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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:16 PM
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O J Simpson Arrested And In Custody In Las Vegas
For robbery, armed robbery, and robbery with a weapon

Breaking....
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:16 PM
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1. He'll just get out on bail to go find the real robbers...
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 01:17 PM by HypnoToad
:hide:
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:39 PM
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35. ROFL!
Good one! :rofl:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:21 PM
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81. yep.. He'll hunt down the real robbers ... in Reno
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 02:21 PM by SoCalDem
then the cops from reno 911can follow him around :)
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:19 AM
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156. No, just like looking for his wife's killer, he'll start with the world's golf courses...(nt)
Edited on Mon Sep-17-07 09:23 AM by KansDem
edited...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:17 PM
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2. It'd be ironic if he got sent up the river for something like this, instead
of what he should have been sent up the river for.

Hey, whatever works, I guess. :eyes:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:18 PM
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3. What a stupid SOB....
....he gets a walk on two murders and he just cannot seem to stay out of trouble. One would think someone with that much baggage in his past would learn to walk the fuck away from trouble.

Unreal.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:20 PM
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5. Maybe he found the real killers in Las Vegas, so he whipped out his guns and drove on in?
:hide:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:27 PM
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14. LOL n/t
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:22 PM
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7. No kidding.
Funny, the little twinkie anchor-cutie on CNN even said that - "you'd think he'd have learned his lesson and stayed quiet..."


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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:31 PM
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25. True. On the other hand, if he really could stay out of trouble he wouldn't
be a murderer. :shrug:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:19 PM
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4. Call me when they arrest Bush and Cheney n/t
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:20 PM
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6. I'd love to hear what the real story is about this strange incident.
Regardless, it seems that some will rejoice that we've finally "got him". I'd feel that way myself if it wasn't for confusion about what the hell happened here. Seems like the relevant prosecutor finally decided he knows enough to lay down the charges...
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:23 PM
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8. Sorry you didn't watch the whole criminal case for OJ, on TV!
He's as guilty as sin.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:03 PM
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145. Yes, he's as guilty as sin. They didn't have a mere "mountain of evidence."
They had the whole frickin' HIMALAYAS of evidence.

The jury was predisposed to seize on ANYTHING in order to find him not guilty. Very telling for me was in what my coworkers were coming back with after covering it all day - speaking about seeing some of the jury members in the lunch room at the beginning, after opening arguments from the prosecution, and how subdued they were and shocked and deeply troubled. The comment was made regarding their profound concern about "a brother in trouble" and the at-the-time serious likelihood that they wouldn't be able to help him or give him the benefit of the doubt. And when the pathetic "try on the gloves" bit happened, one of the court observers, who was a parent, commented that ANY time you try to put a coat on an angry, uncooperative two-year-old, that two-year-old can make DAMNED sure the coat won't fit, even if you had it tailor-made for him/her.

He was guilty. He is guilty. He butchered those two people in a crime of spontaneous rage - after stalking her nearly forever.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:28 PM
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16. The relevant prosecutor decided it was time for career advancement
No prosecutor in America will ever turn down an OJ Simpson prosecution. It's too politically delicious.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:48 PM
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44. They're talking about autographed memorabilia - simpson-autographed
memorabilia. I wonder if it really is HIS stuff, or if he just assumes (as he tends to do) that if it has his name on it - it's his. I remember interviews with him during the trial when EVERYTHING he talked about was in the first-person possessive - MY Nicole. MY this. MY that.

Of course I suppose there might have been some items that were his that he didn't autograph or something. But, sorry, I can't help it. I view anything that comes out of this monster's mouth to be immediately suspect. It's ALL your stuff, oj. Yeah... SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE. :eyes:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:45 PM
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95. much like bush: "my goverment", "my country", etc....
the psycho brothers.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:15 PM
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112. Even if it's his stuff, I heard today on TV from a lawyer that the
law doesn't allow someone to just go and take their own stuff back if it's been stolen-that someone has to contact the authorities.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:20 PM
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126. He's correct. You learn that from Judge Judy easily enough.
But that's theft.

