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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:43 PM Original message |
The politics of the anti-war movement |
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BayouBengal07 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Thank you! |
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BayouBengal07 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Well |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I really applaud you. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. UFPJ Rejects Future Work with ANSWER (Dec. 12, 2005) |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Thanks for posting that. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. That was 2 years ago |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. I didn't see any new info to the contrary. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Are you on their email list? |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. No. Yet I see you have some clarification. Thanks. Would you post UFPJ's notice? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. It was made very clear in June at the national assembly |
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. Todays march was a featured event |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. How could you not notice this? |
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. I did notice that, but |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
122. I think this is perfectly clear |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. Nature abhors a vacumn |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Well put MadHound - |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. And... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. That's the point! Vietnam ended because of BI-PARTISAN support. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. There is an alternative to ANSWER |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. Better stay home then cause ANSWER is helping with those regional protests. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. ANSWER does not help the active anti-war movement to grow |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. I strongly disagree |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. 700,000? Washington Post says about 7,000 |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. In January, CNN said "thousands" and FOX said "hundreds" |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. If His Given Time Is Accurate, Ma'am |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Were you there, Sir? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Aerial Photographs Will Be interesting To Examine, Ma'am |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #84 |
103. Deleted message |
Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
119. The group is reporting 100,000, which is what I thought when I was there. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #37 |
85. How's that Garden Tea Party going, cali? |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:25 PM Original message |
HAHAHA!!! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. And it's all bullshit gossip anyway |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I sure agree with you...we put down the ones working and doing |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Not Really, Mr. Hound |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I am not arguing that ANSWER is the best tool for the job |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Your Mistake, Sir, Is Thinking It Is A Tool for Any Job You Want Done |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Every message is going |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. UFPJ |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Can you explain |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Sure. Have you been to any of the |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I have not |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
121. Yesterday was not as all over the map as usual. I've been to |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. My Personal View, Sir |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 06:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
98. It appears that |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #98 |
106. Your Taxonomy Is Excellent, Sir |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. While there are |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Indeed, Sir: It Is Always A Pleasure To Cross Paths With You |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
70. Wow, I don't know where you get that from, personal bias perhaps? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. What An Interesting Reply, Sir |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Did you even bother reading the thread? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
73. Yes, I am a fully literate adult, thanks for your concern |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. UFPJ is sponsoring a National Mobilization on Oct 27th |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. I agree with you, cali. nt |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. Wow, nice talking point Cali |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. So is United For Peace and Justice |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. And so is ANSWER |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. That's such a content free and idiotic comment |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Well? Are they? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Let me repeat for about the 6th time on this thread, |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. UFPJ helped promote the march today; there is no rift |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. From UFPJ: |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Check the date |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. OK. I believe you. Now please provide something |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. They made a statement at the national assembly |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. We can't all be there. Great that you could. As I said |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Deleted message |
Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 06:23 AM Response to Reply #23 |
99. Organizing what? A melange of unorganized and marginalizing acts? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
29. UFPJ helped promote the march today; there is no rift |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. UNFP and ANSWER have had major disagreements |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. TWO YEARS AGO - they have since come back together |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. It's not gossip. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Oh so this is about Cindy Sheehan now? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I don't have to dig up any dirt on Clark |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. So I guess they should just go home and shut up |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. This is worth posting again. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Can you even begin t defend this? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. I will accept any voice in this movement |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Sickening. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I doubt David Dukes would come out against the war |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. Actually, Ma'am, He Has, And Has Been for A Long Time |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. Strawman alert. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Bullshit. Ramsey Clark is reprehensible. |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Total strawman. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Except that he is |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. HAHAHA!!!! Nice try, but no cigar. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:58 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Actually, Sir |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Duke and his ilk would not be welcome. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. What Dog Would That Be, Sir? |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Let me clairify |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 02:23 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Again, Sir |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Subject field must not be blank |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 02:37 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. A Pleasure To Make Your Acquaintance, Sir |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Unforunately, he is involved in the anti-war movement |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:26 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Now your getting into Frontpage Mag territory |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. All I am saying is that there are nasty people who have their own reasons |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
38. I agree with you, Cali... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Thanks, Blue |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I am looking forward to it so much. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
54. Gawd bless anybody who stands up! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. Amen |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
67. I agree |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
68. What can be done to counter ANSWER? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. I think the people who "love to trash" ANSWER, Code Pink and MoveOn.org, don't participate ... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 05:26 AM Response to Reply #74 |
97. Well, you're wrong. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Deleted message |
cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. That's just silly. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. I'm not seeing it here ... therefore, that's what we're seeing - factual. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Still maintaining how civil you are, and how you never attack |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #108 |
112. No, I'm just suggesting that you can spend your time more wisely than attacking |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
126. +1 |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-15-07 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
80. More on this topic at DKos |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
96. there are hardly any mainstreamleaders of the "democrats" nationally |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. I guess it depends what you mean by mainstream leaders |
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Anita Garcia (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
104. Then show up with your mission statement on board and protest |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. I've been to ANSWER sponsored |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Well then quit bitching and organize. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Tough shit; I'll criticize ANSWER as much as I wish |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Okay. You were given a solution and you still choose to whine. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. That's ridiculous. |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Well then you should shut them down. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. As I've made clear I am doing something. How about you? |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. See that's the point in all this...you care more about |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
117. Ralph Nader and Cindy Sheehan are not the reasons United for Peace and Justice does not |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
123. "They're putting themselves on the line to protest war crimes, but... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
124. There are no particular "politics" of the anti-war movement. |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-16-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. No one has control over the face of the anti-war movement |
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