Brown shirted thugs at it again.

[proud2BlibKansan]

<skip>

Lillian Scott said she and her husband were in the living room discussing family plans, their 15-year-old daughter was in the garage with two friends and their 16-year-old son was in another room feeding the Scotts' 5-month-old baby.

That all changed at 9:35 p.m. she said, when Temecula police officers ---- four or five, she's not sure ----- carrying rifles charged though the unlocked front screen door and ordered the couple to the floor.

"Two of them came over and put handcuffs on the two of us," Lillian Scott said. "We asked what we had done wrong and didn't get an answer."

Elsewhere in the house other officers handcuffed their daughter and her two friends.

"(The officers) told them to get down on the f---ing floor," she said.

Her 16-year-old son, who was feeding the baby, was also ordered to the floor and handcuffed, Scott said.

From the other room, Scott heard her infant crying.

"I asked if my baby was OK and the officer told me if I moved he was going to put a bullet in my head," Scott said.

more . . . http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/09/01/news/californian/20_02_748_31_07.txt

[lonestarnot]

1. WTF

:wtf:

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. You can thank the Patriot Act

There was a horrible incident here in KC in July

http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/467625?pid=479925412 http://ineverleavethehousewithoutincident.blogspot.com/2007/07/driving-while-black-and-pregnant-in.html

and I have gotten involved in the aftermath of it. So I have been doing research on police brutality. The Patriot Act gives local cops all kinds of new powers.

[hootinholler]

27. And lots of nifty new toys to play with.

I cringe every time I see a cop in BDUs.

-Hoot

[proud2BlibKansan]

35. My son has a friend from high school who is a cop

He told my son that the cops he works with went out and drank champagne when the Patriot Act was signed.

[derby378]

58. I wore BDUs last year when I worked as a poll greeter...

Really, they're very functional and utilitarian. They let me store a flashlight so I could guide voters past muddy spots after sundown, an easy-access pouch for the cell in case of voter fraud, etc. And plenty of pocket space for more push cards and goodies.

[hootinholler]

62. Call me old-fashoned, but I have a problem with cops looking like soldiers

Especially when they are becoming more aggressive.

-Hoot

[The Doctor.]

44. The incident in the OP is not because of the Patriot Act.

At best it could be attributed to the 'War on Drugs'. Basically... someone just fucked up on the address. This has happened before Bush was in office.

That said, if it happened to my family, an apology wouldn't be enough by a long shot. They'd pay for my kids' therapy, every boot print in the house, and more. Then I'd want the head of whoever fucked up so that maybe in the future they'd confirm beyond a doubt whether they had the right place before kicking in the door.

Someone should pay, perhaps the PA makes it easier for them to get off the hook, but it didn't cause the fuck-up.

[proud2BlibKansan]

56. The Patriot Act gives cops way too much power

and their resulting arrogant attitude is causing lots of problems. So even though you can't trace this back to legal powers given in the Patriot Act, I think there is definitely an indirect connection.

[The Doctor.]

67. See #66 n/t

[Guaranteed]

65. It was probably a "no-knock" decision from the Supreme Court a year or two

ago.

[The Doctor.]

66. They might certainly have exercised that 'power', but

the fuck-up was nonetheless exclusive of the PA.

With respect to PTBLib; I do not doubt that a great deal of 'perceived license' came out of the act, but in this case only a marginal argument can be made that it was responsible for this total fuck up. (how else could you describe it?)

If the people who fucked up were sincerely bent-knee apologetic, then the human being and diplomat in me would accept their apology (with a few particular, mildly demeaning, and humorous stipulations :evilgrin: ) and get on with creating bonds with my local law enforcement rather than creating rifts.

This can be a far more powerful tact than vilifying the guys who, despite perhaps being assholes, still have to feed their families and maintain some kind of public respect.

This is not a 'Gestapo' moment if the people who fucked up are willing to admit to the fuck up... and that seems to be the case here.

Fair enough?

[proud2BlibKansan]

70. Maybe it is different where you live

But the cops here are definitely more aggressive since 9/11 and the passage of the PA.

[The Doctor.]

72. Right, but I guess what I'm saying is

that if they are willing to admit a mistake and be 'human' about it, capitalize by building bridges rather than walls.

There is much to be gained when your local police start to relate to the people they deal with.