Robbery, and specifically, armed robbery, are treated as very serious by society, for very good, legitimate reasons... anyone who commits such acts in the course of taking back what one considers to be one's own property is a stupid idiot, be they former football stars and acquitted murder defendants or not.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:24 PM
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9. I Hope He Gets Life In Prison For It.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:24 PM
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10. He craves attention and is a true narcissist. A very sad fellow
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:26 PM
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13. Frankly.....
...I think OJ is just plain too stupid to be a narcissist.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:33 PM
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29. HE got off a murder charge. He's not that dumb, but he is a scam artist
For a while, I lived not far from him in Miami. He had a scam

going where he allegedly stole satellite service. He's always got some

BS around him.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:16 AM
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155. He paid for a lot of brain power for the NG verdict in the...
...Brown/Goldman murder case. That does NOT make him bright....it just makes him someone who had a ton of money and happened to spend it on very, very brilliant legal representation. Nothing wrong with that.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:25 PM
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11. Dude seems to love crime...
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:26 PM
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12. Screw the LV Police
OJ was found NOT GUILTY!!!!!!

I can't believe that people are Pre-Judging him based on the past.

Maybe they can bring in racist Mark Furhman to plant evidence against OJ again.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:29 PM
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18. You forgot the sarcasm smiley
Just sayin'....
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:30 PM
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22. Nope!
The closet racists love to hate OJ!

A jury acquitted him of murder. Anybody who calls him a killer should be sued for libel.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:31 PM
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26. You're kidding, right? n/t
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:46 PM
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39. I'm afraid he's not...
But then there's still peoples who think the earth is flat you know.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:47 PM
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42. Yeah.
:eyes:

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:42 PM
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37. FUCKING KILLER.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:46 PM
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38. So, just because one believes OJ Simpson, by virtue of
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 01:48 PM by ikojo
class and economic privilege, was able to skirt justice for two murders, one is a racist. I was not on that jury so if I think he's guilty that's my right. It does not make me a racist. OJ got off because he could afford the best lawyers available in California. Death Row would be less full if all of those currently serving a death sentence had access to the same quality legal defense team as OJ Simpson.

Just sayin'

It's about access to MONEY. OJ had it. OJ walked.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:48 PM
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45. So ironic
OJ betrayed the black community so many years ago. Funny that he was still beloved and acquitted by a black jury.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:17 PM
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79. Juries have to follow judges instruction. Are limited in what they can do.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:32 PM
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88. Maybe....
Maybe the African-American community turned its head in order to have a little "payback" as so many African-Americans put it.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:35 PM
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91. So a murderer gets off, and that's okay?
If they were looking for payback (and I can't say I blame them), I'd rather it have been with a case that wasn't about murder.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #88
149. Or...
they were scared that if they found OJ guilty there would be an even worse repeat of the Rodney King riots.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:48 PM
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46. That's exactly right, ikojo. n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:53 PM
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53. No, but it makes you kind of foolish.
Do you honestly think that in assessing all the evidence, including the legendary incompetance of the LA forensics lab; the institutionalized racism of the LAPD, famous for using the phrase "no humans involved" to describe minority-on-minority violence; and the at best dubious timeline... Assessing all those things, do you really think that you can honestly say that there's no reasonable doubt in this case?

"Death Row would be less full if all of those currently serving a death sentence had access to the same quality legal defense team as OJ Simpson."

True, which should make you worry more about Death Row than the Simpson case.
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shimbo Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:22 PM
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82. Planting Evidence
OJ got off because there was strong suspicions that the LAPD planted evidence.

IMHO, they did.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #82
148. Remember the saying after the trial:
The LAPD is so incompetent it can't even successfully frame a guilty man.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:46 PM
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97. You're right. The racism part comes in at the point where whites are still angry 15 years later
as if no murders have taken place since. Just sayin'
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:50 PM
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47. Simpson is a fucking KILLER !
Sue me !
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:52 PM
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52. Accused of murder
Whatver you want to say, he's never been found guilty of anything.

I've never been a huge fan of OJ, but the LAPD got what they deserved.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:54 PM
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54. Jeebus, I know LAPD has a lot of problems, not not every cop is
a crooked one.

