Democrats Newly Willing to Compromise on Iraq

[Karmadillo]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/06/washington/06cong.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Democrats Newly Willing to Compromise on Iraq

By CARL HULSE
Published: September 6, 2007

WASHINGTON, Sept. 5 — With a mixed picture emerging about progress in Iraq, Senate Democratic leaders are showing a new openness to compromise as they try to attract Republican support for forcing at least modest troop withdrawals in the coming months.

After short-circuiting consideration of votes on some bipartisan proposals on Iraq before the August break, senior Democrats now say they are willing to rethink their push to establish a withdrawal deadline of next spring if doing so will attract the 60 Senate votes needed to prevail.

Senator Carl Levin, Democrat of Michigan, said, “If we have to make the spring part a goal, rather than something that is binding, and if that is able to produce some additional votes to get us over the filibuster, my own inclination would be to consider that.”

Democrats would need to lure the 60 senators in order to cut off a likely Republican filibuster.

The emerging proposal by Mr. Levin and Senator Jack Reed, Democrat of Rhode Island, would still order the administration to begin pulling at least some combat troops out of Iraq, probably by the end of the year. It is not clear what other provisions the measure may include.

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[RufusTFirefly]

1. Hooray!!!

Things will run sooooo much more efficiently with just one political party!

[MannyGoldstein]

2. Can We Get Some Adult Supervision In This Country?

This is so FUBAR that I don't even know where to start.

[The Wielding Truth]

16. He's started! Watch this. It is great. It's a little hard to hear, but

starting at the 2.24 point you have the answer to where to start.
Tell me what you think?

[MannyGoldstein]

28. Did You Mean To Have A Link? (nt)

[The Wielding Truth]

29. Gees.........sorry This is so good ,too! What a lug head I am.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Lr17usifg

[swag]

3. We're going to be there forever, and we're going to need another war memorial

with tens of thousands of names.

[tularetom]

4. Compromise? As opposed to bending over and spreading 'em

I guess compromise is an improvement. It implies the Dems will get something out of the deal which is a big improvement over what they've received so far.

To me though compromise means the Dems will give bush everything he wants and in return he will ridicule them as traitors and pussies.

[tom_paine]

15. "compromise means the Dems will give bush everything he wants and in return he will ridicule them as

traitors and pussies."

EXACTLY!

[bluestateguy]

17. Compromise means Bush will HELP the Democrats to agree with him and capitulate completely

as opposed to the Democrats capitulating on their own without Bush's help.

[fedupfisherman]

5. Compromise won't cut it

More troops will still die

More Iraqis will still die

More terrorists will be created

More of mess in the Middle East

More violence and hatred

[MadMaddie]

6. So now they are willing to compromise until next spring...

they are only delaying the inevitable....civil war will not be stopped by the warring factions....it can be clamped down, it can be impeeded but it is still simmering...more US troops deaths won't stop them from fighting...won't push the puppet government to "Stand up so we can Stand down..." remember that....

Why do the Democrats have to be the ones to negotiate they have the power....utter bullshit...and cowardice....

So what one city has been clamped down...citizens can't move about...curfews.....no constant running water and electricity....how is that progress....and still US soldiars die....

That's briliant by next spring the * Admin will only have what.....4-5 months left to continue fucking up the war....

[bemildred]

7. More bullshit from the war party. nt

[swag]

8. Will the perimeter of the 2008 Democratic National Convention look

like that of the 1968 Dem convention?

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Either that or we have crossed the rubicon

[Lydia Leftcoast]

9. COMPROMISE????!!!

Take this, Congressional Democrats: :spank:


You don't compromise with war criminals. You impeach them and send them to the Hague.

[charlie]

10. Getting kinda late for that

After Bush skates out of office, there'll probably be Dem luminaries congratulating themselves for having "averted a constitutional crisis." We've heard it all before, and it'll be a jaw-dropping surprise to me if this turns out any different.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

11. I'm afraid you're right

What a disappointment this Dem Congress is turning out to be.

And I don't care how many votes they have--they can still take a stand for what's right.

[spag68]

12. Stop complaining

and start e-mailing you sen. and rep. I have and i'm sure Hill and McCarthy are sick of hearing from me. Then start to call their offices, then write letters. Then get in the street, and hope the Sept. 15 marches are big.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. I have and you know what, the whole system is

dysfuntional, PERIOD

[Zhade]

27. Yeah, because they clearly give a fuck what we think.

NT!

[bluestateguy]

13. "Bipartisanship is another form of date rape"

--Grover Norquist

[Gloria]

14. What! Still sitting on that dry powder????

[deacon]

18. Yeah, the civil war in iraq disappeared due to the troops surge i guess.

Yeah, right.

[spanone]

19. invite them to dinner, they'll eat the table.....AGAIN

[Disturbed]

22. Compromise to Repubs means giving them everything they

demand. That's how Dems lose.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

23. Can I add...

That we need to storm the Bastille.

What a crock of total shit.

What the fuck are they drinkin' in D.C.?

It has to have some sort of ass whipping, screw-em-in-da-ass weasel juice in it.

Jesus H. Keerist on 'da cross.

[Solly Mack]

24. Unreal

[PSPS]

25. Who needs the senate?

It's the house where funding is done. The democrats could end the war quite easily by defunding it in the budget (or appropriating funds for a specific purpose, such as "orderly withdrawal.") The senate has no say over funding matters. Such a bill would pass easily in the house.

Then, when bush vetos it, who cares? Let the government shut down. Send him the same bill repeatedly.

These democrats are pussies -- terrified that rush might say something bad about them.

Utterly disgusting.

[Zhade]

26. FUCK THEM, people are dying for LIES!

I consider them criminal accomplices in their refusal to end an illegal war and hold the administration accountable for its serious breaches of the law and Constitution.

I have a long memory. And I talk to a lot of people, fearlessly.

I will NOT forget.