[derby378]

2. How would those cops like it if WE burst into THEIR homes with guns drawn?

Wouldn't like it much, would they? Why won't they learn from their mistakes, already?

[Popol Vuh]

54. Exactly...

And many of those cops commit illegal act themselves. But of course when they get caught they almost always get treated differently..

Case in point: Remember this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1NnwBPaSoU

[rocktivity]

3. You've been punked, Proud2BLib

This is actually a script from an episode of Reno 911!

:eyes:
rocknation

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. Got a link?

on edit - this is from a California newspaper. Are you suggesting they are making this up?

[cosmik debris]

12. Snopes doesn't have it

Can you verify your story?

[rocktivity]

14. It was a joke--hence the eye-rolling smiley

:headbang:
rocknation

[cosmik debris]

40. I'm sorry I misunderstood your code

The eye-roll smilie can have several different meanings, so I took you at your word.

I guess I won't do that again.

[MiniMe]

6. It was the wrong house?? They went through all that and it was the wrong house?

:wtf:

I would be suing the pants off of them.

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. It was a 2 story house

and the one they wanted was one story. Not a minor mistake.

[rocktivity]

11. And the worst part is, they SHOULD HAVE KNOWN it was the wrong house.

If what I see on Cops is any indication, there are meetings before these raids with a diagram of the place to be hit. Getting the address wrong would have been bad enough if they'd both houses had the same number of stories. But confusing a one-story with a two-story is the stuff that episodes of Reno 911 are of!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Marr]

32. They get the wrong address ALOT.

I don't know how they manage to fuck up something so simple so often. There are some pretty damn good computerized map tools if these guys are too fucking stupid to read a number on a house.

[Jed Dilligan]

42. Lucky they didn't burn the house down with flash-bangs.

I guess the family wasn't black or Chicano, hence the news report.

[sakabatou]

8. What the FUCK?!

[LiberalAndProud]

9. Sorry ma'am, wrong address ...

Incompetence to the limit, I'd say.

[Ezlivin]

10. The War on Drugs is way, way off the rails

With the government is pushing to link all drug use with terrorism, we can expect this sort of "wrong house" scenario to repeatedly be played out.

When will Americans be safe in their own homes? Answer: Never. Either the terrorists are going to get you or overzealous police officers will.

[niyad]

19. during the late 60's and early 70's--many fbi raids on wrong houses, and a number of people died.

as I was quite active in ther anti war movement, figured there was every chance it would happen to me.

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. My friend moved into a new apartment in 1971 when she was an undergrad

and the cops barged into her apartment in the middle of the night. They made her take off all her clothes and they trashed her apartment. While she was sitting there nude and handcuffed, she felt a bright light and turned and saw a TV camera! The local officials in her town had invited the press along as they raided drug houses! And my friend learned that the person who had rented her apartment before she moved in was a drug dealer.

My friend's dad was an attorney and by the time he got done with the local officials and the news media, her college education - including grad school - was paid for. :)

[niyad]

28. so glad your friend got something worthwhile out of it--these bullies with badges need to be brought

under control.

the local police force has a number of officers who have had numerous citizen complaints filed against them. not that it does any good. the latest travesty occurred during a st. paddy's day parade, which included a number of peace activisits. the police were called in, and dragged seven of them off the street--including a 65 year old woman who walks with a cane.--they dragged her 35 feet across the asphalt, with such force that her pants were pulled off, resultiing in severe lacerations, and a dislocated shoulder. they tasered one person, and put a choke hold on a 73 year old man--who just happens to head the local ACLU chapter. of course, this is also the only city in the world, apart from a city in greece, where peace activists were tear gassed on 15 feb 2003.

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. I saw that video!

That poor woman - how is she doing now?

[niyad]

46. she is recovering--the dislocated shoulder cost her a fortune in medical bills, though. she, and

the others involved, were tried by our idiot city attorney--resulted in a hung jury.

we are waiting to see whether the group (now known as the st paddy's day 7) are going to sue the city. will keep you posted if you are interested.

[proud2BlibKansan]

55. Yes I am definitely interested

Keep me posted. Thanks! :hi:

[Richard D]

13. You mean . . .

. . . they didn't handcuff the baby too? Them terrist babies could be carrin weapons.

What country is this again?

[Webster Green]

15. This stuff happens all the time..

There is no excuse for these incidents. Cops are out of control. They need to do their homework before they start kicking in doors and attacking citizens.

