Help me list reasons we should not try to Impeach bush

[The Straight Story]

- not enough time
- we got better things to do
- would be a distraction from other things
- might make dems look bad
- his crimes are not that big of a deal, we need to nail pot smokers instead
- it would not work, so would be a waste of time. No reason to try if we can't win right?
- He will be out of office before we get it done, and we have a war to fund
- People will see us as being petty, and we want to impress people first and foremost
- His lies only killed a few hundred thousand people, and only less than 4000 Americans. What's the issue?
- You elected us to stop the war, we ain't got time for anything else right now.

I know there are more reasons we have heard, just trying to get them all in one place.

[datadiva]

1. Let's see

Oh wait, hold on, I'll think of one.

[Jim Sagle]

2. If we did, he'd have to kill us.

[krispos42]

3. Jupitor is visible in the night sky

There's a lunar eclipse this week
Minnesota State Fair just started
Magic 8-ball says "Outlook not so good"
Need some tough-actin' Tinactin
Reniessance Festival's going on
There's a sale at Penny's!!!

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

4. The sun will eventually consume Earth anyway. nt.

[ebayfool]

5. Ummmmm ...

gimme a minute here - that's asking an awful lot!




Nope.
I got nuthin' ... total blank on that one.

Now the meaning of life, that might pop a few easier-to-think-of replies?

[radfringe]

6. citizen's excuse vs elected official excuse

Citizen Excuse:

I don't SUPPORT impeachment because we don't have the VOTES

Elected Official Excuse:

I won't VOTE for impeachment because we don't have the SUPPORT

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other excuses:

-- Impeachment? What does that have to do with the price increase of tea in China due to product recall?

-- ban Smoking because prohibition worked so well

-- eat Carrots not Caribou

-- Impeachment would distract from discussions about Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, Lindsey Lohan and other more important news stories

-- the sky is falling and I don't have an umbrella

-- If we impeach bush/cheney - they will follow us home :scared:

[orleans]

7. ouija board says "no" n/t

[BulletproofLandshark]

8. Well, we DO have all that powder we need to keep dry.

Dry powder is WAY more important than saving the constitution!!!

[jgraz]

9. Don't forget my fav: "It sucks all the oxygen out of a room"

And they should know about sucking...

[radfringe]

10. yup - how else are you going to keep the powder dry?

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Not enough votes in the Senate to impeach him, let alone convict.

Dems have a bare majority. Even with '08 elections coming up, republicans will follow * into Hell first before they vote for impeachment, even at their own peril.

[Skidmore]

12. You forgot the great unspoken reason...

because candidates will lose the contributions of Big Bidness and their lobbyists.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

29. that, my friend, is how the nail looks, after an accurate hammer beating.

Exactly. If we forget to follow the money, we risk being disappointed, hurt, disillusioned, and depressed. You know. Feeling like democrats. Get used to it . . . UNLESS WE FOLLOW THE MONEY.

That is why Edwards and Obama scare Rove far more than Hillary.

[mmonk]

13. Wrong word.

Excuses is the correct terminology.

[KharmaTrain]

14. And The Purpose Of This Is???

Is this the DU equivelent of holding one's breath and turning purple and some how this will make that magical impeachment happen and the world will be one beautiful, harmonious place.

Let's try this question in some real world terms. To get impeachment, you need a majority in the Senate to convict...how do you propose getting the 68 votes to make this happen? Got a plan on how this happens? I'm all ears.

[mmonk]

18. Exposure.

Some of us refuse to capitulate and allow this sh*t to continue.

[KharmaTrain]

Where's The Exposure?

Other than ranting and ridiculing on a message board...what positive steps have been taken to move impeachment along?

How is the harassing of Democrats going? Is this the exposure you're hoping for?

Again...tell me how you get the 68 votes to convict...are we any closer today than yesterday? If so, let's get this show rolling.