And a fucking killer went free. Yippee. Let's all sing Kumbya. :eyes:

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SayWhatYo Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:49 PM
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98. ok...
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

Someone’s laughing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s laughing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s laughing, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s crying, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

Someone’s praying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s praying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s praying, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

Someone’s singing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s singing, Lord, kumbaya
Someone’s singing, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya

Another version of the song:

Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah
Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah
Kum ba yah, my Lord, kum ba yah
Oh Lord, kum ba yah

Hear me crying, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me crying, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me crying, Lord, kum ba yah
Oh Lord, kum ba yah

Hear me singing, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me singing, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me singing, Lord, kum ba yah
Oh Lord, kum ba yah

Hear me praying, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me praying, Lord, kum ba yah
Hear me praying, Lord, kum ba yah
Oh Lord, kum ba yah

Oh I need you, Lord, kum ba yah
Oh I need you, Lord, kum ba yah
Oh I need you, Lord, kum ba yah
Oh Lord, kum ba yah


oh, you weren't serious? sorry.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #98
100. ........
:rofl:

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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #52
124. Actually, he lost the civil case.
So, yes, he was found guilty of something.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:57 PM
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57. LOL!
You do realize that the families of his wife and the man who was murdered with her, won in civil court.

He's a murderer. Let me repeat that: He's a murderer.

So sue me.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #22
59. OJ would be the only one who could sue for libel.
And of course if ever he collected any money from any lawsuits they would likely go right to the Goldmans, just like his book proceeds.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:12 PM
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72. He would never win a case for libel.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #72
134. I am not going to argue with that, but in case he ever won
any lawsuit, the money would likely go to the Goldmans, to satisfy the civil judgment the Goldmans won against him.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #22
62. Another jury found him liable for wrongful death.
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 02:03 PM by tabasco
I guess that doesn't count in your world.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #62
69. A preponderence of the evidence
Found liable for the death, never convicted of murder.

The Goldmans are simply trying to make money off their son's death. I will give Fred Goldman credit. I wish I could grown a handlebar moustache like his.

Maybe they can search for the real killer, instead of focusing on sometone who has been acquitted in a fair trial.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:38 AM
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158. Oh give me a friggen break?
If your son were killed by OJ, wouldn't you be going after him? I know I would.
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #22
70. It's not libel if it's true.
And racist, my ass. There is no law suggesting that race or being a rich celebrity allows a free pass to murder.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #70
75. Not true
He's been found not guilty of all crimes related Ron and Nicole's death.

If the police hadn't framed a guilty man, OJ would likely be behind bars today.

I defend OJ not because I don't think he's a killer, but b/c of the arrogance and disregard of the law from the LAPD.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #75
114. Not guilty does not mean innocent.
The jury doesn't even have an "innocent" option.
Basically the jurors aren't supposed to convict someone of a crime unless they are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt the accused did it. If they think the accused did it but they are not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt the jurors have to vote not guilty.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #114
119. and they have other instructions limiting them also. nt
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #22
84. There was also a jury that found him guilty
It was only the civil suit but still found guilty by a jury of his peers...One jury by technicality found him not guilty and one overwhelmingly found him guilty..I think the very great majority of people both black and white think he is guilty of the murders...
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #22
90. He was found not guilty
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 02:37 PM by never_get_over_it
he was not found innocent - BIG DIFFERENCE - and I have to tell you I think a jury that brings back a verdict in FOUR FREAKING HOURS after such a long trial might of had some racist on it to -

curious is Oprha a closet racisit because I saw her show the other day about "the book" and I'm thinking she is NOT a big OJ fan - and I know plenty of black people who think he was as guilty as sin.....are they closet recists - just asking
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #22
140. Can't be anything but racism ... right?
Can't be that the facts of the case persuaded many to believe differently than you?
:sarcasm:
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:36 AM
Response to Reply #22
157. He was found liable for their deaths in the civil litigation
That's good enough for me, so while he was acquitted on the criminal charges, he was still found liable for their deaths.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:29 PM
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19. It might be elucidating to read up on the Civil case.
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 01:32 PM by WinkyDink
Oh, there was racism in the Criminal trial, but it didn't come from the prosecution, and it didn't come from the defense.
Not from the witnesses.
Nor from the judge.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #19
30. Cochran is dead!
Sure, he used the race card! But it isn't like the LAPD hasn't been racist for years.

I can't believe that Robert Shapiro criticized Cochran. He took OJ's money, but betrayed him in the end.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. You didn't read correctly. I said "not the defense". IOW~~~THE JURY.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:37 PM
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33. Sorry n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #32
41. You do know that only 8 of the 12 jurors were black, right?
A not-guilty verdict requires a unanimous agreement, one which was achieved by the 12 people who were exposed only to the facts of the case, and not the media narrative.

