Gore/Edwards 2008---Yep...That's the Ticket

[hang a left]

Sorry, I am amongst the disillusioned that Al is going to run. I don't think that he could walk away from the responsibility to bail our country out of this deep crisis.

Our entire system of democracy is at stake. If he is a patriot, and I believe that he is, he will not shun us in our darkest hour.

I know that there are many DUer's that would like to see Clark as his running mate. I really don't want a military man as VP. I would like to see a smooth talking diplomat. Gore is an intellectual: a thinker. He will need a schmoozer.

[amitten]

1. No...the liberals need no extra shcmoozing on their side.

That's what the other side claims to hate about us...the "schmooze".

Al Gore needs a tough-guy running mate...especially in wartime. Gore/Clark is a sure win.

If the machines work. If.

[hang a left]

2. I can understand your reasoning there...

however there is more to be concerned with; like the plight of the American worker. I see Edwards for that job.

[Turn CO Blue]

49. Clark's wasted as VP where he'd have no say in military matters

Secretary of Defense for Clark

[amitten]

55. But we're trying to win an election. And they would win. n/t

[countmyvote4real]

3. Who's schmoozing whom here?

No schmoozers need apply. And i disagree with your schmooser tags.

Gore, Edwards or Clark. None of them seem like schmoozers when compared to HRC and Obama.

[hang a left]

4. I guess you have the opinion that schmoozer

is a derogatory adjective.

Not in my book.

The finest diplomats ever were extreme schmoozers.

Tis how you get along in the world!

[tblue37]

33. Bill Clinton was the shmoozer -in-chief. That was his greatest

skill as president. Schmoozers are fine--if they are not just schmoozers.

[hang a left]

5. No DLCers need apply nt

[Pastiche423]

43. johnnyboy was a DLCer while in the Senate

[jgraz]

6. I doubt Edwards will take the #2 slot again

He seemed pretty unhappy with the 2004 election. I don't think he's up for another run as 2nd banana.

[hang a left]

7. If Gore is to run...

And I believe he will, Edwards would have to settle for the VP slot. It will give him a leg up in 2012.

[jgraz]

8. You mean 2016?

I'd hope Gore would be more than a 1-termer.

Anyway, I'd bet any amount that Edwards will not be on the ticket as veep, no matter who wins the nomination.

[hang a left]

9. Yep, that is what I meant 2016. It is late and I am ready to go to sleep.

We can disagree, nothing wrong with that.

Kerry/Edwards won 04. You know the Ohio thing and all.

I can't imagine him not being willing to accept the VP under Gore.

But hey, I am wrong all the time.

I just hope I am RIGHT this time.

[jgraz]

10. If he does, I will happily eat my words.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

45. I think he would if it were the best he could do....n/m

[bananarepublican]

59. Edwards/Obama. Now that's the ticket!

The right-wing-freak-show is really trying to slime John Edwards. To me, that's a humungous plus. I, for one, am for breaking the Bush/Clinton strangle-hold on the presidency. (Gore, could be considered a little Clintoesque.)

I'd be more for Gore if he entered 'all guns blazing'. By that I mean, driving a stake through the neocon heart of what passes for national politics today.

[Middle finga]

11. Both need to first prove that they can run a successful presidential

campaigne first, both are 0-1 right now.

[cali]

12. So when will this Gore is running stuff end?

If he's not in by the end of October, will you guys hang it up?

[SlowDownFast]

35. When he bluntly states that he definately is not running

and endorses a candidate.

Good enough?

[bowens43]

13. Gore couldn't beat bush.

I think that says it all.

[Swamp Rat]

14. ... with the Supreme Court acting on behalf of Bushler.

[marions ghost]

15. message in a bottle

:rofl: It is no longer the year 2000. Some time has passed. Wakey wakey.

Scarlett: Go! Go!
She whips the horse many times, and it falls down dead
Prissy: It's dead! It's dead!

[saltpoint]

16. Gore certainly won the popular vote and in my opinion, the electoral college

in 2000.

What took the White House from his hands was the 5-4 decision of the rightwing Supreme Court.

What remains to be addressed is why even with a Gore win in the popular vote, it was as close as it was. Gore lost Ohio by 3.4% or so, after virtually conceding the state to the Republicans. The Gore of 2008 would certainly not be conceding Ohio's electoral votes to anybody, not that he'd need to, IMO.

What in Bush clicked in roughly half the voting adults in this country? That's the element that is of concern. That's the fog that falls on the towns and villages and makes it hard to navigate.

Those Bush voters are less likely now to want to drink a beer with their fake cowboy Dubya, but in 2000, roughly half of the voters cast their vote for him.

It's that element we have to address and somehow overcome.

[rosesaylavee]

29. The media played a large part in that

Check out this Vanity Fair piece. They list the media types who led the way on trashing and smearing Gore and going light on *. ARticle is appropriately titled "Going after Gore" : http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/10/gore200710

[saltpoint]

54. Hi, rosesaylavee. I knew of this article but hadn't read it yet. Thank

you for the link!

Agree with you that the media is definitely complicit in the Gore/Bush (s)election.

