C'mon, you know you want some junk science with your coffee.Evolution tells us why "girls like pink"

[Katherine Brengle]

Oh yeah, you know you gotta read it: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/08/science-confirm.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294272,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1654371,00.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/21/girlie_pink/
Etc - the media drank this garbage up - we do so love having ev science legitimize our ridiculous social mores.

Study abstract: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VRT-4PG33JY-8&_user=10&_coverDate=08%2F21%2F2007&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=3395720c33751a8edf6eddec710b06ff

But then you really *really* want to read this: http://www.badscience.net/?p=518#more-518

And try this, just for fun: http://www.neiu.edu/~tschuepf/bsri.html

Yeah. It's not like we "like" it because we've been told we like it since we were born. Ugh. And it's not like men tend to shy away from it because it would be seriously socially undudely to like pink.

Also, to draw the conclusion that women prefer pink for all of the reasons listed (maybe, and even then, stupid circular logic reigns supreme and social factors seem not to play their very obvious role bah) yet not really be able to figure out why men supposedly prefer blue... blech.

Anyway, enjoy.

[displacedtexan]

1. I knew a Social Work prof whose "scientific" study "definitively" proved...

... that college-aged boys preferred women with large breasts.

Earth shattering.

[treestar]

5. Back when I was in college, the men were not so shallow

This was the 70s, but there was still a concept of romance to people's relationships. It was still mysterious and alluring and not mathmatical and shallow. So a lot of girls had boyfriends, even if they weren't perfect in every way.

I feel sorry for girls today. It seems to have deteriorated to the point where there is nothing but measurements and experience/performance.

[Tsiyu]

21. I don't know if i worry so much about the kids

I know a lot of kids (college age) and the young men and women seem much more appreciative and understanding of each other. They also seem more willing to talk about gender roles and are FAR less homophobic - practically none i know are this way - than guys of my generation.

As a 48-year-old, I just gotta say the real freaks are in my age group. Those are the guys who have all of the stereotypes, all of the pie-in-the-sky beliefs about women, lots of bitterness and none of the enlightenment the years should have given them. Not all, mind you, but the vast majority of datable guys my age are kind of backward and immature when it comes to understanding women.

This is just my experience YRMV

[treestar]

40. Same age here

Also 48. I'm going off TV and stuff, but so far the younger people I know do all right, so you're probably right.

It is usually the ones my age, or older who lecture me about their advantages - how we age badly while they age well, how we have to be younger than they for them to like us and how that gives them an advantage, they have a longer shelf life, blah, blah, and all that sickening and annoying stuff that makes me wonder why it is so important to them to have 100% total control.

[Tsiyu]

50. So funny, huh? that "aging" thing

When I first met him at work I would not SPEAK to this guy who made that "women age harder than men" comment. I had heard that he said that from a friend.

I laughed at first, thinking "I get hit on more now than I did when I was a young thing" and every time he showed up at work looking 'worn' i would laugh to myself.

Too many guys my age just live in La La Land.

Anyway, he's turned out to be a pretty nice guy who *surprise* has hit on me more than a few times. I resist the urge to tell him he's too old for me ;)

[notadmblnd]

74. Sick, broke or married

Seem to be all that's out there. I'm 48 and widowed four years now, I definitely feel your pain.

[H2O Man]

2. I like pink n/t

[terisan]

3. Elvis Presley also liked pink. nt

[H2O Man]

6. Walker Smith,

better known as Sugar Ray Robinson, had a flamingo-pink cadillac.

[terisan]

36. Really? Sugar Ray in a Flamingo Pink Caddy.....I like that showmanship. nt

[H2O Man]

39. Oh, it was beautiful.

I might be able to find an old photo of it. Ray had style.

