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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:05 PM
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Who cares about Diana?
Why is the media spending so much time on her? Didn't we fight a war so we wouldn't be bother by the monarch anymore?
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:06 PM
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1. Bush is our absolute monarch now.
fyi
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:07 PM
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2. For all the Diana-haters who are going to be posting in this thread:
Please tell me specifically what action she did that made you hate her.
Hating her simply for being who she was is discrimination. I want to know exactly what she did, where and when, that makes you hate her.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:10 PM
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3. Who said anything about hate?
She's just another blond pretty girl. 1000s of tragedies occur everyday. But those are people who are not blond.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:57 PM
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23. Well, considering some of the replies to this thread I started 2 days ago:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1703003&mesg_id=1703003

There are plenty of Diana-haters on DU. Not that I was an adoring fan of her, but I did like the fact that she took her fame and celebrity and used it to promote good causes.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:12 PM
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4. I don't hate Diana. I just don't care about any discussion of her.
She was a famous woman who died in a car crash about 10 years ago. What's there to discuss, and what's the fascination with her?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:28 PM
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38. And yet, here you are.
Parading ignorance like a flag.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:17 PM
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27. I like her..for one thing Diana was trying
to get rid of Land Mines..and it fucking sucks the way the stalkerazzie helped ram her and her fellow passengers and driver into that wall of the tunnel in Paris.

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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:03 PM
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39. She had a great, self deprecating sense of humor. She wasn't perfect but I
always felt her heart was in the right place plus she was against all the pomposity of the monarchy.

That's why I was disappointed by her son's memorial to her yesterday as it represented so much pageantry and Brit pomp that she was so much against.

I wonder if they were too young to really have understood what she was all about.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:13 PM
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5. Princess Di Was A Liberal/Progressive...


......It wasn't below her to visit the poorest of poor and make them to feel as if they on her level which is more than many Libs/Progressives in this country can say....

If only this country could be blessed with a first lady of her caliber...
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:15 PM
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7. Bingo!
She was as close to the Real Deal as they've ever had. Made the Royals (and their friends) look bad.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:34 PM
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11. Isn't "liberal/progressive royalty" kind of a contradiction in terms?
eom
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:52 PM
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19. Only if there is no such thing as free will. nt
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:01 PM
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24. I was thinking more along the lines of...
... great amounts of state sponsored wealth and privilege based upon heredity and the divine right of kings.

Seems like anyone that actively participates and propagates this system would be difficult to classify as a liberal/progressive.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:21 PM
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28. Oh, I *agree* that she wouldn't be considered as a Liberal/Progressive
compared to some of the people I know (Catholic Worker House & American Friends Service Committee). And in comparison to whom I also do not really rank as a Liberal/Progressive. But within her context, Diana WAS more of a Liberal/Progressive than those around her.

No one's perfect; I always considered her emotional problems pretty self-absorbed, but that didn't mean that she didn't have genuine feelings for ordinary people.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:21 PM
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29. She was very liberal and progressive on social issues such as AIDS, land mines, etc.
But she herself stated, "I'm not a political animal, really." So I don't think she had much to say about the endless class war in England or anywhere else.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:09 PM
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41. It puts her above the Paris/Anna Nicole type
And all those other girls the press loves to spend so much time on.

She was not entirely frivolous, as they are.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:13 PM
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6. UK is our Best Buddy and Diana was a "people's" princess.
The Queen, traditional royalty, hated her. There are even theories about assasination, because Diana, the mother of the future king of the UK, could become the live-in girlfriend, or even wife, of Fayd, an Arab(?), someone else the Royals hated even more than Diana and maybe she would even bear him children. Lionel was talking about this yesterday on Air America Radio.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:15 PM
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26. Uh, don't think the U.K. is the U.S's best bud.
I don't think the Queen gave a @$##$# who Diana was bagging. ;)
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coco77 Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:22 PM
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8. I cared when she died, and felt empathy and sympathy for her sons.
I watched the funeral and sang the song over and over that Elton John rewrote for her but, I do not want to see a story about Diana over and over each year as is done with a lot of people. They can talk about her but not have a day of Diana like msnbc did. What is it doing for me to re-live this over and over. I hear about her more than I have heard about a lot of historic figures in history..
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:25 PM
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9. "royalty"
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percussivemadness Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:33 PM
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10. diana was a bloody lunatic
she was despised by English people after her Panorama (BBC TV NEWS SHOW), the whole pathetic nonsense that has built up around her after she died is disgusting and a testimony to the grotesque hypocrisy of people who are manipulated by slick TV revisionism.