[mmonk]

36. Complicity with this administration

is going to permanently damage the democratic party, mark my words. The truth will not be held back in perpetuity.

[KharmaTrain]

44. The Question Please...

The 68 votes (67 plus one for good measure)...how close are we to having that as a reality? And whose being complicit here? Where were the protests around Arlen Specter or Susan Collins or a Jim Imhoffe? How about just 60 votes to break a fillibuster to get an up or down vote on fuding this illegal war for profit or starting to withdraw troops...things that can and should be done now. How does picketing Nancy Pelosi or going after other Democrats advance this goal?

Yes...the truth is there to be had and investigations have just begun to scratch the surface on the criminality. What's holding it back? Look across the aisle and there's your answer.

Sorry...the guilt trip doesn't work...not when the votes to convict aren't there. How does harassing Democratic Congresspeople affect change in the Senate?

Again...I'm looking for answers, not blame games here. WE both want impeachment. I also want a complete investigation into the crimes of this regime and all those, not just one or two figureheads, held accountable. The way for that to happen is to get the seats in the Senate to make a conviction possible and an Executive that will help expedite this matter...and allow the investigations to bring forth charges. Yes...a real impeachment with a real conviction. Nothing less.

Now again...how do you propose to get the 68 votes to convict?

[mmonk]

45. As someone who is working on the Sibel case,

the rathole is deep.

[Solly Mack]

15. Would put a damper on all that pretending

Pretending that war crimes are "mistakes" and "policy failures" - and that everything happening in America under a war criminal wanna-be tyrant is a 'normal' part of democracy, and not a reflection of a system of government that is broken because of massive corruption.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. YOU FORGOT THE POWDER! Got to keep our powder dry.

if the powder is not dry, it will be wet. If it gets wet, then the GOP and the WHite House can tell us what to do in congress, even if we have a majority. Imagine if our powder was wet and the WH tried to exapnd domestic surveillance without warrants? Just IMAGINE. IF our powder was wet, we could not have stopped that unspeakable attack on constitutional rights and privacy. Instead, by keeping our powder dry, we stopped them on FISA.

Gotta remember the powder.

[Skidmore]

17. The only powder they've been keeping dry is

talcum powder.

[Benhurst]

47. Yeah. Keep the powder dry! After all, we're Powder Puff Democrats.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

48. and what about the powder? or was that poland?

Can't forget either one.

[Perry Logan]

19. Every second he spends in office further destroys the Republican Party

[Perry Logan]

20. Impeachment would cause Democrats to lose millions of votes.

[Perry Logan]

21. There are a hell of a lot of more important things to do.

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[Perry Logan]

23. Which part of "they don't have the votes" don't you understand?

[Perry Logan]

24. Hey--it's too LATE!

[Perry Logan]

25. Too much fun waiting for the next Administration screw-up.

[Perry Logan]

26. Losing the battle would be a big feather in the Repubs' hat.

[Perry Logan]

27. Makes Democrats seem partisan.

[mmonk]

28. Quite an impressive list you are working on.

[Perry Logan]

32. Amazing how many good answers there are to this question, isn't it?

[mmonk]

38. Excuses.

And you ought to consolidate them unless you are trying to jump the post count.

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[Perry Logan]

31. The Democrats in Congress undoubtedly know more than the DU folks know.

[Perry Logan]

33. Takes valuable time away form investigations, subpoenas, cleaning up Republican mess, etc.

[Perry Logan]

34. Too much important legislation to write.

[Jim Sagle]

49. Too much chickenshit bullshit to shovel.

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[mmonk]

39. .

:rofl:

Keep it going Perry.

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[Perry Logan]

41. Pro-impeachment folks use Republican talking points constantly.

[Perry Logan]

42. Without impeachment, we can focus on the criminal charges. Why impeach them when we can hang them?

[Perry Logan]

43. Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

I just threw that in.

[mmonk]

46. Good one.

[porphyrian]

50. I can't think of a single good reason. - n/t