[maddezmom]

12. so does my husband and he looks great in it

:D Come to think of it, so does my son. I buy a lot of pink all my kids. :)

[Pithlet]

37. My three and a half year old son's favorite color is pink.

Your kids are so adorable, BTW :hi:

[Lorien]

54. My best friend's four year old boy was wild about pink too

she did finally buy him a hot pink and teal fleece cap that he had been coveting. My dad also looks great in pink.


I never thought that it was an issue worth fussing about. Most babies look pretty genderless, so wearing pink or blue just helps the rest of the world know how it address the child ( using "it" to address the child is not favored among most parents, after all).

[treestar]

4. Barbie products and their ads are everywhere

Everything Barbie owns is pink. Her CD player is pink. Her briefcase is pink.

Even if a girl doesn't own a Barbie, she'd still know about them.

And the boys can get the message as young as age two. They KNOW pink means girls.

My nephews were about three when they knew not to touch the pink can of play-dough! They picked that knowledge up very quickly and easily.

Hasbro or Mattel or whoever has made sure of that.

My nephews took care of their little Ernie dolls and called themselves "Daddy" for quite a while before they learned it was "wrong." One of them wanted to learn to cook until he got old enough to learn how "wrong" that was.

Our pervasive culture teaches the kids and effectively does it so early that people honestly think it's "genetic."

Since little girls get pink and little boys get blue from infancy, they've already "learned" which color they "prefer."

[Katherine Brengle]

14. Right?

I'm sad for your nephews, having their natural instincts to care about other things and beings squashed by the patriarchy.

[Clark2008]

27. This guy likes to cook:

And I defy anyone to tell HIM he's a sissy.

:7

[AspenRose]

73. ROFL

I want to like the guy....he just.....scares me to death!!! :scared: :P

[LeftyMom]

31. I used to work in a toy store

Visitors would ask how to get to the girls' section (it bothers me there even is such a thing, let alone that all the sports stuff, etc is in boys) and my directions were usually something like "head down that aisle and stop when everything is pink."

Don't even get me started about the goddamn Bratz dolls. I don't miss that place.

The funny thing is, baby- preschool toys are largely unisex. It's only when they start school that they get socialized to sort everything by gender.

[MuseRider]

7. Have you ever tried to tell a guy

you like his pink shirt? God, you get all kinds of stuff but my favorite is, "It is CRANBERRY!"

Thanks KB, I am bookmarking for later reading.

I hate to admit it but I do like pink but that has come with age. I spent most of my life running from the color because I hated being stereotyped with it, even as a kid. It was as bad as having to wear a dress on campus when there was a foot of snow on the ground and the wind chill was 30 below. All because you have to follow the "girl" stereotype. Blech.

[treestar]

8. Don Johnson got away with it

Anyone old enough to remember the 80s, with his white suits and his pink shirts on Miami Vice.

Men can wear pink if they are masculine enough, I guess!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

59. The greatest pro wrestler of all time wore pink

"The Hitman" Bret Hart!!!!



Good enough for me........

[kdmorris]

9. From the second (admittedly FoxNews), but still

"I learned that feminists there believe if a baby girl had a choice, she'd pick blue. She'd also become an oil driller, one who wears flannel and digs K.D. Lang.

See, I've never heard that before. I always thought that feminists figured girls would have a choice on their favorite color, not have blue or pink forced on them. My favorite color is usually green, but there's this particular shade of blue that just beautiful, too.

My husband likes Fuschia, although that's not his favorite color. I like it too, but I've decided not to get it anymore due to the stupid message it sends to the rest of the country, basically validating the "girly girl" mentality.

These are all crap. Girls don't prefer pink just because they are evolutionarily suited to it. It's because, from the time they are infants, their clothes, toys, bedroom furniture, and decorations are pink. My youngest daughter now refuses to have anything to do with it. Her room is painted red and she buy normal color clothes, even if they do tend to be pretty drab (brown, grey, black and white, with some blue stuff thrown in).