Assholes!

[liberalmuse]

18. I can't even watch 'COPS'.

Some policeman barged into my sister's home, accusing her of harboring one of my nephews friends who had run away from home. They were assholes and treated her like she was a criminal without any proof whatsoever. She let them look in her house and they left without so much as an apology. They do stuff like this all the time, and people are so taken aback and in shock that they don't think to tell them they had better get a fucking warrant first. Of course, under Bush, they no longer need a warrant. I have a problem with many cops and security guards. Granted, there are some decent policemen, but many people attracted to positions of authority are the sorts that should NEVER be given power.

[Webster Green]

29. Can't get to the romote quick enough when that show comes on..

Fucking voyeuristic train-wreck. Dumb-ass cracker cops who think they are heroes for making the lives of those they encounter just a little more miserable and pitiful than they already are.

Of course the intro by the great reggae band "Inner Circle" is nice. Don't miss these guys live if you get a chance. They rock!

[kestrel91316]

41. Heck, here in Los Angeles LAPD treats crime VICTIMS like criminals.

They are rude and uncooperative and have a snotty, derisive attitude with just about anyone who calls them for help or goes in to file a complaint. They seem to think that if you are the victim of a crime you must have done something to deserve it - and they DON'T reserve that attitude for just rape victims.

I'm white, middle-aged, and a business-owning medical professional. If this is MY experience with them, try to imagine for one minute how they treat poor folks and minorities.

[proud2BlibKansan]

57. Same deal in the suburban area where I live

I was pulled over for going 27 in a 25 mph zone not long ago. Two frickin miles over the speed limit!! And the cop was an ass.

Another time I was pulled over in another suburb here and the cop wanted to know what I was doing. I said 'driving down the street'. He told me not to get smart with him. And he asked me again why I was there. So I asked him if it was illegal to drive down the street in this city. He said no but he could ticket me for being rude to him. So I asked him if I was in the USA or East Germany. He didn't answer and walked back to his car. He held me forever (checking on warrants!) and gave me a ticket for going 5 miles over the speed limit. I was NOT speeding so I called his police chief the next day to file a complaint and he explained that there were a couple drug houses in that neighborhood and they generally pulled over everyone who was in the area who didn't live there. And he asked why I was there. So I told him I am a teacher and I was going to visit a student who lived 2 blocks from where I was pulled over. So the chief said well we can just throw out your ticket then. So I asked for a letter to verify that and he refused. And he told me not to get 'smart' with one of his officers again!

So I waited 2 weeks and called the court in that city and sure enough, the chief had not thrown out the ticket. So I paid it. Five years later, I found out they had never recorded my payment and had issued a fucking warrant! That was only slightly embarrassing; my employer had run a background check on me and called me to tell me to take care of the warrant. So then I called the prosecutor in that city and told him I paid the ticket already, I should never have been issued a ticket in the first place, I had the canceled check and I was faxing him a copy. I told him if I didn't get a letter faxed back to me in 24 hours I was going to hire an attorney and make as much noise as I could about this ridiculous travesty of justice. And he apologized plus he sent a letter to my employer explaining that the warrant was a mistake.

So yes, I am a white middle aged soccer mom and I hate cops. I can't even imagine how they hassle brown skinned people and how that makes those people feel. I know how they hassle kids since I have 2 boys in their 20s. Hence, I think of most of them as brown shirted thugs. With the exception of the DARE officer at my school, I have met no cops I liked.

[liberalmuse]

16. All involved in the raid need to be FIRED.

If you are so fucking stupid that you would raid a house like that, without being able to tell the difference between a normal family and a house full of dangerous criminals, you should not be in law enforcement. If you lack the ability to observe and use common sense, I don't think you should be carrying a weapon. Did any of these guys even question BEFORE they terrorized this family that maybe they had the wrong house? Seriously, every one of those assholes need to be fired, and then after that, permanently barred from ever being so much as a security guard. Unbelievable. And we think that most of our military and law enforcement would not do Bush's bidding. Sorry to say, but many of our finest are trained to take orders first and to think last.

[daninthemoon]

24. "Normal Family" houses also have drugs. Part of the insanity of

the war on drugs. That may be why this expert task force couldn't tell the difference. It may be just the kind of houses they hit all the time. Wondr what would have happened if they had found a joint?

