouting "I told you so!" until they're blue in the face?
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:25 PM
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9. Yeah there are a few good dems in congress but they seem to
have been marginalized. While we're always bickering about Bush taking us into an illegal war, let's not forget which party was in charge of the senate when that IWR was passed.
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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:18 PM
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8. Sadly, the word "thugs" is the first thing that comes to mind.
"The U.S. is morally bankrupt. It is unable to distinguish between actual right and wrong in real-life matters involving The Golden Rule, and to act accordingly. Torture, pre-emptive wars, assassination by executive order, and other gross violations of human rights are tolerated by not only the government leaders and politicians in power, but by most of America's churches and corporations."



Our country is for hire and American citizens are paying for it - both literally and with the blood of our soldiers. Who sold out the United States of America?
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 02:56 PM
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22. It wasn't sold out it was sold to.....
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:46 PM
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10. i wonder if this is what Rome felt like during its final days...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:21 AM
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16. MrChuckles 'splains it...
:kick:
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:40 PM
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17. Over!
No money.
No morals.
No future.
No point in voting.

Mr. Chuckles kills!

Peace.

(a little fear-mongering never hurt anyone...made me laugh)
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:43 PM
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18. God The Author Of That Article Is A Moron.
Extremist ignoramus to the maxus.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 06:01 PM
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20. They read Geo Washington's Farewell Address to the Nation every session of Congress
If Congress fails to heed its warnings, then Congress needs to be changed. That's the Constitutional "cure". Besides, humans are fallible creatures; the mullahs in Iran have their share of asshats too (!) and No Korea's contribution to the human zoo (Lil' Kim) is right up there too.

Foreign entanglements and partisanship. George warned us.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 04:46 PM
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19. Good fucking luck on this one.
:sigh: :shit: :sweat:
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Macchendra Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 02:54 PM
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21. Bumpaliciousness!!!
Lieberman! The DNC was dragged kicking and screaming into Lamont's camp. That is who the democratic party was. No longer! We are too informed and the media no longer has a monopoly! Vote for the Democratic wing of the Democratic party!
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 03:22 PM
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23. I called my representative - He said they'd get it all fixed right away
And would I care to make a contribution to his reelection efforts?

:sarcasm:

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