If girls were left to their own devices and we just didn't push it on them, I think there would be a wide spectrum of colors that they each preferred. Some of them would prefer pink, others blue, others purple, others green, and so on. My father allowed all three of his daughters the choice and didn't push pink on us. Unfortunately, he still refused to let my brother wear pink, but the man was raised in the 50's. What can you expect?

[Katherine Brengle]

15. The Fox News piece was the worst I think -- that guy really really loved having his

ass-backwards views on everything validated.

[kdmorris]

23. Yeah, he seemed to be gloating.

It was a really... ugly read. But then again, the scary part is, there are actual human beings out there that believe that crap and take it all in.

My father isn't perfect. He has old-fashioned views on a lot of stuff, but I have to say... He tried!

He taught me how to change my own oil in a car, change the tires, how to work under the hood. I rebuilt a carburetor when I was 16. When I put it all back together, there were springs and bolts left over. He then explained the importance of knowing where you got all the pieces and bought me another carburetor. He taught me how to mow the lawn and build a fence and fight boys who were bigger than me (basic goal was to disable and run like hell).

He also showed me how to wear makeup and bought me pretty dresses and my first pair of high heels. He helped me paint my bedroom yellow and showed me how to play computer games(mostly boys played computer games back then). He allowed me to cut my hair short (it looked awful!!) and wear short skirts in high school, but he always talked to us about it and tried to allow us to choose to fit in while not giving up who we were.

He taught me to say cuss words, but then told me it wasn't lady-like to say them in public. He told me that girls couldn't be astronauts, but encouraged me to write novels and be a veterinarian (neither of which I'm doing right now). I think he didn't want me to have to go through the experience of becoming an astronaut, effectively shielding me from the rampant sexism in that program. He was controlling with my mother, but told his three daughters we could be anything we wanted to be (except an astronaut). He encouraged my older sister to take auto mechanics in high school. But he wouldn't let my brother wear pink.

[Demeter]

10. I spent my childhood in a pink room

I HATE PINK.

Pink is for rare roast beef, hamburgers, and steak. And nothing else.

I'm reminded of that quote from the film version of Sound of Music, when Max the impressario meets the countess on the balcony with the von Trapp children, and is handed a glass of lemonade, instead of the highball he was expecting, and the Countess says:

"Not too sweet, not too tart..."

and Max replies: "Just too pink!"

[baby_mouse]

11. Certainly it doesn't seem to be a terribly well-thought through study...

What sort of controls could you set up for such an experiment? None that I can think of.

And the evolutionary stuff holds no water at all, even if you assume that the "savanna" blue-sky conditions favouring the colour blue got wired into men, obviously they should be wired into women as well. And why wouldn't men prefer pink, healthy faces in women?

I think these researchers have spent a lot of time demonstrating the existence of a well-known cultural accident and extrapolated an entirely meaningless conclusion from it.

So there you are, Katherine. I agree with you about something.

:-)

[Katherine Brengle]

16. lol

Indeed.

[aikoaiko]

13. unfortunately, I can't access this article from home.

I sometimes cringe when I see media report on science (at least the science I know about) because they almost get it wrong in some way.

You're right that evolutionary explanations often suffer from being 'panglossian', 'just so', or circular. On the other hand evolutionary science have a lot to offer the social sciences in helping explain behavioral patterns among people and sometimes even sex or gender differences. In order to 'verify' they conclusions, they need to do more studies where it would be possible to see a different result.

I don't mind them speculating about evolutionary explanations without social/culture explanations since social and cultural researcher rarely consider biological or evolutionary explanations. The good news is that both perspectives are being talked about more by the same people in the same studies.

[Berry Cool]

17. This has to be one of the dumbest studies ever.

It's amazing that people calling themselves scientists are even conducting an experiment in this manner.

What did they think they were going to find out by testing adults whose color "preferences" have been pounded into them since birth?

And yet the knotheads of "evolutionary psychology" have come up with some bonehead explanation having to do with children's fevers, berries and fresh water. Sheesh...

