Tim Robbins tells Stephen Hayes to apologize to America for linking al-Qaeda and Iraq

[Quixote1818]

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/08/25/tim-robbins-tells-stephen-hayes-to-apologize-to-america-for-linking-al-qaeda-and-iraq/

Robbins: You’re partly responsible, you could start with an apology. You wrote a book saying there was a connection Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

Hayes: You want to know why I wrote that book? Because there was a connection Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda.

Maher: No there wasn’t.

Robbins: You can lie a thousand times—it doesn’t make it true.

[sarcasmo]

1. I watched that and thought that was a great line from Tim Robbins.

"You can lie a thousand times-it doesn't make it true"

[Quixote1818]

2. Hays doesn't seem to understand the difference between "collaborative operational relationship" and

relationship. A relationship could mean anything such as my relationship with the gas station attendant but such a relationship certainly doesn't mean we "collaborated" to do something wrong. Those ass holes love to create as much smoke as possible even when it's clear they are outright lying!

[TahitiNut]

5. A far, far greater relationship between the U.S. and Al Qaeda existed and exists ...

... in virtually EVERY respect than between Iraq and Al Qaeda. At least initially, our government funded and trained them. We even HOSTED them, initially with legal visas, for months and years in our country. There's nothing to indicate the government of Iraq ever did so. They use items with "Made in the USA" on them. I doubt there's much that even has the label "Made in Iraq" of use to Al Qaeda. There's a hostile 'relationship,' since the Russians left Afghanistan and increated on 9/11. Al Qaeda detested the Baath government of Sadaam Hussein ... probably more than that of Cheney/Bush.

Currently, the "stature" of each (the USA and Al Qaeda) has been enormously affected by the extreme opposition of each toward the other, creating a co-dependent relationship of the most perverse kind.

[Junkdrawer]

11. "Creating Terror" by Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed...

ftp://www.radio4all.net/pub/files/[e-mail]/2704-1-20070720-creating_terror_part1edited.mp3

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1609420

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. True. Because George Bush has a relationship with bin Laden.

His entire administration has been defined by him.

[pretzel4gore]

3. but this jackass nearly gets away with it...

the mess we're in should be put squarely on the heads of all the novaks/friedmans/woodwards/kristols and the plague of locust others that make up the rightwing infestation of the human mind and intellect....it's a disaster of unimaginable magnitude-we murdered millions of Vietnamese in 10 year 'war' yet lil bush can evoke Vietnam to promote his mindless Iraq ripoff!. hayes needs a good kick in the arse, the lying bastard. For every time Tim Robbins stops the liar, he skates free a thousand times!

"Lying is an accursed vice. It is only our words which bind us together and make us human. If we realized the horror and weight of lying, we would see that it is more worthy of the stake than other crimes...Once let the tongue acquire the habit of lying and it is astonishing how impossible it is to make it give it up" - Montaigne

noted on pg 71 of Gore Vidal's 'Dreaming War, blood for oil...etc'

[Lindsey]

4. Tim Robbins was excellent. I love the way he and Sean Penn say

exactly what they think with out feeling the need to be pc or censor themselves. I love it when they're on Real Time.

[Peace Patriot]

6. Montaigne is so 'old Europe.'

:sarcasm:

Imagine being against lying!

:evilgrin:

[Hieronymus]

7. Is this Bill Maher show on HBO?

[Lasher]

8. Yes.

It's on Fridays at 11 PM eastern time.

http://www.hbo.com/billmaher/

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

9. I've been watching Real Time since its inception and my guess is that Tim Robbins

might be one of the only guests who would know who Hayes is and what Hayes has done. Although Hayes spread the propaganda about Saddam and 9/11, WMDs, Salman Park, and Santorum's favorite, the WMDS were moved from Iraq and buried in Syria, most people don't have a clue who that lying twerp is.

Robbins reamed him on the heels of Jon Stewart nailing Hayes' ass to the wall the week before last.

Well done Tim!
:applaud:

[deutsey]

12. Not surprising about Hayes. There are still fascists who long for the good ol' days

of Pinochet, and Mussolini, and Hitler.

They will never admit the truth.