Not directed at you, but I'm ashamed of the ignorance and knee-jerk foolishness so many DUers are indulging in here. A group so cynical and suspicious of the media on some points suddenly shows that they can't distinguish between facts and a shiny dramatic story when it comes to other things.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #41
58. So, poor OJ should be left alone, even if, in ANOTHER case, they
have reason to believe he did something illegal?

Piffle.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #58
127. It means that people shouldn't be so eager to throw the first stone.
I would think that after so many cases where people have been freed from prison after years, sometimes decades, because it turned out that they were wrongly convicted, maybe people would have enough sense to follow the idea of innocent until proven guilty, and respect a jury's unanimous decision that a defendant go free. Of course, maybe I'm expecting too much. Sure enough, there were a throng of people here ready to hang the Duke lacrosse team from the nearest lamp post before that case was found to be made out of lies and innuendo, and there still are people here who would like to see it even though no crime was committed.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #127
131. Unlike the Duke lacrosse team, I think there are too many things
pointing toward OJ's guilt.

In the OJ case, when Ron and Nicole were first murdered, I didn't automatically think that OJ did it. In fact, when the slow speed chase happened, I was initially surprised they were after him. But the more I heard, the more I came to feel he was guilty.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #41
61. Wrong. The jury was nine blacks, one hispanic, two whites.
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #61
63. The white civil jury found him guilty
The divide is still strong. White hate OJ, but blacks defend him on principle.

Funny how one black guy getting off enrages whitey, while the entire system against blacks goes unnoticed.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:06 PM
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64. Bullshit.
What do you want? For NO black people to be arrested and convicted, because they're black? That's as stupid s black people being arrested and convicted BECAUSE they are black.

Neither is justice.

And I don't think the entire system against blacks goes unnoticed.

Who appointed you as the Grand Poobah of All Things Black?

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:52 PM
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101. You're not asking me but...
tsias has a good point.

The ANGER displayed towards OJ to this day by whites is unmistakable. I'm not defending him, I just don't feel all the anger and outrage that most whites seem to feel to this day, 15 years later.

Take the Nifong situation--he was disbarred immediately for daring to accuse those boys. On the other hand, there is little or no outrage when it comes to the Jena 6 prosecutors.

A black judge brought on a frivolous lawsuit for his pants, and now they are talking about disbarring and disrobing him. See the difference?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:58 PM
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104. I have a different take on it.
The reason I am still so pissed off about it is because, unlike poor blacks, OJ got off because he had the money to buy his Dream Team. I'm pissed at the injustice. I'm not pissed because he's black; I'm pissed because he had the money to get off.

If he had been a poor black man, well, his ass would have been in a sling from the very beginning. THAT pisses me off.

Knowing that a large percentage of people in jail, for much lesser crimes, are black and poor pisses me off.

I see no justice in the fact that OJ got off because he has money.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:06 PM
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108. Indeed SeattleGirl. Being able to pay your way out of murder, rotting in jail if you are poor.
How many poor black men are rotting in prison just because they don't have fame or fortune enough to buy their way out? And here is this egotistical murderer, able to buy his way out. The criminal system we have is often unjust, and most often unjust to those without money. That really pisses me off.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:26 PM
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118. Word, SG. You said it way better than I could. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #63
117. Whites hate OJ? Yeah, sure--that's why he had such a difficult post-NFL professional career...
:eyes:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 09:29 PM
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150. Whites did not hate oj. Not for a long time. They loved him all over the Westside of L.A.
where he was embraced at the nearly-lily white Riviera Country Club, and elegant Westside restaurants where a minimum dinner for two is at least 100 dollars not counting the fine wine. It could, I suppose, be argued that it was oj simpson who turned HIS back on his own. He only wanted to hobknob with whites. He frequented mainly upper-income white venues (shops, country clubs, restaurants, executive suites, etc.) and never hung around anywhere close to South L.A. He built his movie career in mainly anglo productions with majority white casting. And he was idolized by the local LAPD. They loved coming over to his house and having their pictures taken with him. They'd had a number of opportunities to arrest him for stalking and threatening and terrorizing Nicole, and beating her, and they repeatedly refused to pursue any of it. They ROUTINELY let him off with a warning. REPEATEDLY. They gave him a break, EVERY TIME. When he'd beaten her while they lived on Rockingham Avenue, when he broke down her doors, roaring and terrorizing her and she called 911, when they had photos of her documenting how he'd beaten and abused and bruised her - they NEVER pushed it. EVER. Anyone who was predisposed toward racism in his case would NEVER have cut him any slack with these repeated offenses. However, the local LAPD CONSISTENTLY did. At most, they gave him a verbal warning and went away. As a matter of fact, it was argued at the time that he did NOT face a jury of his peers during the criminal trial, because he never lived with or associated with the kind of folks (including the non African-Americans) on that jury. The middle class and lower-middle class members of that jury weren't his peers in ANY shape or form. A more true and realistic "jury of his peers" would have been a lot of anglo actors and other celebs, directors, producers, publicists, agents, talent managers and other industry people, team owners, big-name advertisers, sports equipment manufacturers, and CEOs, plus a few superstar athletes, both black AND white. The people he hung with, routinely, and socialized with and played golf with and worked with, were, in the VAST majority, affluent caucasian. And his house on Rockingham Avenue was in one of the ritziest neighborhoods in Los Angeles - in some cases moreso than even Bel-Air and Beverly Hills. And his neighbors were - you guessed it - white and hugely wealthy. One of his neighbors was TV producer David E. Kelley and his wife Michelle Pfeiffer, and Michael Ovitz, who at the time was virtually the emperor of Hollywood as the chief of Creative Artists Agency - the top agency in town whose talent roster was absolutely five-star (the Tom Cruises and Demi Moores and other stars of that ilk).