Congratulations, idiots. You just confirmed that from the time we are born, we are taught that pink is for girls and blue is for boys, and if you are a boy you better the hell not prefer pink to blue.

I suggest your next study be to determine whether or not children like ice cream sundaes. And when you discover, to your surprise, that they do, be sure to tell us all that evolutionary psychology theorizes that their love of ice cream may have something to do with the fact that it contains milk, and that this and the round shape of the scoop of ice cream combined with a red maraschino cherry on top reminds them of a mother's breast. Glory be!!!!!!!

[alfredo]

18. I do believe there are differences between the sexes, but we are

more alike than different. What differences we have have been selected to enhance our ability to survive. Color preferences could be one of them. They have found sexual differences in the sense of smell. It makes sense if you believe creatures evolve traits that enhance their ability to survive, but that doesn't mean that particular study is correct. Survival often means occupying a niche in the environment and with social creatures, the social structure.

Sometimes ideology has to bow to reality. Does that study express reality? The scientific community will challenge it and the truth will win out eventually.

[madmom]

19. not so long ago I read a article(can't remember where) that said

back in the warrior years of merry old england red and pink where manly colors. Mainly because they dyed their own clothes and red of course being the color of blood and war was used for men and after you dyed so many tunics the dye got kinda weak so they came out pink which was ok because the connotation was still there. They also said blue was for females but I don't remember why.:shrug:

[FormerOstrich]

20. How is it that allegedly intelligent people

could believe such an experiment actually meant something???

but speaking of colors....

as I was growing up I was always wondered if everyone actually saw the same colors as everyone else. You were shown an object and told what color it was. Your friend was shown the same object and told what color it was. But did we really know that we both saw the same thing? I thought it entirely possible that the color I saw might very well be different than the color the next person saw. So I'd always try to imagine what a view would look like substituting one color for another because that might be how someone else saw it.

Now you know....I've actually been sortof nutso all my life...it's not just a recent thing.

[kdmorris]

24. WHOA!!!

I used to think the same thing. How do we KNOW that your "green" and my "green" are the same color. How do we know that we really perceive the same color?

Except for my husband, I didn't think there was anyone as weird as I am in the whole world!

[FormerOstrich]

52. kdmorris.....here I am....

I don't think weird is the correct word (even though many of our, or at least my acquaintance might think it is). I just seem to have an ever increasing awareness that I simply just don't seem to think or process things in the same way as most other people.

So I'm curious. You immediately understood what I said and have shared the same thoughts. Did you think about the color thing when you were a kid (I did)? Did you ever try asking teachers/parents/friends/others about it. I did. For the most part, I couldn't seem to ever get people to understand or try to comprehend what I was asking (I'd get one of "those" looks). For that matter, it wasn't even all that long ago I was trying to tell someone about it and they just flatly couldn't figure out what I was saying. I never really why it seemed like such a tough concept/question.

Great to meet you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:toast:

[kdmorris]

62. hehe Yeah, I brought it up to others

And all I got was a kind of blank stare. One person said "Green is green. Are you saying it's a different color?" I was the kind of kid that gave everyone fits. I always asked "those" questions. I've always wondered things that no one could seem to answer.

My father said he knew my religious training was "going to hell" when I was six and came home from Sunday School and asked: "If Cain and Abel and Adam and Eve were the only people on Earth. And Cain killed Abel and then ran off and married "the daughters of man", who did he marry? Did he marry his mother?" The whole Bible thing didn't really seem logical to me, although I tried SO hard to be a "good" Christian.

Until I met my husband, most people considered me weird. I read a lot of books and spent most of my time in the library. I was always questioning things. For example, we all see things upside down, but since we've spent our whole life seeing things upside down, we are used to it. But...What would life have been like if we saw it all correctly and it was upside down.

What would your living room look like if all the furniture was on the ceiling and we walked upside down. How would you avoid the fan in the middle of the room. If things were like that from the time we were babies, would we even notice the fan upside down in the middle of our living room.