Peace
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:37 PM
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13. Well, no.
Although I'm sure that thought comforts you.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:41 PM
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15. Peace?
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:54 PM
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:12 PM
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25. There are low-level rhetorical skills.
Most dominant semantic characteristic = false dichotomies . . . as though the words mean absolutely ONLY what the user assumes they mean and, of course, anyone who disagrees is an idiot.

It's SOOOO transparent **really** and funny that such voices are apparently unaware of their own contradictions and how limited they appear to others. They embarass themselves and don't even know it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 04:51 PM
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32. "Peace!" hahahahaha
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:36 PM
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12. She isn't a monarch, she's a goddess.
She was goddess incarnate while she lived, and now she the real thing. That should have been perfectly obvious when every place she had ever visited became a shrine the day after her death.

I understand that the deification process is not one we profess to be comfy with, but it goes on all the time. There are minor deities and, rarely, biggies. Diana is a biggie.

And if that does not conform to your imposed religion, tough noogies. It seems to be the actual natural religious process for the human being.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:49 PM
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18. I have a little difficulty with the deity thing, but . . .
I agree with you in other ways.

Every person's life has physical effects upon reality ( us + the world ). Some effects are such that that person's life may be classified as a "higher order of power". There are levels of these higher orders of powers, ranging from more to less universal in their effects.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:41 PM
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14. I do.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:41 PM
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16. So do I.
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:49 PM
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17. My late partner referred to her as...
The Royal Brood Sow.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:55 PM
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21. better late than never
eh?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 04:53 PM
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34. That was an accurate description of her purpose
your late partner was absolutely correct
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:55 PM
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22. It's the 10th anniversary of the death of a much-beloved public figure.
I suppose I'd be surprised if the media DIDN'T spend some time on her.
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skul_Donteecha Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 04:43 PM
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30. I don't love her or hate her.....
but I do miss her. She brought a glow of warmth to this cranky work with style and grace but mostly, among those of the world who have the wherewithall to get things done, despite being royalty, she got off her duff and did the kinds of things we say we are for, She raised money for the poor and starving people of the world, brought needed supplies to places around the world and spread hope to people who had lost it.
Why is her passing such a big deal? Because we all should be the kind of people she was.:grouphug:
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 04:47 PM
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31. A Lot Of People Do, And With Good Cause. She Wasn An Overwhelmingly Wonderful Person.
She absolutely deserves and earned any of the coverage she's getting. The world could use a million more Princess Di's.

May God rest her soul.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 04:51 PM
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33. She was royalty on the world's biggest aircraft carrier...The USS Britannia...
she was also a somewhat photogenic parasite with a conscience
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 04:54 PM
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35. Diana, first public figure to hug HIV-positive people on camera to reduce their stigma
Prior to her marriage, she volunteered at a mental hospital when all of her school friends were afraid to. She raised awareness of bulemia, land mines, gave her retired eveningwear to be auctioned at Christie's for AIDS foundations....

Yeah, what a loser. Who cares about remembering her?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 04:59 PM
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36. While I absolutely despise royalty, she was the best they ever produced. She was a good person.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:02 PM
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37. Diana seemed like
a very nice person, put in a situation that destroyed here privacy and wrecked her personal life.
A tragic death, as would be for any young mother.
That said, I really don't care that much more about her and what angers me is the Media obsession with her 10 years after her death. Royalty is based on the divine rights of Kings. It is as silly and as outdated as the Earth centered Universe.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:04 PM
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40. Change the channel. That's part of freedom too.
But others do care: hence the media spending time on her.
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