Furthermore, one of the jurors overheard in the lunchroom by several of my former colleagues had been heard to say "it's PAYBACK time!" - especially following the questioning of Mark Fuhrman about a salacious and provocative script he was working on as a consultant, which if I recall correctly, involved a character who was a racist cop.

Now, having said that, you can go ahead and call me a racist if you feel you need to. You would be wrong, of course. I lived in that area and saw her frequently around the neighborhood in her white L84AD8 licence-plated sports car. Her kids, when at Paul Revere Junior High, were friends with lots of kids whose families I knew. EVERYONE whispered about how he beat her all the time. And how he always got off, WITH THE COPS, with nary a hand-slap. All the women talked about it.

There was a MOUNTAIN of evidence. There were several MOUNTAIN RANGES of evidence. But there was enough to create a "reasonable doubt" bail-out for him and they jumped at it. So he beat the rap. But that jury found him NOT GUILTY. Which is NOT the same as "innocent."
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #61
128. Pardon my marginal memory. The point I made stands. NT
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #41
143. Hear, hear.
How dare he be found not guilty, huh? :eyes:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #30
99. I think the LAPD attempted to frame
the right person, and got caught
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #19
78. Wow- you must have seen a different trial than I saw
either that, or you've got a pretty short memory of the facts of the case and the nature of the investigation and the witnesses.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #12
20. Yeah, what you said about Furhman....
...I will go with you on that.

No doubt in my mind that Furhman planted the glove behind the guest house at OJ's home. And, no doubt that Vannatter spilled a few drops of blood here and there from the blood draw from OJ he carried around instead of putting in the freaking evidence locker.

That IMO has always been the problem with the LAPD ~~ arrogant, lying bastards. For cripes sake....look at the Ramparts Scandal. The LAPD is about as low as they come.

Talk about pigs of the highest order ~~ that is the LAPD.

JMHO

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #20
31. Please. Mark Fuhrman who played basketball with his A-A buddies?
Who could've "planted the glove" on some patsy (e.g., Kato Kaelin), instead of the BELOVED and HOMORED O.J. SIMPSON??

Who made the bloody size-12 Bruno Magli footprints?
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #31
73. Mark Fuhrman made them...
Mark Fuhrman made them. After he planted the glove.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #31
129. Are you completely INSANE?
You're defending Mark Fuhrman, the guy who committed perjury nine ways from Sunday? The guy who was caught on tape bragging about having tortured gang suspects? Who was recorded repeatedly using a racial epithet he'd sworn under oath he hadn't used even once in the last ten years?

The guy who, when asked if he'd falsified police reports or planted evidence in the OJ Simpson case, invoked his 5th amendment rights against self-incrimination? THAT Mark Fuhrman?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:51 PM
Response to Reply #129
144. The invocation of "OJ" begins all meetings of ...
... The Mark Fuhrman Fan Club. :eyes:
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #31
153. The point is....
...IF the LAPD had not planted the shit to make a fair case better ~~ in their estimation ~~ IMO, the verdict in the OJ case would have been different. That and the stupidity of leaving the case downtown and not taking it back to Santa Monica coupled with leaving Clark as the lead prosecutor pretty much made for a NG verdict.

