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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:28 PM
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Can freepers not see what privatization is doing to this country?

How can they advocate this with such zeal and then scream like they were boiled in oil because a Mexican comes across the border to pick oranges?
Do they not realize that by advocating privatization, they are advocating the loss of infrastructure maintenance in their town--that same town where their spouses and children and friends and family drive on the streets and bridges?
They are also advocating the loss of what was once a "good job" working for the city. A job that usually had health insurance and a pension?
They are advocating giving a contract to a company who is not going to charge them less for the same services...but it going to hire people at a fraction of the cost--including illegal immigrants without any type of benefits at all? It's their profit margin. The same profit margin that went to produce a GOOD job for their neighbor now lines some nameless, faceless corporation pockets. I mean, have they thought this out?
They are actually ending up paying MORE because these low paid workers for these private companies NOW qualify for food stamps and Medicaid.
They need to take a good long look. Has their city bill gone down at all since it was privatized?
Take another look. The man that is picking up my garbage is ALSO driving the truck. He stops it, gets out, dumps my garbage and then drives the truck off again. This was a job that once had 3 people doing it. One driving, one on each side of the road.
Back then, I got my garbage picked up 2-3 times a week--for the same price I am paying now for a once-a-week pickup.
Why is something so simple so difficult for them to comprehend?
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:31 PM
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1. It involves critical thinking. Talking Points are so much easier,
especially when given to them by the Falafel Man.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:32 PM
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2. Consumed with insatiable greed to convert everything into cash.........
or cash generating opportunities.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:33 PM
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3. Freepers don't add things up. They need to be breast fed ammunition.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:33 PM
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4. Ever since the Reagan years they have been told, over and over,
that government is always bad and inefficient and exists only to take away your tax money. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, they absolutely believe this, and you will never be able to change their minds.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:38 PM
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9. always bad and inefficient and exists only to take away your tax money
(1 of the most) perfect definition of the bu$chainay maladministration

but hey... they ssssssssooooooooooooooo llllllllohhhhhhhhhvvvvvvvvvvvvve them... :puke:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:35 PM
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5. Why should they?
A proportional amount of this massive off-load of ability/talent/skills was sent to China/India/Russia started during the 90s.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:36 PM
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6. What you are asking for is an actual Thinking Rethuglican and
it aint' gonna happen..

Remember the report about right thinking brains and left leaning brains...

The only seek the simple answer, "Illegal immigrants are taking our jobs"

not the complex...

By Privitizing and outsourcing city jobs...actual citzens losing jobs, health benefits and livly hoods and in the meantime the infrastructure of all cities across this country fall apart...

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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:37 PM
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7. Government bad ,
company good. Teach these people.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:38 PM
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8. privitazation, the republican wet/pipe dream
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:40 PM
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10. Freepervs don't see, or hear, or speak evil ,evildoers do, don't they?
Is greed evil ,does power corrupt ,is water wet?????????
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:40 PM
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11. They have been brainwashed by the right and call everything socialism.
I like to remind them that our military is the biggest socialist program we have...
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AnotherGreenWorld Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:41 PM
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12. Of course not. They're far too stupid.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:44 PM
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13. They are sheep
They only advocate the flow of the dirty river. After all, there may be sumpin' to ketch for supper up thar!
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:56 PM
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14. Republicons were taught early to conform and not question their leader
They don't think past what the talking heads preach every evening and on Sunday.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:58 PM
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15. There will be one chance & one way to fix it: tax the hell out of the rich.
This is because the good that existed in the past--decent paying jobs--won't happen again because of debts.

But don't forget, the debts occurred because of THEIR war of which, they were the only beneficiaries. They also got a fantastic tax cut during a time of a DECLARED national emergency. So, it's time for the rich to PROVE that they are Americans with action rather than the Richard Mellon Scaife way: propaganda against the poor--the class warfare that the extreme right has been waging on America since Reagan.



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Stargazer99 Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:08 PM
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18. AMEN! The fastest way to end this war is make the wealthy and
the well to do start paying taxes to pay for this war and make them send their sons and daughters to the front line....the war will stop so fast your head would spin! Why should they stop it now? It is the middle and low income who are losing their sons (just babies most of them) and health care, homes, etc are non-existant for many in this nation. Any Christian ought to be ashamed to support the Republican Party.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:12 PM
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19. It does not compute to the average freeper
that everything they foam at the mouth over--privatization being one of them--does not benefit them at all.
It provides cover for the corporations to deplete our funds.
The ONLY ones that benefit are the corporations.
We lose on service, our taxes go UP to cover the Medicaid and Food Stamps for not only fired municipal employee, but for the low-paid corporate employee as well.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:59 PM
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16. Interesting I had a conversation today..............
with an aged Freeper, he was complaining that the government should pay private nursing homes money for taking care of seniors. I explained that for the most part they are taking the person SS check and whatever else they can get. Where I live there is a county run home built at the old poor house and it takes millions to keep it up and running. I told him old Ronnie decided to privatize stuff and its led to a whole trend. He couldn't understand that these homes cut corners to make the most profit at the expense of the elderly. He was upset because they hire barely skilled workers and don't pay much attention to the patients. I told him its called warehousing.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:05 PM
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17. It is sad when the chickens come home to roost
It should be a time to be able to point a finger and say "I told you so"...but sadly the rhetoric harms real people and it is difficult to take joy in that.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:16 PM
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20. rightism means only that Killing and Cancer is Freedom--
they support every chemical dumped in our rivers as FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM! The 19th-century spirit of boundless, orgasmic "optimism" that gave you commodity fetishization. "Better living through chemistry" with Thalidomide and Bt genes that kill sheep and slowly spread across subcontinents. For over forty years an army of propagandists has literally said Rachel Carson is worse than Pol Pot, because she dared oppose one of their chemicals.
Their "freedom" is visible at Triangle Shirtwaist fires (can't restrict the freedom of the employer!), faulty products (caveat emptor!), detergents and CFCs everywhere (environmentalism is DEATH!), and guns everywhere (causing death is the most wonderful freedom of all!). Remember, Bob Murray is a hero because he's rich, the MSHA is evil because it's the gub'mint.
Their solution to your dilemma--cut the food stamps and Medicaid!
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