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. This was a 2 story house

and the one they wanted was one story.

Kind of a dumb mistake, don't you think?

[daninthemoon]

34. Yeah it was dumb. You would hope they could count to two. Once

they were in the house though, it may have looked like many other raids they had done. Just lucky no-one got killed.

[Hubert Flottz]

17. Dirty Harry rides again?

Jackson man killed in police call

Family disputes State Police version of fatal shooting by trooper

A state trooper on Saturday shot dead the same Jackson County man who had jumped off a bridge spanning the Ohio River in June, just days after his two children died in a boating accident.

Family members disputed the State Police account of the shooting late Sunday, claiming the trooper shot Fisher “in cold blood.”

A trooper assigned to the Jackson County State Police detachment shot Michael Shane Fisher, 35, of Windell Ridge Road in the Fairplain area, at about 11:11 p.m. Saturday, according to a State Police news release.

State Police Sgt. S.E. Wolfe said the trooper would not be identified by name Sunday. Wolfe said the trooper has 81/2 years experience and will be placed on administrative leave, which is standard procedure after this type of incident....MORE...

http://www.wvgazette.com/section/News/2007090219

[provis99]

63. Ugh, I know Jackson County

My friend got a "Driving While Black" arrest there. He was driving back to Ohio from Washington, DC, got lost, and was pulled over for driving too slow (he was driving slow to try and figure out where the fuck he was). Since he was driving his stepmom's car, the deputy accused him of stealing the car, and of being a drug dealer. He stayed in jail for a week til I could bail him out. Of course no charge was filed, but he ironically got a ticket for speeding! (Yeah, speeding while driving too slow. Boggles the mind). He just paid the damn fine and swore he'd never drive through West Virginia again.

[shanti]

64. "administrative leave"

you mean to say, he fucks up and gets a friggin paid vacation out of it??

[Toasterlad]

20. And, Cue the Police Apologists In 3...2...1...

[niyad]

22. read the commentary on the story at the link--some of those people are frightening.

[Toasterlad]

31. Yeah, That's About What I Expected.

"Didn't you ever make a mistake at YOUR job?" "The cop just made an honest mistake." "Mistakes happen."

Call me crazy, but I think if your job requires you to walk around with a sidearm, there should be a zero tolerance policy against "mistakes".

[Trillo]

36. Are you crazy? :)

"Zero Tolerance" is only for little people.

[niyad]

21. one of the scariest things is that those involved are basically going to get off--AND the unit will

be reactivated. shades of ed davis, darryl gates, etc.

[backscatter712]

26. If my door gets kicked down,

I open fire with my shotgun. I don't care if they're cops. I'll see how many of the fuckers I can take down before I get sent to hell myself.

What can I say? Act like stormtroopers, get treated like stormtroopers.

[NeoConsSuck]

60. You got that right!

Some nice links:

http://stolenlives.org/

http://www.october22.org/

[EFerrari]

33. This is how I got arrested for crying in my livingroom. Someone

made a mistake and the next thing I knew, I was in the back of a patrol car, barefoot.

I thought at the time it was a collaterable liability / insurance problem for the PD. But, there's something unbelievably wrong with the way these people are being trained to handle the public.

This is horrendous.


/oops

[proud2BlibKansan]

38. My friend David went to a fund raiser for our blue dog dem congressman

and stood outside on a PUBLIC sidewalk holding a sign asking the congressman to end the war. One of the congressman's supporters drove into the parking lot, parked his car, walked back across the lot to where David was, grabbed his sign and ripped it in two. Then he pulled out his cell phone and called 911.

Guess who ended up in the back of the police car in handcuffs? Hint: it wasn't the guy who ripped up the sign. :)

[EFerrari]

39. So, he was assaulted and then, arrested for it.

We need to start a club or something. :wow:

[krispos42]

37. SWAT Overkill: The Danger of a Paramilitary Police Force

SWAT Overkill: The Danger of a Paramilitary Police Force{/big]

In a guest editorial, law professor and instapundit.com blogger Glenn Reynolds argues that overagressive tactics and surplus military gear have turned some police units into a dangerous menace.

By Glenn Harlan Reynolds
Published on: November 28, 2006

SOLDIERS AND POLICE are supposed to be different. Soldiers are aimed at enemies from outside the country. They are trained to kill those enemies, and their supporters. In fact, “killing people and breaking things” are their main reasons for existence.