It is not just that OJ supposedly had a dream team...it is that the DA fucked up royal and the LAPD planted evidence. That is IMO how the case resulted in an NG verdict.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #12
49. But found liable in the civil trial...
The jury in the civil trial apparently thought about "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit" and realized that leather gloves like all leather will shrink after being soaked in water and mud.

The jury in the civil trial apparently also thought about the racist cop planting the leather glove and realized even a racist cop isn't that stupid although the jury in the criminal trial apparently was that stupid.

In all murder cases there is always motive. The only person with a motive for killing Nicole Simpson was OJ Simpson.

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shimbo Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #49
87. Van Adder
"even a racist cop isn't that stupid to plant evidence"


Van Adder had a vial of OJ's blood, drawn for evidence, and returned to the scene of the crime. That's documented. That's a big violation of procedure and that's when *I* decided the LAPD were planting evidence.

OJ is almost certainly guilty.

But the LAPD blew the case by arrogantly assuming they could plant evidence to guarantee OJ's conviction. And the jury figured this out.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #87
89. Just because Van Adder made a stupid mistake doesn't automatically
mean he planted evidence.

I really don't understand the universal hatred of cops exhibited by some people on this board.

Are some cops bad? Hell, yeah. But there are also good ones. I don't think they should all be painted with the same brush, in either way.
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shimbo Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #89
93. Stupid Mistake = Reasonable Doubt
Van Adder took OJ's blood BACK to the scene of the crime.

Perhaps it was a stupid mistake but... it's a stupid mistake and that's why OJ got off. Van Adder injected reasonable doubt into the case.

Personally, I think he planted the evidence, having lived in LA for 29 years.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #89
130. SG, how much do you know about the history of racism in the LAPD?
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 04:47 PM by TheWraith
It's a long, incredibly nasty history at that, stretching all the way back. From the Watts Riots to Rodney King and beyond to present day, there's a vast backstory of the LAPD's excessive violence, faking evidence, murders, frameups, etcetera. With an organization that massively corrupt on every level, unless you can conclusively prove that proper protocols were followed in every way, you can't trust a single thing they do. I think that that, more than anything else, accounts for the jury verdict. Black, white, or brown, all of those people knew the LAPD and their history. Once that can of worms was open, there was no way to trust any of their evidence.

I don't hate police, but I do regard them as people like anybody else. That means that while there are good ones, there are also very bad ones. And in some organizations the bad ones are protected and encouraged, even by the good cops' complicity in the code of silence, that you never testify against a fellow officer.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #130
133. I do know a lot of the the history of the LAPD, and I don't think all
cops are good or bad. I know there is a lot of corruption in that police department, and I find it sickening. But equally sickening is the fact that a murderer got off.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 02:32 AM
Response to Reply #133
152. And yet, your conclusion is based on the evidence that those untrustworthy people gathered. NT
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:15 AM
Response to Reply #87
154. Absolutely agree with your statement
I went to the OJ house location and it was on a triangular lot between two streets. I stood where Vanatter said he supposedly saw a speck of blood on the door of the white Bronco. Bullshit is all I can say. NO ONE has eyes that are capable of seeing a drop of blood that size from where he said he was standing. The ONLY explanation I can figure for his X-ray eyes is that he KNEW the drop of blood was there BEFORE he spotted it. Leads me to believe that with the errant vial of blood and the testimony that there was some missing from the vial that Vannatter planted the blood on the Bronco.

JMHO
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:14 PM
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76. Being found not guilty does not mean one is INNOCENT
It means the prosecution did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt to the jury the person was guilty.

There was enough evidence proving OJ was guilty but the prosecution did not do their job and allowed the defense to twist reality.

A relative of mine knew OJ from USC - he is everything you think he isn't.


If you need him to be your poster boy for victims of police corruption I suggest you find the thousands of other true black victims more worthy of being defended against the police. OJ is far from being the model poster boy for that cause.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #12
77. Just because the jury said not guilty doesn't mean he WAS not guilty.
Just that they couldn't prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and other legal restrictions the judge put on them.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #12
94. Search found this post by you: "Clark and Darden let a guilty man walk"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=6934680#6934690
"Stupidest prosecution ever

The prosecution was dumb to let him hold the evidence.