And on and on.. see, weird questions that have no answers and usually make people look at you like "WHAT? Who cares?"

My husband and I are best friends, as well as spouses. HE got it the first time I asked and said "You know, I've always wondered the same thing!" I think I just stared at him with my mouth open.

Great to meet you to. I just NEVER thought anyone else thought about things like that except for he and I.

:toast:

[Lorien]

56. I've noticed this too. Just yesterday my neighbor kept asking me

who the brown and white cat belonged to that was always sitting in his driveway. I told him that I owned the only brown and white cat on our block (middle of my sig line). All the other cats were orange, black, or orange and white. I asked him if he meant Casey, an old orange and white domestic short hair. "No, it is most definitely not orange. It's brown and white" he answered.

Later that evening Casey walked up to us. "That's the brown and white cat I was asking you about"! said my neighbor. The cat was colored almost exactly like this one:

[momster]

22. Before WWI

or so I have read, the color preferences were the other way around. Pink was for boys and blue was for girls which is why Alice in Wonderland was depicted in a blue dress. For more, try http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=238733

I wonder how that would have affected this study...if it weren't so well known that pink is for girls. The fact that it hasn't always been that way invalidates this and turns it into nonsense.

[atommom]

25. It's a poorly designed study, did NOT prove that "women prefer pink"

(as both genders actually preferred blue), and didn't deserve to be funded in the first place, let alone given this kind of media attention. Anyone else notice an awful lot of "studies" like this lately? The one about men not being able to find their way around in farmers' markets (which supposedly leads to the logical conclusion that they're better at reading maps) comes to mind. I don't know why some people are so determined to reinforce silly gender stereotypes like that.

Full disclosure: my husband owns several pink shirts, and a pink tie. I don't have any pink clothes.

[Clark2008]

26. I HATE pink.

I don't even want my little girl to wear it.

It's an ugly color.

I like green.

So, what does that say about my genes? :)

[Buzz Clik]

28. We can be born with sexual preferences, but gender-related preferences are forced upon us? ca-ca

Girls and boys emerge from the womb with consistent, radical differences. No question, there is great variability within each gender, but the mean behaviors are clearly different.

If you let your children seek their own levels and blaze their own trails, they become interesting and wonderful people. We give them guidance to help them with decisions and correct unacceptable behavior; but, left to their own devices, they naturally gravitate to gender differences. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Do girls prefer pink and boys prefer blue? Mine did, but that is not necessarily universal. But, if the study was performed carefully and scientifically without bias, why not? I recognize the differences between male and female and embrace them.

[mudesi]

41. It's not impossible

I don't know where they got the conclusions for this study from, though. From what I see, the only thing they can conclude is that girls like pink and boys like blue. They don't really know the reasons why, at least not from this study.

But it's not impossible that these things might be genetically predetermined. In fact, it's quite probable. From just observing my little nephew and niece grow up I noticed certain things. The question is, did they pick their preferences up from television or upbringing, or is there a genetic component to it?

There might be.

One interesting observation is the fact that in general, little boys are mischievous and "bad", while little girls behave in school and are "good". It might have something to do with testosterone or estrogen, but I'm no expert on that.

[Katherine Brengle]

43. Nature v. nurture

Since it's impossible for us to remove nurture from the equation, we'll never be able to prove any of this to a reasonable degree.

I think that almost everything is learned behavior personally.

[mudesi]

46. Your bias makes you err

There are plenty of behaviors that have all but been proved to have a genetic component. Sexual orientation, for example. Autism. Depression.

You could be right, but you can't dismiss genetic predisposition when discussing human behavior, including gender specific behavior.

[Katherine Brengle]

42. I don't think it's possible to say that.

Unless a study is done where babies are raised to adulthood in the woods with no cultural influences whatsoever and show these "gender differences" other than the obvious external and internal physical differences, I'll err on the side of it all being bunk.

