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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:52 PM Original message |
Rape isn't terrorism. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. . |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. for the 10,000 th time |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
120. i'd add that it also terrorizes the community of women |
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spindoctor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. Terrorism is never targeted at individuals but at society at large |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Of course, it's goddamn terrorism |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
124. It's terrorism WHEN it's used to terrorize populations. |
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LeftofU (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Wasn't rape used as terror weapon in Africa? |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. read this and tell me if it changes your mind at all. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I can't believe that ANYONE on this board |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. sing it sister. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. sadly... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. it is a matter of education.. when we educate it isnt intollerance folks, you have to keep repeating |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. got to educate still in the 21st century and the noChildLeftBehind'ers are even worse, lost children |
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spindoctor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Yawl are getting worked up over semantics |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. so raping groups of women is not terrorism? Women aren't part of society? |
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spindoctor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Fine! when large groups of women (or men) are raped to intimidate for political reasons its terroris |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. ok! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Historically, it's women that bear the |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Rape can be terrorism, can be used that way. Glad you agree with that. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. as in, every military conflict? |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #20 |
130. The personal is political. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. You should be ducking |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. because you dont F'n get it... why are you arguing, terrorism is a tactic, rape is a tactic if terro... |
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spindoctor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. No |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Then the victims of 9/11 were victims of just murder and not terrorism? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. It's not about "bad enough" . It's about |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
107. Because rape |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Actually, rape of the losing society's women and children is a typical act in war |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. You explained it perfectly |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I'm going to have to disagree |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. spin much ... |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
67. I think something has happened... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Terrorism is what happens to a group, trauma to a person |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. Thank you. Now that I understand. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
76. So the WTC wasn't terrorism, Oklahoma City wasn't terrorism ... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #76 |
104. to clarify the language and concept: rape is *an instrument of ...* - persecution? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
86. It terrorizes women, isn't that enough? n/t |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
90. And you don't think that rape is being used that way, right now? |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
105. It seems a sure bet |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
109. Tell that to the women of Dahfur |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
117. Abusive spouses TERRORIZE their partners EVERY DAY... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
123. So, 9/11 was murder and assault, not terrorism? |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #3 |
129. Rape and the fear of rape oppresses half of the population. |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. Tell them to tell that to my daughter. fuckers n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. It is painful to hear this |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
55. Thanks cali. They terrorized and tortured her for several hours. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. I'm so sorry. For you and for your daughter. |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #65 |
116. Thanks, Midlo. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #55 |
118. "Blame the victims and a complete lack of empathy" |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Raped, "how were you dressed, where were you?" Beaten, then it's, |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. It is a particular brand of self-righteousness: |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #122 |
126. I am still arguing -thru my mother- with my puke sisters about this very issue. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. (((vickiss))) |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
57. (((Solly))) |
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wellstone dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. And to mine |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. (((wellstone dem & daughter))) |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
59. wellstone dem, I hear you hard. |
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wellstone dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Thanks Vickiss and Thanks Solly and Mandate |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. It does help healing to cry. Somedays not so easy |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. sorry about your daughter and wellstone dem's daughter |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
63. Thank you, Mandate. I've learned that all any of us can do is take what comes, |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
13. Rape can also be genocide |
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spindoctor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. no it cant |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. I agree that rape isn't genocide though it's often |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Yes. Please take your "reasoning" elsewhere |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Unbelievable ignorance. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
66. Actually kind of mild compared to what I've seen |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Word. n/t |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. in the Balkans rape was genocide, women were murdered by their own families if it was even thought |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. How can rape be genocide? I am asking seriously. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. right above ya |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. rape or say you raped so the women would be killed? Got it. Thanks. |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Yup and it's also used as a weapon in race warfare |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #53 |
89. That sort of use of rape dates back to the old testament |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
85. I don't know the history of rape as genocide precisely but |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. Most people think of terrorism as something against a political movement,system,etc. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. One more time: Rape is one of the oldest and most well established |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. You can say it a hundred times. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
37. "Someone just informed me of that" |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. and that pretty much wraps it's up. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. no not an idiot.. just uninformed, but it is all better now isnt it..?? |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. If that "someone" is here ...they are choosing to be uninformed ... |
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mentalsolstice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
46. Don't even get me started! |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
47. rape in "peacetime" reflects/enacts the political ideology of male dominance |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. peace time is a relative concept, if you live in a gang ridden neighborhood it is warfare, and being |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
54. Prison rape is terrorism. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
92. Why is prison rape not "just" standard interpersonal violence? |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Because it is perpetrated, arranged, or condoned by guards |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Rape occurs in women's prisons too |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. Of course it does, |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. But it's only terrorism when the victims are male |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. You just love making up fights in your head |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. So a lot of individual men just "happen" to use the same tactic to exert dominance over women? |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Once again, the discussion strays |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Interesting, and telling, response |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Stop putting shit on me. |
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spirit of wine (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
56. A Thread Worthy To Follow |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
60. Terrorism? I thought... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. uh, where the fuck do you think |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Hey...who are you? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. First of all, sorry you were raped. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Pardon me... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. I know what rape is too. I was raped. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Why is it .... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Just as there are a myriad of motives for murder |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. Thank you...someone up-thread explained... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Peace and thank you for your kind response |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. it's amazing... |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. WTF? |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
68. Of Course It Is. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. not according to several people on this thread who |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Interesting isn't it? |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Well put |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. Precisely |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. Word, TL. And good thread cali. Thanks. n/t |
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spirit of wine (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
83. People are not just going to forget |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
88. Tell that to the women in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. It doesn't matter who told that to me |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. And this is tame compared to some |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Yeah, I know. It was really more of a rhetorical question nt |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
101. Even in countries like the US, many women feel the terror of rape. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
103. Of course it is. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
114. I read the exchange and I agree that poster is an idiot |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
115. Rape is certainly often used as an instrument of terrorism |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
119. Not only blind, |
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justanaveragedude (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
125. which side defines terrorism? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. Agreed, which is I said |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
128. Rape IS terrorism. It's the most pervasive kind of terrorism in the world. |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
131. I agree. |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
132. To terrorise a population,any method can be used. Rape is probably one of the most common. |
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