[Kahuna]

17. Oh jeez. What do you have, a Gore bot? You always seem

to find these Gore lovefest threads to piss on. :eyes:

[FourScore]

23. Well, that's not entirely true.

Gore won the popular vote AND we now know that he got 50,000 votes MORE than Bush in FL -- despite all those shenanigans of turning African American away at the polls and road blocks and crap like that going on (thanks to Baby Brother Bush).

The Supreme Court made a political ruling rather than a Constitutional one in my opinion. Plain and simple. They appointed a President rather than allowing democracy to prevail.

Gore won the election, but lost to a bunch of thugs who are now shredding our Constitution.

I've always thought one of his biggest mistakes was having Donna Brazile as campaign manager. Bet he won't do that again.

[grace0418]

26. Wow. First of all he DID beat Bush. Second of all, times have changed a wee bit.

So no, your statement does not say it all.

[snappyturtle]

42. ??????????????????? nt

[Apollo11]

18. Right now it looks like Al Gore will stay out of this race.

Al Gore made his position very clear in a recent interview with 02138 magazine:

A recent poll shows that if you entered the presidential race, you would handily win the New Hampshire primary. Isn’t that tempting?

GORE: Sure. But I am old enough and have been a candidate enough times to have a very high level of resistance to temptations of that sort. I trust my instincts, and it doesn’t feel like it’s the right thing for me.

But if you believe global warming is such a crisis, wouldn’t you be more effective within the White House than outside it?

GORE: I’m under no illusion that there’s any position in the world as influential as that of president. But it doesn’t feel like the right thing for me to be a candidate at this point. I have had the experience of seeing how necessary it is to have adequate support among the people as a whole for the dramatic policy changes that are needed. It may well be that the best use of whatever skills and talents and experiences that I have gained is to concentrate on creating that sea change in mass opinion about this issue, so that whoever is elected will face a groundswell from the people themselves.

Will you endorse a candidate in the primary?

GORE: Odds are that I will.

Who?

GORE: I haven’t made that decision yet.

http://www.02138mag.com/magazine/article/1485.html


But that shouldn't prevent us from encouraging him to keep his options open!

Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Sign the Live Earth Pledge: www.liveearthpledge.org

Then ask all your friends and family to sign it too! :-)

Visit Al's site www.algore.com and read his blog http://blog.algore.com

Sign the petitions at www.algore.org and www.draftgore.com

:kick:

[Apollo11]

19. It looks like Gore is busy working on his next book.

Al Gore Readying New Environmental Book

By HILLEL ITALIE
The Associated Press
Wednesday, September 5, 2007

NEW YORK -- For those frightened by the tale of global warming in Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth," and wondering what can be done, the former vice president has an answer: a sequel.

Gore is working on a new environmental book, "The Path to Survival," that will be released as a paperback original on April 22, 2008, Earth Day. According to publisher Rodale Books, Gore will continue where he left off in "An Inconvenient Truth" and offer "a visionary blueprint for the changes we should make as a world community."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090502274.html

[Demintheusa]

60. Gore is still getting my vote for President n/t

[Demintheusa]

20. Edwards is a joke as far as I'm concerned......

When he brushes Michigan off from campaigning for the primaries cause we don't have Valuable Ideas like the other states he can kiss my butt......;-) Along with the rest of the Dems running. Gore will be the only one I'm voting for even if he doesn't run I am still writing him on my ballot.

[Netbeavis]

21. That's not what Edwards has done and you know it

Edwards is not as finacially strong as Obama or Hillary. He has to focus on NH/SC/Iowa. If he doesn't show well in any of those first three, he's done. So why should he waste time and money in Michigan when, when the time comes for Michigan, he could be out of the race anyways? Why focus time and money in Michigan tomorrow when he needs the help in NH/SC/Iowa today?

[Ninga]

25. Hi, welcome to DU. Please provide the link where Edwards said "Michigan doens't

have Valuable Ideas"

Michigan is a huge State. It costs tons of money to campaign in Michigan. Smaller States are first, because they allow the process to unflold on a smaller scale, less costly so that the winners of the early states can still have money to campaign. And the winners of the early states will get more money.

By the way, would you like to share how much money you have donated to your favorite candidate.....you know the one who hasn't brushed off Michigan and the one who hasn't kissed your stinky butt.

[Demintheusa]

51. Here ya go.....

``Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina need to be first because in these states ideas count, not just money,'' Edwards said. ``This tried-and-true nominating system is the only way for voters to judge the field based on the quality of the candidate, not the depth of their war chest.''


http://www.mlive.com/kalamazoo/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-25/1188917531110010.xml&coll=7

[Romulox]

34. My feel is that Edwards is hostile to the Industrial midwest and US Manufacturing...

He isn't campaigning in Michigan because all he has to offer is more NAFTA, "free trade" with China, and punishing increases in CAFE standards at a time when the Big 3 are on the brink of bankruptcy. He demands we the little people give up our SUVs.* Meanwhile, he's planning an addition on his 30,000 compound.

Anyhow, it's no secret that Edwards trails in the polls here.