[madrchsod]

29. what about the king of cool?

[immoderate]

47. Pink was very much in style for men in the 50s.

Charcoal gray suits, pink shirts, or pink in ties was a rage then. It was also reflected in the cars. many of them two-tone.

Another thing that comes to mind was that during my boomer childhood I was told which colors go together and which ones do not. It seemed curious to me that the trees didn't clash with the sky, though I'd been told that blue didn't go with green. And I noticed that anything seemed OK with jeans (when we found out you could go to a party in jeans.) An art teach tipped us off that it's a learned response.

--IMM

[jumpoffdaplanet]

30. The gender specfic colors of blue/pink changed after WWII

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=238733

It's an interesting read about this subject.

[kskiska]

32. Pink = Girls; Blue = Boys wasn't always the case

(snip)

One of the most common examples of color symbolism in clothing is the custom of using pink for girls and blue for boys ... but it wasn’t always this way. This tradition emerged at the turn of the 20th century. Since pink was thought to be a stronger color, it was best suited for boys; blue was more delicate and dainty and best for girls. In 1921, the Women's Institute for Domestic Science in Pennsylvania endorsed pink for boys, blue for girls.

Source:Berlin and Kay, When Blue Meant Yellow,.pp. 20 -21)

Even more interesting is the fact that pink is the color for baby boys and blue is the color for baby girls in Belgium today.

Another interesting fact about pink is that pink is a very masculine color in Bermuda. Also, British bankers and barristers have worn pink shirts for decades. Pink goes in and out of fashion in other parts of the world.

http://www.colormatters.com/kids/wear.html

[KiraBS]

33. I love pink now, didn't like it for years...

My cousin from the start brought up her little girl by refusing to put her in pink or any pastle colours.
She didn't put her in dresses either. Yet as soon as this little girl could walk and talk all she wanted was pink or purple clothes. She wanted to wear girly dresses.
I think so children are naturally girly if that is in their character and even if you try and bring up your child to be a tomboy, to be happy in jeans and t-shirts, if your child fights against it because is a girly, girl that dreams of fairies and princess don't fight them. There is nothing to say she won't be highly successful or be sporty and refuse pink by the time she is ten.
My best friend in school was the most girlie, frilly girl that I knew now she is an Editor of three magazines.
Personally I grew up prefering blue, grey, green and purple I wasn't in to Barbie dolls and I loved soccer, now I wear pink because it suits me and love it.

BTW: Pink shirts look great on men with dark skin.

[Greylyn58]

34. Well, I don't know about this Junk Science,

but speaking for myself as a female of the species, my favorite color is PURPLE.

:evilgrin:

[opihimoimoi]

35. PINK was IN 50 years ago......don't bring it backkkkkk....plzzzzz

[JerseygirlCT]

55. I love pink. My favorite. It makes me feel happy and calm

Blue's nice, too -- especially greenish blues.

But I really dislike orange.

Pink is good.

[AngryAmish]

38. I do think our genes control more of our behavior than we like to believe

But crap like this just infuriates me.

We are social animals. Fashion (trend following etc.) is a way setting our social hierarchy. The fashion of liking pink has nothing to do with its color per se.

[cgrindley]

44. So... you're going to give the Right Wing nutjobs a pass whenever they

don't like science because it conflicts with some of their politics?

[Madspirit]

51. Since When Does One Study Make "Science"?

...and how is not considering the social aspects and cultural pressures NOT science...but hey, if you want to equate this with evolution and other PROVABLE sciences...go for it. You are EVER the Good Conservative.

Why don't you now tell us how the 60s and 70s were irrelevant? That is one of my favorite of your rants...

Lee

[cgrindley]

53. Come on

It's in a refereed journal. It has passed scientific muster. It made it through peer review.

[Katherine Brengle]

58. So you're saying that all science is truth then, and in no way influenced

by what society wants to believe?