Clark and Darden let a guilty man walk. "


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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #12
135. Not guilty as the verdict is not the same as innocent
It means that the prosecutors failed to present the evidence that might have been there to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. The defense presented a good case, the prosecutors didn't, it doesn't mean he is innocent.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #12
146. the bastard is a double murderer
please save your outrage for idiots
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rollin74 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:28 PM
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15. O.J. is a monster
I wish nothing but the worst for him.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:29 PM
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17. Good
He is an evil man. May he rot for at least awhile in jail.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:30 PM
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21. Run OJ Run
what are the odds that he gets bail for this one?

I want to see another low speed car chase, but this time I want him to blow his brains out like he threatened last time.

Quick, is Larry King on the story?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #21
67. Did Al Cowlings sell his white Ford Bronco yet? And if so,
did he buy a Ford Pinto from his profits?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:31 PM
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23. Maybe there will be some justice done this time.
Asshole.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:31 PM
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24. Even if he's not guilty, they'll find a way to lock him up....
...I get the feeling this might be a case of the police looking to right the wrong of over a decade ago...
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:32 PM
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27. Terrific - OJ 24/7 on all the cable stations
This is better than a missing blond chick to keep all the dum dums preoccupied while bush & co, continue to fuck up the country and our congressional Democrats continue to let them.

Move along folks, nothin to see here.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:32 PM
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28. What? No Bronco chase down the freeway?
Charged with robbery. Hopefully convicted finally of domestic abuse, domestic violence, stalking, and premeditated murder.

Any bets on which sleazy attorney will represent him pro bono?

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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #28
60. Well he's far less rich than he used to so...
I suppose that there was at least a rollerblade chase down the sidewalk.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:38 PM
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34. Karma is a bitch.
I have waited a long time for his luck to run out.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #34
106. and doesn''t it give you hope
that Cheney and Bush might have a karma visit to one day - first thing I thought of....
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:08 PM
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109. Did you see this picture? Someday he will look like this again.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #109
115. I saw that
and it made me sick BUT

now I'm thinking the perfect caption

oh please please commute my DEATH sentence for all my war crimes....please please I'm sorry for laughing at you Karla Fay....
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:24 PM
Response to Reply #115
116. My thought was he was lying in state, only needed flowers.
not praying but not able to do any more harm.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #106
137. I only hope I live to see the day
that those two have to pay for the dead and the wounded that they have left in their wake.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:40 PM
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36. I wonder if the weapon is the same one he used to kill Nicole and
Ron?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:46 PM
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40. Did he use the same glove?
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #40
55. No but the one he used this time will not fit... again.
:)
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:47 PM
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43. isn't armed robbery and robbery with a weapon the same thing?
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #43
48. I would assume
If OJ gets found guilty, he's going away for a long time.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #48
110. Yes. I would think so.
If he is found guilty of robbery, he should do some serious time.
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 04:50 PM
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132. Not necessarily. Charges are burglary while armed and armed robbery.
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 04:50 PM by BadgerLaw2010
Robbery and burglary have different components. Burglary is breaking in with intent to steal or commit some other felony. Robbery is stealing.

You can have burglary without robbery (breaking into a house to beat someone up) and robbery without burglary (sticking up a store). Burglary while armed is a specific enhancer due to the inherently dangerous aspect of breaking into someone's house with a weapon.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:52 PM
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50. These are the same folks who couldn't wait for Rodney King to get into "trouble"
to reassure thier "outlook". How sad.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:59 PM
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105. Please...
A lot of us who would like to see someone finally "juice the Juice," as in an electric chair, did not and do not support LAPD and its racist policies and cried along with everyone else when Rodney King was beaten and cried again when the officers were acquitted and cried yet again when the riots broke out.

And yet to you we are racists because we refuse to allow a murderer to get away with it. We are merely objective. Something you obviously are not. The real racism is the accusation of racism being flung at those who were and are objective about OJ Simpson and do look beyond the color of his skin and simply see a murderer.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:52 PM
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51. Steal stuff with a gun...you goin' ta jail, son
:rofl:

No Johnnie Cochran this time around the block, Juicebox..
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 01:56 PM
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56. I bet that this time that's the shoes who will not fit !
:)
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:07 PM
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65. I wonder if Jackie Chiles is available?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:19 PM
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80. Your honor is a handsome man... a lovely man
:rofl:

Where IS Lance Ito these days, anyway?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:08 PM
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66. Update
Mr. Simpson says it's all a "misunderstanding."
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:10 PM
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68. Can't wait to hear him say, "I don't recall."
:rofl:

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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:12 PM
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71. He's no Alberto Gonzalez
OJ is actually honest, unlike our former AG.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:14 PM
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74. He's honest?
Sorry, but I don't think he is.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:24 PM
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85. He honestly murdered two people.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:24 PM
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83. You need to stop smoking whatever you're smoking...
OJ is about as honest as Alberto Gonzales. You need to stop smoking whatever you're smoking. The man is a monster. He got off every time he abused Nicole, every time he hit Nicole, every time he was caught stalking Nicole. How do you figure that he was framed just because he was OJ Simpson and an African-American or are you one of many who believe that somehow it was alright even if he was guilty because somehow it addressed the problem of racism in our country?

I listened to the comments by African-Americans after he was acquitted. He is a very bad taint on the African-American community if it believes it was "owed" a little payback. Which sums up most of the comments. Then. And now.

The law finally just stopped turning its head to him after he murdered Nicole and Ron Goldman. Maybe if it hadn't been turning its head to him they would still be alive.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:38 PM
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92. Honest? OJ is honest? when?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:31 PM
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120. He clearly said once that Howard Cosell
was a pain in the butt.

See, OJ is honest...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:32 PM
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123. Aha. Got it. Sort of like mrbush is honest. eom
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:46 PM
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96. Yet you wrote on another thread he was guilty, link here.....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=6934680#6934690

"Stupidest prosecution ever

The prosecution was dumb to let him hold the evidence.

Clark and Darden let a guilty man walk. "
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:34 PM
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142. But that was a few hours ago?
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 07:36 PM by DawgHouse
Things are different now. :shrug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:17 PM
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113. BWHAHAHA
Even if by some strange stretch of the imagination you believe he isn't a murderous swine, how you come to the conclusion that he's honest is beyond me. The thug just wrote a book called "If I did it" in the attempt to profit from the death of his wife, and more importantly, his childrens' mother.

Gag me.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:44 PM
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125. You must also believe the insurgency is in the last
throes. :eyes:
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:25 PM
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86. You know when the murders happened
I was a young innocent fool - who sat on my couch watching the slow speed chase literally PRAYING that OJ would no off himself - now that I'm middle aged cynic - I can honestly say I wish the filthy murderous pig would have offed himself - so that none of us would have to hear about this pathetic fool again....
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SayWhatYo Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:53 PM
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102. Poor guy, I feel sorry for OJ...
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 02:54 PM by SayWhatYo
Since very few are standing up for his right to barge into a room with guns and take property.


:hide:

*to be honest, I really don't give a rats ass. I mean, obviously if he did something wrong(which it seems) then he should be charged with whatever the norm is... but I really have a hard time caring...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 02:56 PM
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103. I hear ya.. next thing you know
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 02:56 PM by SoCalDem
cops will start arresting people for showing up at 7-11s when people go in reclaiming those pictures of Thomas Jefferson they keep locked up in little trays.. I mean really.. If you had them in your wallet a while back, and they disappeared, and then you go to a 7-11 and see them in there all stacked up, why NOT get some pals, get some guns, and go back an reclaim what MUST be yours :shrug:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:32 PM
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122. Yeah, damn us bleeding heart liberals all to hell!
:rofl:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:00 PM
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107. That's nice.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:14 PM
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111. Maybe the search for "the real killers" led him to this room?
mmm, probably not.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 03:31 PM
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121. lol
NT
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 05:22 PM
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136. The robber is the same guy who killed Nicole!! NT
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:53 PM
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138. OJ. has been convicted in a civil trial for killing Nicole and Ron which
makes it interesting when sentencing comes around on the robbery/assault convictions, where will his multi-million dollar defense dream team come from this time?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 06:55 PM
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139. I doubt that O.J. has the kind of funds he had during his murder trial
to hire another "dream team." Maybe that means justice will be served. At least I hope so.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 07:10 PM
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141. He'll get the maximum.
No more "getting away with it".

Then again, he'll probably get off scott-free...
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 08:07 PM
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147. Awesome - someone start 50 threads about that asshat - it's such a important story!!!!!
:sarcasm:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 09:34 PM
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151. He's been a real dumb ass in talking to the press!
I think it would be quite fitting that this piece of trash finally goes to prison for being STUPID! After all, that's what seems to have happened to most of our known criminals. They're smart enough to get away with their REAL crimes, but too stupid to stay away from the small ones.
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