<snip>

It’s the difference between Audie Murphy and Andy Griffith. But nowadays, police are looking, and acting, more like soldiers than cops, with bad consequences. And those who suffer the consequences are usually innocent civilians. The trend toward militarizing police began in the ’60s and ’70s when standoffs with the Black Panthers, the Symbionese Liberation Army, and the University of Texas bell tower gunman Charles Whitman convinced many police departments that they needed more than .38 specials to deal with unusual, high-intensity threats. In 1965 Los Angeles inspector Daryl Gates, who later became police chief, signed off on the formation of a specially trained and equipped unit that he wanted to call the Special Weapons Attack Team. (The name was changed to the more palatable Special Weapons and Tactics). SWAT programs soon expanded beyond big cities with gang problems.

Abetting this trend was the federal government’s willingness to make surplus military equipment available to police and sheriffs’ departments. All sorts of hardware is available, from M-16s to body armor to armored personnel carriers and even helicopters. Lots of police departments grabbed the gear and started SWAT teams, even if they had no real need for them. The materiel was free, and it was fun. I don’t blame the police. Heck, if somebody gave me a Bradley Fighting Vehicle to play with, I’d probably start a SWAT team, too—so long as I didn’t have to foot the maintenance bill.

<snip>

And, in a case that is now drawing national attention, 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston, who lived in a high-crime neighborhood of Atlanta, recently opened fire on police when they broke down her door while executing a drug warrant. They returned fire, killing her. It’s hard to believe any of this would have happened had the police taken a less aggressive approach in the first place.

<more>

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/4203345.html

And for those that do not know who Audie Murphy is...

Audie Leon Murphy (June 20, 1924 – May 28, 1971) <2> was an American soldier in World War II, and later became a famous actor, in 44 American films,<2> plus a songwriter.<3> In 27 months of combat action, Murphy became the most decorated United States combat soldier of World War II.<2><3> He received the Medal of Honor, the U.S. military's highest award for valor, along with 32 additional U.S. medals,<2><3> five from France, and one from Belgium.<1><2><4>

Murphy had a successful movie career, including the extremely popular To Hell and Back (1955), based on his memoir of the same name (1949),<3> also starring in 33 Hollywood Westerns. Audie Murphy died in a plane crash in 1971<3> and was interred, with full military honors,<3> in Arlington National Cemetery (his is the 2nd most-visited gravesite, after JFK).<3> <4> <1>

<snip>

Medal of Honor citation
The official U.S. Army citation for Audie Murphy's Medal of Honor reads: <1> <7>

Rank and organization: Second Lieutenant, U.S. Army, Company B 15th Infantry, 3rd Infantry Division.
Place and date: Near Holtzwihr France, 26 January 1945.
Entered service at: Dallas, Texas. Birth: Hunt County, near Kingston, Texas, G.O. No. 65, 9 August 1944.
Citation: Second Lt. Murphy commanded Company B, which was attacked by six tanks and waves of infantry.<1><7> 2d Lt. Murphy ordered his men to withdraw to a prepared position in a woods, while he remained forward at his command post and continued to give fire directions to the artillery by telephone. Behind him, to his right, one of our tank destroyers received a direct hit and began to burn. Its crew withdrew to the woods. 2d Lt. Murphy continued to direct artillery fire, which killed large numbers of the advancing enemy infantry. With the enemy tanks abreast of his position, 2d Lt. Murphy climbed on the burning tank destroyer, which was in danger of blowing up at any moment, and employed its .50 caliber machine gun against the enemy. He was alone and exposed to German fire from three sides, but his deadly fire killed dozens of Germans and caused their infantry attack to waver. The enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back. For an hour the Germans tried every available weapon to eliminate 2d Lt. Murphy, but he continued to hold his position and wiped out a squad that was trying to creep up unnoticed on his right flank. Germans reached as close as 10 yards, only to be mowed down by his fire. He received a leg wound, but ignored it and continued his single-handed fight until his ammunition was exhausted. He then made his way back to his company, refused medical attention, and organized the company in a counterattack, which forced the Germans to withdraw. His directing of artillery fire wiped out many of the enemy; he killed or wounded about 50. 2d Lt. Murphy's indomitable courage and his refusal to give an inch of ground saved his company from possible encirclement and destruction, and enabled it to hold the woods which had been the enemy's objective. <1><7>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audie_Murphy

[acmavm]

43. A homocide cop once told me that if a lot of the guys he worked with

weren't in blue uniforms, they'd be behind bars. (I'm paraphrasing, but you get the idea.)