Mmmmkay.

[cgrindley]

61. Yeah, pretty much, at least until another peer reviewed article

comes along and refutes it.

[Katherine Brengle]

66. Basic common sense and an understanding of history refutes it. nt

[cgrindley]

70. Oh no it doesn't

Basic common sense = crap.

Basic common sense tells us that God hid those dinosaur bones in the hills and that the sun goes around the earth.

Science is always the best way forward to determining the truth of a situation, even when you don't like what it has to say.

[cyborg_jim]

63. Science is truth - when done properly

Like the previous guy said one study does not a sound theory make.

The reasons given for plausible evolutionary reasons for colour biases seem spurious to me. Typical male/female brain dynamics is something that has been studied and has some weight behind it - but for serious cognitive tasks such as language and spatial awareness, not choosing which colours one prefers.

[Madspirit]

65. Exactly...

Yeah...really BIG science...studying "pink".

I'm not a guy, unless you're just using the term generically, in which case just pretend I didn't say that. : > ...but yes, you are exactly right.

"Spurious" good choice of words...

Lee

[Katherine Brengle]

57. How did you arrive at that conclusion?

This is genuine crap science - taking an observation and assuming that it has an evolutionary component without studying the social causes OR the changing nature of the observation over time.

How is what you said related to that?

[cgrindley]

64. I think I'll take the fact that it passed peer review

over anything you could possibly say.

[Katherine Brengle]

67. That's fine, just remember that just because something passes as science, doesn't

mean it's correct.

[cgrindley]

69. True, but a refereed science journal carries more credibility than an internet

political forum.

[Jade Fox]

45. Tell it to this guy!

[Madspirit]

48. I Am Not a DAP

I am not a "DAP"...Dyke Against Pink. My three favorite colors are pink, blue and green. These have been my favorite colors since I was little and they are still my favorite colors at 53. The order of preference has changed at different times but those three still are my top three.

Pink...sunsets and sunrises would suck much without it and it looks great with gray.
Blue...the sky would suck much without it.
Green...nature would such much without it.

Studies like this are stoooooooopid. They are meaningless and you have to wonder the cost and the waste of mindpower...

...and guys look great in pink, just btw...

Lee the Lesbian Who is Not a DAP.

[OzarkDem]

49. And its a woman's fault if she gets breast cancer

In spite of scientific evidence to the contrary, those of us who got breast cancer are always being told its because:

1. we didn't get a mammogram (mammograms don't prevent or cure breast cancer)

2. we didn't eat the right fruits and veg (no scientific evidence to back that one up either, despite millions spent)

3. we were overweight or ate too much fat (research concludes neither)

4. we didn't get enough exercise (ditto)



Funny thing, with the exception of smoking and lung cancer, you never hear these kinds of accusations made against men who get cancer....

Yes, breast cancer IS a women's issue.

[Dystopian]

60. The only pink I like is code.

peace~

[WildEyedLiberal]

68. "Evolutionary pyschology" is has nothing to do with evolution or psychology

It doesn't even follow the scientific method - it presupposes a conclusion and then gathers only the "data" which supports that conclusion. It's just a masturbatory exercise in confirmation bias. There is about as much real science contained in "evolutionary psychology" as there was in phrenology and eugenics - both of which, I should add, were "peer supported" back in their days, too. :eyes:

I never gravitated towards pink - perhaps because my parents didn't try to force pink clothes and toys and bedding on me every day of my life? Just a thought.

[uppityperson]

71. Toddlers universally mostly like pink. It is the first color they all see, inside.

Light coming through the woman's abdominal wall is pink. Most all toddlers like pink, prefer it as their favorite color. Then society steps in and thing change, with boys going for blue because that is the alternative usually offered. Ask a toddler or young child what their favorite color is. Pink, followed by purple, regardless of sex.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

72. The Boss Likes Pink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq8qPRnwmyw

If it's good enough for The Boss it's good enough for me...