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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 11:41 AM
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you do the math-nearly half of the 697,000 Gulf War I Veterans are now ill -over 200,000
have applied for disability.
http://www.gulfwarvets.com/news13.htm
Today,well over a million active duty,reserve and national guard troops,as well as private contractors have rotated,many for the second and third time.
During the "Shock and Awe" of 2003,tons of DU-laden weapons were used,leaving a haze of depleted uranium dust,which was inhaled by our troops,as well as Iraqis.I wrote a post,which was pretty much ignored,indicating that the VA is no longer reporting cancer cases.The VA has also suspended research into DU related birth defects.1 in 4 Iraqi babies is born with horrific birth defects.I have links,or you can google depleted uranium babies.This isn't a new disease.It's just inconceivable to me that more people aren't outraged.I am particularly curious as to how the "family values" people can remain silent about a substance that causes miscarriages,infertility,and dead babies.I'll follow up with my next LTTE,which is about the DU babies born to American soldiers.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 11:45 AM
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1. Oh those crazy bushes
just never satisfied
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 11:52 AM
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2. Thank you for opening my eyes!
I am engaged to a man that was in the Navy in the first gulf war, and served in Iraq in the National Guard in the current quagmire.

Do you have any links that I can view for deformities affecting children of the troops? I would like to get informed about the issues before we start having children of our own.

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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 11:55 AM
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5. please read all the info and have your man tested for DU poisoning


only a few labs do it and it cost a lot of money, but pregnancy is hard enough without having a DU poisoned baby.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:00 PM
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6. I have several
Bear in mind-the DoD's own link into birth defect research has been discled.They DON'T want the American public to know.


http://www.gulfwarvets.com/du.htm
has a TON of DU links
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/depleted_morality/
http://pnews.org/ArT/TrU/DepletedUraniumDeath.shtml
http://www.traprockpeace.org/gulf_war_birth_defects.htm
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:01 PM
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7. this has a huge database ofDU-related articles
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:04 PM
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8. If he was on a ship in Gulf 1 he is probably fine
Edited on Thu Sep-06-07 12:05 PM by Marrah_G
Yes, still have him look into it, but don't worry too much. My brother has had 6 beautiful kids since Gulf 1(the last one born 7-12-07 while he is on the ground in Iraq), where he was onboard a ship, and not one has had any problems.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:08 PM
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9. the most severe cases have been grunts and marines who were on the ground
inhaled DU dust is the most severe form of exposure.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:44 PM
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12. Here you go....
http://www.ccnr.org/du_hague.html

http://www.gulfwarvets.com/du.htm

http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/95178_du12.shtml

http://www.traprockpeace.org/depleteduranium.html

http://www.hermes-press.com/depluran.htm



My nephew served in the first Bush - Gulf war -- He has unmanageable migraines which he never had prior to his service - he tried to get help from the VA..

They told him he was imagining the headaches that made him so sick he couldn't move for 2 or 3 days at a time.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 04:54 PM
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15. those are great links
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 11:54 AM
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3. and there they sit in the green zone thinking they are safe while


DU poisoned dust goes up their noses

but, wait a minute! isn't everything in the green zone built indoors? they go from vehicle to bldg. (while holding their breath?)
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 11:54 AM
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4. Veterans for Common Sense fact sheets on returning Afghan and Iraq war-pdf file
Edited on Thu Sep-06-07 12:00 PM by fed-up
Sorry, I am running out the door and forgot how to post a link properly

Recent <a href="http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/files/VFCS/VA_Fact_Sheet_08-26-2007.pdf">Veterans for Common Sense fact sheets on returning Afghan and Iraq war</a> veterans' needs say 40,000 veterans are still awaiting answers to their claims and the average wait time for answers to veterans claims is six months.

edited to add source for pdf
here
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/articleid/8385
U.S. battlefield casualties from the two wars increased by more than 1,000 during the month of August 2007:

VCS DoD Fact Sheet, as of September 5, 2007

VA has not released a new report since July 25, 2007, when VA reported 250,000 Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans treated at VA hospitals:

VCS VA Fact Sheet, as of August 26, 2007

and here

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/090507J.shtml
y Thomas D. Williams
t r u t h o u t | Report

Wednesday 05 September 2007

"The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own." - Aldous Huxley, English Writer
Ever since the Persian Gulf War 15 years ago, countless spokespersons for the US Department of Defense and the US Department of Veterans Affairs have insisted they are intent upon giving hundreds of thousands of soldiers, veterans and war veterans the best medical care available.