*I do not now, nor have I ever, owned or driven an SUV.

[Blackhatjack]

48. Why not educate yourself before showing your ignorance to everyone?

Or do you already know the truth, and your post was designed to be intentionally misleading and inflammatory?

[Demintheusa]

50. Not inflamatory , just saying Gore is getting my vote if he runs or not.

[Triana]

22. YES!!! That would SO rock! (n/t)

[leftyladyfrommo]

24. I don't think Edwards will run as vice president again. n/t

[gorekerrydreamticket]

44. unless he was offered it......n/m

[tom_paine]

27. That ticket would be OK with me.

Although I remain convinced that Gore requires a military mind to balance the ticket more than he needs a schmoozer.

But Gore/Edwards would be a ticket I could get behind.

[FourScore]

28. Gore and ANYBODY at this point.

Just RUN AL RUN!!! We need you!!!

[Kurovski]

30. K&R.

He's an inspiring man, and he works his ass off.

He's brilliant.

[tblue37]

31. Gore/Clark is better, though I would also like Gore/Edwards.

Clark is a military man, sure, but he is also a Rhodes scholar, a brilliant man who is more aware than most of the limits of military efficacy. He also would calm a lot of the Rebuplibot voters' fear of supposed Dem "weakness" on issues of national security.

Even better, he has spent a fair amount of time on FOX as a commentator, smoothly and effectively slapping down their lies and stupidities. He has thus become a known quantity even to dense FOX viewers, who would therefore find him comforting to vote for. Clark would make a brilliant president or VP, and I would be thrilled to see him in either position, though a Gore/Clark ticket is even mroe attractive.

[alittlelark]

32. Also... Gore/Obama Gore/Edwards Gore/ Richardson

Even Gore/ Kucinich would handily win in 2008!!!

[Fly by night]

36. I prefer Gore/Richardson, but will support Edwards/Richardson also.

Hell, I'd support Yellow Dog/Zippy the Pin-Head over anyone the Rethugligans nominate.

Always have. Always will. (Just don't try to sneak Pelosi on the ticket until she gets a new "table".)

[smoogatz]

37. Gore/toaster.

I actualy think Gore/Obama would be a blockbuster ticket. Gore for gravitas and experience, Obama for youth and charisma. Plus, after 8 years of peace, prosperity, security, open and honest government, restoration of the constitution, and reversal of global warming, Obama'd be a lock for the presidency in 2016.

[jgraz]

39. I'm not sure toaster's ready for the national spotlight just yet

But I'll tell you one thing, he does know how to raise the bread.

[smoogatz]

40. baddum-bum.

Try the veal!

[mikelgb]

38. So raise specters from the last Two coups?

hmmm

So raise specters from the last TWO coups?

[Greyskye]

41. would work, but I prefer Gore/Clark

I never thought I would back a military man for high office, but I think the General has the goods.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. I'm shifting toward nobody but Gore to Edwards - not sure if I really

want to go back now. But, would love Gore as president too. But, if Gore runs he needs more of a moderate type to offset the loss of votes to Guliani.
And it sure would be nice to have that person from a big state and that person could actually win it. Too bad there are no hotties from Florida.

[Prophet 451]

47. Don't think Al's running

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see him run but he's leaving it incredibly late to declare if he's going to and he more than most, would know how difficult it is to actually get anything meaningful done from inside the system. I suspect he'll settle for bugging the hell out of Congress on enviromental issues (which could also work well).

My dream ticket is still Gore/Kerry as "The Restoration Ticket". One won in 2000, the other almost certainly won in 2004, the restoration of democracy.

[DFW]

52. You gotta be kidding

Have you ever met Wes Clark?

He has an intellect that is probably unmatched in US politics, and
that includes both Al Gore and Bill Clinton, both of whom I have met
and chatted with--and they are no pygmies in the brains department.

But Wes Clark? He can hold two conversations at once (I was part of
one of them), one about military dangers of an invasion of Iran, and
the other about molecular biology, and be totally engaged in both.

Besides the fact that Edwards would probably turn down the VP spot
twice in a row, Wes Clark absofuckinglutely has the smarts and the
schmoozing capacity to be the greatest U.S. Vice President since...
well.........AL GORE!!!

[rndmprsn]

53. this is my dream ticket...

if only al would get in there and then choose edwards...unbeatable ticket

[Blue Belle]

56. I like your line of thinking...

Run Al Run!!! :)

[autorank]

57. That has my vote. Let Edwards be A.G. also. Bust the Trusts!!!! n/t

[bjobotts]

58. Gore is not running. His mission is global warming now. More important

to him than running for president. He is definite about this...he is not running.

The perfect candidate, closest to Gore's leadership is Dennis Kucinich.
Electability is not an issue in this presidential campaign since after the horror of Bush and the present field of GOP hopefuls being such a joke...whoever wins the democratic nomination will be the next president. Finally we can elect a candidate based of his abilities rather than popularity. The best out there by far is Kucinich.

Kucinich/Edwards '08...the truth ticket. They don't owe any lobbyists and they can't be bought.