[BlueJac]

45. What happened to America?

George W. Bush and the Neo-Cons destroyed America without even a shot!


I just sit and shake my head wondering how the Congress and the Senate could be so lame and cowardly to let this happen to this once free and proud country!!


I say. "shame on all of you weak kneed failures at leadership!" What am I going to tell my grandchildren about how this counrty was torn apart by fools?

[Malikshah]

47. At end of article: Statement by Chief says it all--the bastard.

Regarding the investigation into the Street Enforcement Team, Williams said he wants to get to the bottom of things, one way or another.

"I want to get to the facts or get them exonerated, I think we owe it to (the officers)," the chief said.

Really? The Officers? So a few apologies and shifty moves to make sure your little SS force isn't sued within an inch of its life? Reprimands?

Shameful.

[tblue37]

48. I would not accept any settlement that was worth less than several million.

[baldguy]

49. They got an apology and an investigation.

That's more than most victims of police harassment get.

[Trillo]

50. Isn't it "amazing" the police never seem to make these "mistakes"

at corporate or government offices.

[BlackVelvet04]

51. I'm not afraid of criminals busting into my house....

I have a gun and can at least try to protect myself from them, but when the cops bust in you don't have a defense. We, the citizens, are now the enemy of the state and they feel free to use whatever tactics necessary to "control crime."

[Warren DeMontague]

52. Why do you hate freedom? For all you know, the house they were SUPPOSED to raid contained

a dangerous pot-smoking cancer granny!

Cut 'em some slack, people make mistakes. What good is a $40 Billion a year War on Drugs aimed primarily at marijuana smoking by consenting adults, if amped-up, assault weapon wielding cops in riot gear can't kick down a few random doors once in a while?

Sure, the looneytarian types, with their ultra-darwinist "me, me, me" crap about rights and liberty an' all that selfish, idiotic blathering personal freedom whiny shit will bitch that what a person does with his or her own body is their own business, but you know a looneytarian is just a republican that smokes pot, anyway, har har har harrrr!

It gets boring for these SWAT team types, sometimes, pissing away taxpayer dollars dragging non-violent offenders off to ridiculous mandatory minimum prison sentences. These dudes are under a lot of stress!

:sarcasm: :rant:

[uppityperson]

53. Glad none of them were killed. Incredible. nt

[Greyskye]

59. Too bad they couldn't tell it was a 2 story house until they were inside.

:sarcasm:

[Ghost in the Machine]

61. I got thrown down in a wrong house raid in Homestead Fla in 1988

.. this is nothing new, nor does it have anything to do with the Patriot Act, as I saw suggested above in one of the first replies.

I was at a friend's house and I was down the hall in the bathroom. I heard a commotion out in the living room, but didn't know what was going on. I came walking down the hall, and when I stepped into the living room I was met with an M-16 in my face and told to "hit the floor". I dove face down spread eagle on the damn floor in mid stride! I heard him say "I need a floater over here"... and someone said "I've got him". I raised my eyes up as far as good without moving my head and saw a guy crouched at the front door with a pistol pointed at my head.

They patted us down, cuffed us and sat us on the couch while they started going through the house. We heard them talking about looking for drugs, and we told them there weren't any in the house. It was probably 30 -45 minutes before they realized they were at the wrong place. Funny part was, there was a camera crew there and they were filming it. I think it was supposed to be COPS episode, but they blew it big time. They didn't rough us up, and were actually pretty nice to us the whole time... if you don't count the guns stuck in your face.

They sure didn't offer us no settlement or anything though...

Hey, these guys put their lives on the line every day. They are only human though, and they do make mistakes sometimes. At least it didn't cost anyone their life this time, thankfully.

[shance]

68. Shades of Iraq happening here.

n/t

[aikoaiko]

69. There really needs to be serious consequences for these kind of mistakes.

Its almost impossible for this to happen without some kind of negligence on the LEOs part.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

71. "Prepare to get fucked by the long dick of the law."

These clowns sound just like the cops in Superbad.