Meanwhile, scores of US, United Nations and foreign politicians and military officials have constantly expressed immense concern for potentially millions of innocent civilian victims of the wars in Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan. Yet, relatively little has been done worldwide to track their deaths, console family survivors or obtain health care for the wounded, maimed and sick. The combined ill and the dead from those four wars are estimated in the millions with no exacting figures available. Knowledge about sicknesses caused by the war in Bosnia-Serbia is scarce.

And, what makes US and allied officials far more culpable is this. The environmental hazards foreign civilians and US and allied service members have been exposed to and sickened by are largely generated by US and allied bombings, munitions and even medicines aimed at protecting service members. They include: radioactive dust from depleted uranium munitions, deadly chemical warfare gases released by US bombings of Iraqi bunkers, oil well fires during the first Gulf War, pollution of European and Middle Eastern foreign air and water supplies from wartime explosions and fires, pesticides, fumes from specialized military vehicle paint, and disease carrying insects.

The Pentagon's and the British military's mandatory use of the controversial anthrax vaccine and other experimental drugs, including US use of pyridostigmine bromide pills to protect against gas attacks, on troops have resulted in thousands of adverse reactions, many serious ones, some even listed on drug labels as possible but not provable fatal reactions.

...snip
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:10 PM
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10. its one of the saddest pages in US History
they literally are poisoning our soldiers
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:12 PM
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11. Sensenbrener repeatedly ignored questions about this
An activist in our district who is concerned about depleted uranium has brought up the issue to Sensenbrenner at a series of townhall meetings over a period of many months. He has consistently refused to look into the matter or do anything meaningful about it. At one meeting I attended the activist passed around photos of damaged veterans and babies with birth defects caused by their parents' exposure. The mostly Republican audience didn't seem at all interested in seeing them. A right winger (who subsequently was elected to a seat in the state assembly) grabbed the photos as they were passed to him and stuffed them under his chair. It's too painful to think that your country would be doing this, so just don't think about it.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 12:58 PM
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13. my next LTTE.We'll see if they print it.
The mistreatment and betrayal of our Iraq and Gulf War Veterans knows no boundaries.I have written about how the VA is no longer reporting cancer cases to registries.Today,I'd like to focus on the effect of depleted uranium on the unborn babies,spouses,and fertility of Iraq War and Gulf War veterans.Army Pamphlet 700-XX was written in 1995 as a part of a 12-hour course to warn of the dangers of DU exposure.This was replaced with Training Support Package TA-031-DUAT-001,which condensed this training to 20 minutes,and greatly minimized the effects of depleted uranium.The results of this deception -of the 697,000 troops who served in Gulf War 1,nearly half have filed claims with the VA,with a backlog of 40,000 veterans.You can imagine,with over 1 million troops having rotated through Iraq-as well as private contractors,the medical nightmare that looms.
My focus today,however,is the horrific birth defects that torment the babies of veterans of this war.The circumstances of Veterans of Gulf War 1 and Operation Iraqi Freedom are similar,with the exception of the multiple deployments our troops see today.Reporting of health concerns of our troops are non-existent,although over 26,000 have been evacuated for non-combat illnesses.Children of Gulf War Vets have twice the number of chromosomal birth defects as the general population-particularly agenesis of the kidneys,spina bifida,and finger and toe agenesis.They have three times the number of heart defects.They are born with brain tumors,and develop leukemia soon after birth.Gulf War Vets are three times as likely to have a baby with Goldenhar's Syndrome,in which only half of the face develops.Male veterans report three times the national average of stillborn and miscarried babies.Depleted uranium settles in the sperm cells,and can stay there for years.
An anecdotal study done by survey of 10,051 ill veterans performed by Operation Desert Shield / Desert Storm Association found that 51% of spouses were ill and 22% of children.Since Gulf War Syndrome may take 2-5 years to appear,due to the nature of exposure to depleted uranium,most of these families are not covered by the VA/DoD health insurance.Since the VA/DoD has made every effort to suppress and cherry-pick its research,we may never know the true extent of the harm of exposure to depleted uranium or the various vaccines that our soldiers are exposed to.Please write your congress members and request they reinstate research into the health effects of this illegal war.
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 01:48 PM
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14. THANK YOU ALL!
I will show him the links tonight!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 05:42 PM
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16. kicking for the night crew-like we need more to be outraged about
Edited on Thu Sep-06-07 05:43 PM by w8liftinglady
This is part of the promise I made Monkeyman before he died-to take care of our veterans and expose the flaws in our VA.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:51 PM
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17. not very good at math are you?
sorta puts a damper on an otherwise important topic. 200/697 = 29%
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:56 AM
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18. Yes, less than a third, actually. That caught my eye, as well.
NOT that 29% is an acceptable number. It's just that twisting the facts doesn't help one's cause.
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